Skyrim Mafia Endgame: Hail Sithis! (3/18) Skyrim Wins!

[kageryuu]

Vote Count 5

Clever: 2 (new guy)
jak: 4 (cowboyz, pancake, jonty, /)
new guy: 1 (dazza)
kager: 1 (nagerous)
cowboyz: 1 (jak)
jonty: 1 (clever)
/ : 1 (Xenhu)
LSU Tiger Josh: 1 (edocsil)
Not Voting: 7 (Leehar, IB, LSU, sound, CMS, kager, ghost)


With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline midnight May 15th going on 16th, barring an extension.

I count 19 votes here, if its not a mistake, then we have a double voter

Vote Kager. He's posted nothing but fluff and has been missing for a while.

It is true I have not posted in 4 days but I have been keeping up with the thread

o.O
Pretty badly caught out there Edoc
Vote edoc for trying to lynch someone using bad evidence

I will agree with this, game logs from 4 months back is not good evidence imo Vote Edoc

[nagerous]

I can understand that edocsil's vote was poorly researched but I think his reaction was purely out of frustration as to the increased stagnation of this day one phase. I state this in every game but I think it is time to at least impose a deadline, even if it is a week - to increase the activity and get everyone drawn in under the pressure of the impending deadline.

[edocsil]

I can understand that edocsil's vote was poorly researched but I think his reaction was purely out of frustration as to the increased stagnation of this day one phase. I state this in every game but I think it is time to at least impose a deadline, even if it is a week - to increase the activity and get everyone drawn in under the pressure of the impending deadline.

Even though the last 3 or so games I have been in (with deadlines) have all resulted in d1 or d2 NL. Frustrating to no end.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

I can understand that edocsil's vote was poorly researched but I think his reaction was purely out of frustration as to the increased stagnation of this day one phase. I state this in every game but I think it is time to at least impose a deadline, even if it is a week - to increase the activity and get everyone drawn in under the pressure of the impending deadline.

Even though the last 3 or so games I have been in (with deadlines) have all resulted in d1 or d2 NL. Frustrating to no end.

well i have no lynched regardless but we really arent getting anywhere. i always say a lynch is better than a no lynch. im not one to believe in that flavour out of the night scene that helps move the game along. i mean yes we learn how many killers we have if one uses a knife yada yada yada blah blah blah. but what does that do to move a game along? oh look there is an sk...who is it? night scenes never tell IMO anything that really helps the game till the closing parts of it when it comes to LYLO. so IMHO a no lynch does didly squat. we just get a townie killed and end up exactly where we started before the night. at least with a lynch we have somewhat of a chance.

[everywhere116]

Vote Count 5

Clever: 2 (new guy)
jak: 4 (cowboyz, pancake, jonty, /)
new guy: 1 (dazza)
kager: 1 (nagerous)
cowboyz: 1 (jak)
jonty: 1 (clever)
/ : 1 (Xenhu)
LSU Tiger Josh: 1 (edocsil)
Not Voting: 7 (Leehar, IB, LSU, sound, CMS, kager, ghost)


With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline midnight May 15th going on 16th, barring an extension.

I count 19 votes here, if its not a mistake, then we have a double voter

I fixed it. The names were correct, but I forgot to change the number.

Also, the deadline has been extended to midnight of the 16th going on 17th, but will stay there regardless of whether LSU is replaced or not. I still suggest that you hurry to do whatever you want to do, though.

[pancakemix]

Sticking to my guns. Jak is the best lych candidate in my eyes right now. If we choose another path, I'd prefer ghostly because of his complete switch of opinions on the jak case.

I can't blame edoc for wanting to lynch an inactive on Day 1. Maybe he didn't research thoroughly enough, but as it stands that's a pretty standard play from him.

[jak111]

Sticking to my guns. Jak is the best lych candidate in my eyes right now. If we choose another path, I'd prefer ghostly because of his complete switch of opinions on the jak case.

I can't blame edoc for wanting to lynch an inactive on Day 1. Maybe he didn't research thoroughly enough, but as it stands that's a pretty standard play from him.

You only want me gone for the fact that I started the Day (in all reality it wasn't going anywhere before hand) and that I targeted someone you seem to be sure is so safe. You've never answered my question as to why you are so sure? You keep saying I'm the best candidate, how so? If we play the in my opinion game, then in my opinion you know something the rest of us do not. Why do you want me gone in the day phase when you could simply get rid of me in the night? Hmm? You could try to get rid of me tonight but I doubt you'll find what you seek for. Though if you truly are a town member PCM, I suggest you look at those around us at this moment. Notice how the normally active members are either not contributing or are even just plain inactive. It might only be my observation, but I believe we are tightening a noose around our necks that is not needed while letting them slide away to safety.

