Mass Effect 1 - Thorian (Cult) Wins!

[DoomYoshi]

You probably shouldn't use words you don't understand in an effort to sound intelligent. Also, if I'm the best vote of the day, why didn't you vote me initially?

It's like keeping an ace tucked away. Why play my best card first? I still think Skittz is scum, but nobody else even cares about the case except for one person who agreed and Fircoal (who ignored the case and tried to clear him at the same time).

You think I'm scum because my first post in day 2 was to clear up my last day 1 post? Righto, keep puffing brah. Are you possibly a lyncher cause your idea of what consitutes scum habits is pretty dumb IMO.

If you don't have a guilty conscience, why would that have stuck in your mind? Caff voted me, but I had totally forgotten until I reread a few days ago. Either you are a real narcissist, and held your breath for a week to clear your name, or you are scum. I can't remember cases made against me a few days ago. How are you able to remember cases against you weeks ago?

[HotShot53]

My idea behind jailing CAFF again is simple. Every result from it gives us a massive clue.

If CAFF is jailed and there is still no kill: The slim, slim odds that CAFF is innocent and the kill is being blocked elsewhere, or CAFF is a killer. Unbalanced? Sure, but that's not our problem.
If CAFF is jailed and a kill happens: Then we can almost certainly confirm caff's excuse that he was jailed and the kill was blocked elsewhere.

Either result gives us way more to go on than if benga jailed anyone else.

If benga is the jailkeeper, how he can jail himself? Unless there are two jailkeepers. Were you drunk when you wrote this post?

Uurrrgghhhh. No I wasn't out on the lash, but I was making a dashed post at work and had limited time to proof-read. See Thor, this is what I mean!
Bolded the corrected words above.

You missed the most obvious problem with your scenario... if Caff is scum and knows he's likely to be jailed again, a different scum will put in the kill. So jailing caff again doesn't prove whether or not he was blocked from making a kill or protected from a kill night 1 because either way a kill could still happen night 2.

[Ragian]

That, or scum has a blocking ability to thwart it all.

[benga]

My only argument vs you was no NK and you jailed caff.

Confident and agressive were just mirrors to your nonsense arguments why you would be a good target.
The thing is, I will surely die this night, don't see any other way. People will have to deal with you now or later.
Since you claimed town power role I am willing to switch votes if I get any strong indications of other scum.

Other than you, MM is another target I am willing to pursue.

For now I just see dakky aggrivated about Thor playing dumb for so long.
Even if Thor is such a noob, he is carrying it too far. So Thor is another good target.

[Minister Masket]

You missed the most obvious problem with your scenario... if Caff is scum and knows he's likely to be jailed again, a different scum will put in the kill. So jailing caff again doesn't prove whether or not he was blocked from making a kill or protected from a kill night 1 because either way a kill could still happen night 2.

And what if Caff is the Godfather so the kill has to go through him? I've modded games with that rule before. My point is that the opportunity to jail him again to see how the result differs (or not), outweighs the info gain from jailing anyone else. Doesn't look like benga is going to go down down that route though.

Confident and agressive were just mirrors to your nonsense arguments why you would be a good target.
The thing is, I will surely die this night, don't see any other way. People will have to deal with you now or later.
Since you claimed town power role I am willing to switch votes if I get any strong indications of other scum.

Other than you, MM is another target I am willing to pursue.

Why? I'm not trying to decide your night action. I wanted your thoughts on the idea is all.
And if anything, flagging yourself up as a target for scum can be a good thing you know, it triggers the attention of any potential docs out there.
I would say doing that actually increases the chances of a non NK, as a random scum kill is way more likely to succeed.

[iAmCaffeine]

My only argument vs you was no NK and you jailed caff.

Confident and agressive were just mirrors to your nonsense arguments why you would be a good target.
The thing is, I will surely die this night, don't see any other way. People will have to deal with you now or later.
Since you claimed town power role I am willing to switch votes if I get any strong indications of other scum.

Other than you, MM is another target I am willing to pursue.

For now I just see dakky aggrivated about Thor playing dumb for so long.
Even if Thor is such a noob, he is carrying it too far. So Thor is another good target.