I believe you are town PCM, only for the fact of how narrow your mind is in this game, perhaps you're masoned with Chuck, perhaps you're just jumping the gun because you have no other leads, however, us fighting will get us no where tonight. I invite the mafia to kill me tonight for I am of no importance to town, and only to show you how blind you're running.

I am not afraid nor worried for this game, for lately these games are going inactive with no one contributing, however, I'd like you PCM to look at each of the others around us and tell me what you find odd about their game play, if you can tell me this before the deadline I'll be most pleased, however, I'll make a bet with allowing you and helping you to lynch me if you can find this information and decide to continue to pursue me, because I believe you are not focusing on everyone at the moment

[pancakemix]

You only want me gone for the fact that I started the Day (in all reality it wasn't going anywhere before hand) and that I targeted someone you seem to be sure is so safe. You've never answered my question as to why you are so sure? You keep saying I'm the best candidate, how so?

No, it's because you:

- Skimmed, were caught skimming, and would not admit it
- Started a case that was not based on what you skimmed
- Trying to build momentum in a direction that would be easily bandwagoned onto

It's been pointed out numerous times that the cowboyz quip wasn't what you said it was. I'd really rather not start all of that business again, if that's ok...

And the truth is, I'm not 100% positive. I think you're the best lynch candidate. There is a difference. My grounds for your lynch are above, and given the way you debated, I'm not convinced it was a simple slip. And depending on how you flip, it will be informative to the town based on how people reacted to our arguments.

The other truth is I HATE Day 1. So do most of the other players here. I'd love to just get down to it, but not posting will only beget not posting, and without that there'd be no Days 2, 3, 4, etc. So Day 1, we must.

If we play the in my opinion game, then in my opinion you know something the rest of us do not. Why do you want me gone in the day phase when you could simply get rid of me in the night? Hmm? You could try to get rid of me tonight but I doubt you'll find what you seek for. Though if you truly are a town member PCM, I suggest you look at those around us at this moment. Notice how the normally active members are either not contributing or are even just plain inactive. It might only be my observation, but I believe we are tightening a noose around our necks that is not needed while letting them slide away to safety.

And what makes you say I know something? What am I looking for?

Honestly, things seem normal to me. Today of all days especially. Some people have fallen silent in the last few pages, but things are at a lull at the moment. Not a completely fair point there.

I believe you are town PCM, only for the fact of how narrow your mind is in this game, perhaps you're masoned with Chuck, perhaps you're just jumping the gun because you have no other leads, however, us fighting will get us no where tonight. I invite the mafia to kill me tonight for I am of no importance to town, and only to show you how blind you're running.

First "I know something the rest of us don't", then you believe I'm town? You should make up your mind what your opinion is.

Again, I have no interest in going back to that debate. I've stated above why I think you are the best option.

I am not afraid nor worried for this game, for lately these games are going inactive with no one contributing, however, I'd like you PCM to look at each of the others around us and tell me what you find odd about their game play, if you can tell me this before the deadline I'll be most pleased, however, I'll make a bet with allowing you and helping you to lynch me if you can find this information and decide to continue to pursue me, because I believe you are not focusing on everyone at the moment

Fair enough:

XenHu: Hard to meta since it's been so long, but he's clear-minded and logical. No bad vibes from him at this point.
Edoc: Standard Day 1 "End this shit" play from him. Can't say one way or the other on him at this point, leaning town.
LSU: Fairly silent, but that can't be helped I guess.
Kage: Pointed out as inactive, then pops back in and follows the newest wagon. Not exactly stellar.
Leehar: Playing follow-the-leader a bit. Jumped right on edoc after I pointed out LSU's post. I'd like to see more opinion and less "What he said".
Ghostly: Like I said, his flip-flop doesn't sit well with me. He's my second option lynch.
Sound: Just joined, but I'd like to hear more.
Crazy: I know he said he'd probably be inactive, but he needs to speak up more.
Cowboyz: Also needs to speak up more.
Dazza: Also needs to speak up more. (I'll admit, you do have a point here)
New Guy: As I said, what he did was more of a town slip. No further thoughts here. (As I'm making this list, I'm finding I'm repeating myself quite a bit. What makes you say I'm not focused on everything?)
Jonty: I've never known him to say much...
Iron: I haven't got much here, but right now, I'm not getting a scum vibe
/: Pushing oddly at XenHu for whatever reason. What exactly ARE you getting at, /?
Clever: Standard lack of contribution
Nag: Standard play, looked carefully into the new guy thing.

None of those are as compelling as what I've seen from you. My vote stays.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

You only want me gone for the fact that I started the Day (in all reality it wasn't going anywhere before hand) and that I targeted someone you seem to be sure is so safe. You've never answered my question as to why you are so sure? You keep saying I'm the best candidate, how so?

No, it's because you:

- Skimmed, were caught skimming, and would not admit it
- Started a case that was not based on what you skimmed
- Trying to build momentum in a direction that would be easily bandwagoned onto

It's been pointed out numerous times that the cowboyz quip wasn't what you said it was. I'd really rather not start all of that business again, if that's ok...

And the truth is, I'm not 100% positive. I think you're the best lynch candidate. There is a difference. My grounds for your lynch are above, and given the way you debated, I'm not convinced it was a simple slip. And depending on how you flip, it will be informative to the town based on how people reacted to our arguments.

The other truth is I HATE Day 1. So do most of the other players here. I'd love to just get down to it, but not posting will only beget not posting, and without that there'd be no Days 2, 3, 4, etc. So Day 1, we must.

If we play the in my opinion game, then in my opinion you know something the rest of us do not. Why do you want me gone in the day phase when you could simply get rid of me in the night? Hmm? You could try to get rid of me tonight but I doubt you'll find what you seek for. Though if you truly are a town member PCM, I suggest you look at those around us at this moment. Notice how the normally active members are either not contributing or are even just plain inactive. It might only be my observation, but I believe we are tightening a noose around our necks that is not needed while letting them slide away to safety.

And what makes you say I know something? What am I looking for?

Honestly, things seem normal to me. Today of all days especially. Some people have fallen silent in the last few pages, but things are at a lull at the moment. Not a completely fair point there.

I believe you are town PCM, only for the fact of how narrow your mind is in this game, perhaps you're masoned with Chuck, perhaps you're just jumping the gun because you have no other leads, however, us fighting will get us no where tonight. I invite the mafia to kill me tonight for I am of no importance to town, and only to show you how blind you're running.

First "I know something the rest of us don't", then you believe I'm town? You should make up your mind what your opinion is.

Again, I have no interest in going back to that debate. I've stated above why I think you are the best option.

I am not afraid nor worried for this game, for lately these games are going inactive with no one contributing, however, I'd like you PCM to look at each of the others around us and tell me what you find odd about their game play, if you can tell me this before the deadline I'll be most pleased, however, I'll make a bet with allowing you and helping you to lynch me if you can find this information and decide to continue to pursue me, because I believe you are not focusing on everyone at the moment

Fair enough:

XenHu: Hard to meta since it's been so long, but he's clear-minded and logical. No bad vibes from him at this point.
Edoc: Standard Day 1 "End this shit" play from him. Can't say one way or the other on him at this point, leaning town.
LSU: Fairly silent, but that can't be helped I guess.
Kage: Pointed out as inactive, then pops back in and follows the newest wagon. Not exactly stellar.
Leehar: Playing follow-the-leader a bit. Jumped right on edoc after I pointed out LSU's post. I'd like to see more opinion and less "What he said".
Ghostly: Like I said, his flip-flop doesn't sit well with me. He's my second option lynch.
Sound: Just joined, but I'd like to hear more.
Crazy: I know he said he'd probably be inactive, but he needs to speak up more.
Cowboyz: Also needs to speak up more.
Dazza: Also needs to speak up more. (I'll admit, you do have a point here)
New Guy: As I said, what he did was more of a town slip. No further thoughts here. (As I'm making this list, I'm finding I'm repeating myself quite a bit. What makes you say I'm not focused on everything?)
Jonty: I've never known him to say much...
Iron: I haven't got much here, but right now, I'm not getting a scum vibe
/: Pushing oddly at XenHu for whatever reason. What exactly ARE you getting at, /?
Clever: Standard lack of contribution
Nag: Standard play, looked carefully into the new guy thing.

None of those are as compelling as what I've seen from you. My vote stays.

seriously? how many games have you played with me to say standard lack of contribution. if anything in most my games i get deep into it and post more things than most. i just find it hard to get into this game when so much theme play was starting at the begining it dulled the game up but im here and reading none the less.

anyway. i wont say anything on this case till i hear the counter argument.
and the thing pmc made on ghostly switching views is a good point not strong enough for my vote but maybe if jak proves in my eyes not a worth lynch i will add pressure to ghostly.

[/]

@ Pancake, my discussion with Xenhu was a direct result of his case on me, for what I believed was a skipped premise, and a possible link to an unjustified defense against an accusation directed at Iron Bird, I was simply questioning weather he could answer what I viewed as logical inconsistencies.

I agree with some of what you say, however, even disregarding newguy's slip (or whatever) I am finding increasingly unacceptable that he and clever are still on joke votes.
since it seems we are currently unable to pressure jak with time running out, I will switch to newguy, he is active enough to post elsewhere, has been online several times in the last few days, but refuses to respond to why he is joke voting with time running out after three days, or even post for that matter. viewtopic.php?f=213&t=169197&start=315#p3729783
Unvote vote newguy

[new guy1]

@ Pancake, my discussion with Xenhu was a direct result of his case on me, for what I believed was a skipped premise, and a possible link to an unjustified defense against an accusation directed at Iron Bird, I was simply questioning weather he could answer what I viewed as logical inconsistencies.

I agree with some of what you say, however, even disregarding newguy's slip (or whatever) I am finding increasingly unacceptable that he and clever are still on joke votes.
since it seems we are currently unable to pressure jak with time running out, I will switch to newguy, he is active enough to post elsewhere, has been online several times in the last few days, but refuses to respond to why he is joke voting with time running out after three days, or even post for that matter. viewtopic.php?f=213&t=169197&start=315#p3729783
Unvote vote newguy

I believe the only vote I have had on anyone in this game is my jokevote, which, while Im posting this, I will Unvote, since it has no use. I have not input much into this game nor Battle of the bulge which is the only other game I am in very much as I have weekends to attend to and I found I did not have much to add in this game. You may pressure me, Im fine with it. It is one vote being done as a last resort and so I find it funny that you didnt pressure anyone else very much and now you come back to me to claim, which you wanted before anyways. Either way, you have no case and so I have nothing to respond to here.

[/]

@ Pancake, my discussion with Xenhu was a direct result of his case on me, for what I believed was a skipped premise, and a possible link to an unjustified defense against an accusation directed at Iron Bird, I was simply questioning weather he could answer what I viewed as logical inconsistencies.

I agree with some of what you say, however, even disregarding newguy's slip (or whatever) I am finding increasingly unacceptable that he and clever are still on joke votes.
since it seems we are currently unable to pressure jak with time running out, I will switch to newguy, he is active enough to post elsewhere, has been online several times in the last few days, but refuses to respond to why he is joke voting with time running out after three days, or even post for that matter. viewtopic.php?f=213&t=169197&start=315#p3729783
Unvote vote newguy

I believe the only vote I have had on anyone in this game is my jokevote, which, while Im posting this, I will Unvote, since it has no use. I have not input much into this game nor Battle of the bulge which is the only other game I am in very much as I have weekends to attend to and I found I did not have much to add in this game. You may pressure me, Im fine with it. It is one vote being done as a last resort and so I find it funny that you didnt pressure anyone else very much and now you come back to me to claim, which you wanted before anyways. Either way, you have no case and so I have nothing to respond to here.

I wanted you to claim? When was that?
I haven't been pressuring anyone else?
And the fact you have only contributed your joke vote, and haven't been contributing anything else is the point of my case, and you are using that to justify yourself?

[new guy1]

Dont feel like quoting that to make it a pyrimid. I would have to go back, but I believe you are the one that said that you would look for someone else to pressure and if you didnt find anyone you would come back to me. Well you didnt really pressure anyone else that I remember (again its been a long weekend, I would have to go back and look) and you just come back to me with your vote with a "you havent contributed much" which, hate to break it to you, that innactive LSU hasnt done. I just figured if you were going to pressure someone you would come up with more then that.

[/]

This is the problem! What LSU and the real inactives are doing isn't a scum move, actually not being here isn't scummy, they can be replaced. What you are doing is scummy, you are active, you are here every day, reading up and not contributing, you are capable of posting paragraph after paragraph the exact moment you get pressured, but are incapable of giving a damn for any amount of time it would take to actually put out a case.

[new guy1]

Well Im sorry Im not a blessed case maker, therefore you are wrong in the aspect that I can just throw one out there when I see what an average person sees, not all these instigators. Im trying to learn but Im starting to get the idea that you cant just watch someone and learn, you have to find a way to learn yourself. And I guess I should just get off for a few days then since that way I could just say "sorry I was gone let me read up and say Im going to post something later when Im not" since thats not scummy at all, right?

[/]

Well you are mentioning it, you noticed something; so you had something to post, but didn't, if you think these people are being insincere, then say so, it's better that contributing nothing.

[new guy1]

I dont know what you mean by people being insincere, but I thought I gave my take on current cases... that might have been the bulge game though, I dont really remember. As far as I remember I didnt realy take sides on the most recent cases because I wasnt really getting a read on any of it. Thats about all I have to say right now...

[/]

I'm saying if you think the submariners are being insincere when they claim they will reread, you should mention it, just mention whatever you notice, that's helpful too if you are unable to construct a complete case alone, otherwise there is no chance to win, the majority refuse to get anything done and we will go to night having accomplished nothing, apathy only helps mafia, cult, and serial killers.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Well Im sorry Im not a blessed case maker, therefore you are wrong in the aspect that I can just throw one out there when I see what an average person sees, not all these instigators. Im trying to learn but Im starting to get the idea that you cant just watch someone and learn, you have to find a way to learn yourself. And I guess I should just get off for a few days then since that way I could just say "sorry I was gone let me read up and say Im going to post something later when Im not" since thats not scummy at all, right?

im gonna agree here and disagree with / if he is here and active but not saying something why can he not be replaced? your confusing me /. noone can just throw out a case when he has nothing to throw out on. mainly cause, and i find this alot, you want to say something and someone else says it. therefore every case that CAN be made HAS been made. unless everyone is blind. the fact that we have 18 people says that if someone slips then someone will find it. he hasnt been inactive anyway. i didnt post this weekend either. i was busy this weekend as well and this is the first real time i can sit and think. did you post abundently this weekend /? i didnt think so. sometimes we just get on to read and dont have time to say much. if this is your reason behind the vote then i say its a bad one. and if its about his slip in saying he is not a vt. we have discused this as most likely being a town slip than a scum slip

fastposted x3

[/]

Well Im sorry Im not a blessed case maker, therefore you are wrong in the aspect that I can just throw one out there when I see what an average person sees, not all these instigators. Im trying to learn but Im starting to get the idea that you cant just watch someone and learn, you have to find a way to learn yourself. And I guess I should just get off for a few days then since that way I could just say "sorry I was gone let me read up and say Im going to post something later when Im not" since thats not scummy at all, right?

im gonna agree here and disagree with / if he is here and active but not saying something why can he not be replaced? your confusing me /. noone can just throw out a case when he has nothing to throw out on. mainly cause, and i find this alot, you want to say something and someone else says it. therefore every case that CAN be made HAS been made. unless everyone is blind. the fact that we have 18 people says that if someone slips then someone will find it. he hasnt been inactive anyway. i didnt post this weekend either. i was busy this weekend as well and this is the first real time i can sit and think. did you post abundently this weekend /? i didnt think so. sometimes we just get on to read and dont have time to say much. if this is your reason behind the vote then i say its a bad one. and if its about his slip in saying he is not a vt. we have discused this as most likely being a town slip than a scum slip

fastposted x3

It is abundantly essential we each make our intentions clear, I have commented on cases and made points of my own, newguy did not, what is it you think? Do you honestly think not one single point made today is valid enough to pursue? That we are completely unable to find anything new? That we shouldn't even go with a gut feeling so we can get new data for later? Are you in favor of not pressuring anyone at this point, if so, why are we even wasting our time with this day? You should go ahead and vote No Lynch so we at least know that is what you want.

[new guy1]

Actually now I remember saying very vividly that I dont post much on day one because everytime I do I am called out on it for some reason unseen to me till they point it out. BAM! Whole case shot down by a point that was already there.

[soundman]

Three days left till deadline. I'm not willing to go into the night without any info but I don't think Jak or New Guy are scum. After Kager's last post I really think we should pressure him. He's the best in my mind right now.

[edocsil]

Three days left till deadline. I'm not willing to go into the night without any info but I don't think Jak or New Guy are scum. After Kager's last post I really think we should pressure him. He's the best in my mind right now.

3 days, LSU lynch is gaining no traction. Jak I see as possible scum, although the tells are weaker then I would like. Newguy isn't scummy IMO, so that leaves me with Unvote Vote Jak

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Three days left till deadline. I'm not willing to go into the night without any info but I don't think Jak or New Guy are scum. After Kager's last post I really think we should pressure him. He's the best in my mind right now.

3 days, LSU lynch is gaining no traction. Jak I see as possible scum, although the tells are weaker then I would like. Newguy isn't scummy IMO, so that leaves me with Unvote Vote Jak

have to agree. i think what new guy did was just a town slip and just that. i dont know about jak though. unvote vote jak maybe we can finally get somewhere with this day.

[XenHu]

Well, by my count jak is four(?) votes away from the noose. I'm not sure I like where this is going, but I can understand why things are going the way they are. However, with that said, I'm not comfortable voting against him. I realize that if he turns up scum I'm going to have some major explaining to do, but it's a risk I am willing to take. I might not like his style of play, nor do I feel that his side of the whole thing between him and PCM held any water. Still, it just doesn't sit with me...

XenHu: Hard to meta since it's been so long, but he's clear-minded and logical. No bad vibes from him at this point.
Edoc: Standard Day 1 "End this shit" play from him. Can't say one way or the other on him at this point, leaning town.
LSU: Fairly silent, but that can't be helped I guess.
Kage: Pointed out as inactive, then pops back in and follows the newest wagon. Not exactly stellar.
Leehar: Playing follow-the-leader a bit. Jumped right on edoc after I pointed out LSU's post. I'd like to see more opinion and less "What he said".
Ghostly: Like I said, his flip-flop doesn't sit well with me. He's my second option lynch.
Sound: Just joined, but I'd like to hear more.
Crazy: I know he said he'd probably be inactive, but he needs to speak up more.
Cowboyz: Also needs to speak up more.
Dazza: Also needs to speak up more. (I'll admit, you do have a point here)
New Guy: As I said, what he did was more of a town slip. No further thoughts here. (As I'm making this list, I'm finding I'm repeating myself quite a bit. What makes you say I'm not focused on everything?)
Jonty: I've never known him to say much...
Iron: I haven't got much here, but right now, I'm not getting a scum vibe
/: Pushing oddly at XenHu for whatever reason. What exactly ARE you getting at, /?
Clever: Standard lack of contribution
Nag: Standard play, looked carefully into the new guy thing..

I like this list, firstly, because I trust PCM's opinion of the people I don't know. Which is most of you. Secondly, it illustrates a problem I've been having this entire game. A portion of players simply aren't saying anything. Which is always a pain, because you can't really yell scum based on someone not posting, but it definitely does not help, because it limits your options. :/

I just want to make sure that this character assessment does not get lost in the fray, because I have a feeling I will be returning to it in the future.

Actually now I remember saying very vividly that I dont post much on day one because everytime I do I am called out on it for some reason unseen to me till they point it out. BAM! Whole case shot down by a point that was already there.

Ok, I just want to say this before I go any further. This is an excuse, and a pretty lame one at that. Just because you get called out a lot does not give you the free and clear to not post very much. It probably means you are doing something wrong. As was the case in this game, your slip(if we are still calling it that) was pretty bad and yeah, people are going to call you out on it. As I've said before, I've never been a big believer in 'oops I didn't mean to post that', but that's neither here nor there. You made a mistake and people raked you across the coals for it. Deal with it. Don't use it as a crutch.

Three days left till deadline. I'm not willing to go into the night without any info but I don't think Jak or New Guy are scum. After Kager's last post I really think we should pressure him. He's the best in my mind right now.

I don't know if his last post was anything to pressure over. If I remember correctly, his last post was:

Vote Count 5

Clever: 2 (new guy)
jak: 4 (cowboyz, pancake, jonty, /)
new guy: 1 (dazza)
kager: 1 (nagerous)
cowboyz: 1 (jak)
jonty: 1 (clever)
/ : 1 (Xenhu)
LSU Tiger Josh: 1 (edocsil)
Not Voting: 7 (Leehar, IB, LSU, sound, CMS, kager, ghost)


With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline midnight May 15th going on 16th, barring an extension.

I count 19 votes here, if its not a mistake, then we have a double voter

Vote Kager. He's posted nothing but fluff and has been missing for a while.

It is true I have not posted in 4 days but I have been keeping up with the thread

o.O
Pretty badly caught out there Edoc
Vote edoc for trying to lynch someone using bad evidence

I will agree with this, game logs from 4 months back is not good evidence imo Vote Edoc

IMO, he's only doing to Edoc what I just spent the last paragraph talking about. Edoc slipped and he's pressuring him. By your logic soundman, should we also be pressuring Leehar? This isn't meant antagonistically, I'm curious as to what about Kager seems scummy to you.

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