Where are my nonsense arguments? You literally claimed I'm godfather because of my confidence dude. That's a nonsense argument, just like dakky's about us both being mafia and orchestrating this player. It's only in dakky's recent line of questioning of Thorthoth that he's started to look coherent and like he has a brain.

So, caff, whom of those is worthy of a vote? As far as I can gather, it annoys you that we don't scumhunt, but rather go with the information gathered at night. I don't see you sticking your neck out voting for someone you think has played scummily.

vote caff

FYI, I'm voting you because you were jailed and no nk happened.

Are you actually retarded? Don't worry, that's a rhetorical question.

1. You claim I say you don't scumhunt, yet I have never said that.
2. You don't see me voting, yet you posted literally after I unvoted... I have voted twice today.

Like.. I'm struggling to withstand the sheer amount of ignorance and stupidity from your short post. Truly oustanding, bravo.

I unvoted because I feel like there are a few good candidates and I'm unsure as to where my vote will be best placed. There is little point in putting a vote onto someone who nobody else thinks is mafia right now, despite your post making me want to instavote the f*ck outta you. God damn that post was fucking retarded.

Caff voted me

No, I didn't.

Literally people how hard is it to learn to fucking read? I'm almost ready to quit. The only people with some intelligence post once every week (Fircoal, strike) whilst we have fucktards like mitch and Ragian here constantly spouting utterly random bullshit.

[iAmCaffeine]

For the record, I just can't be bothered with stupid people that don't read. They can't all be scum but they sure as hell ruin the game.

[iAmCaffeine]

I'm a tracker btw.

[Ragian]

I think you should branch out on your insults. You have said retarded waaay too many times. Also, you forgot a comma before "dude". I support your rage quitting FYI. Usually scum does that when they're frustrated that they've been caught redhanded.

I'd quite like to see reads from Skoffin, TG and Ragian.

I think you're the scummiest one around right now.

Anyway, let's look at your votes:

I'm gonna go ahead and vote fircoal unless he appears with a good reason as to why he's still lurking about. He's obviously not limited since he responded to DDS and DirtySickSoup has also stated he's still chasing the guy for participation.

Easy target. Someone obviously not about. Not a vote based on a read.

Sure, I was apparently jailed and there was no night kill. There are three potential explanations for this:

• I'm mafia and was leading the kill and got roleblocked
• I'm a town Power Role, was jailed and also the mafia target so therefore saved
• Mafia targeted whoever they decided, but was role blocked by a 3rd party and I was jailed

When you put it this way, it's even worse. So we have 1/3 chance that you are mafia. I don't see a better candidate at this point, really.

You mean 1/3 is worse than the situation you were working on previously which is 1/2? I think you should stop posting. I'm not sure how you're not the primary target for the lynch today.

Unvote Fircoal. Vote dakky21. I hope unvote is the same colour, not sure.

I presume this vote is based on another hissy fit because you don't agree with dakky. Do you actually find him scummy, or are you just annoyed that he was gunning for you? And now you've unvoted.

Aaaanyway, you claim tracker without a result D1. Well, you were jailed... Anyone care to counterclaim? unvote. I'm unvoting to mull over your claim.

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Caff voted me

No, I didn't.

I feel like Ragian forgot he voted.

Vote DoomYoshi.

It was D1, but saying you didn't vote for doom is wrong.

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@DDS, could you reprod skoffin?

[iAmCaffeine]

:lol:

I think you should branch out on your insults. You have said retarded waaay too many times. Also, you forgot a comma before "dude". I support your rage quitting FYI. Usually scum does that when they're frustrated that they've been caught redhanded.

I'm not rage quitting, I'm just bored of stupid people. That's something I've made clear in all aspects of CC. Yeah yeah "scum does that when they're pissed off" - I'm not even being lynched and I'm not scum, I'm just annoyed. Are the kind of player that uses stereotypes and/or meta to determine everything you do in games of mafia? You should go play Fancy Pants on EpicMafia. Seems like your kinda of party.

Also I like the insult. Others I might use would likely get me forum banned again and honestly that's really annoying. A comma also wasn't a requirement in that sentence.

I'd quite like to see reads from Skoffin, TG and Ragian.

I think you're the scummiest one around right now.

Yes, I wanted reads from you three players in particular for different reasons. That wasn't me saying you hadn't been scumhunting, but rather I wanted to know your thoughts.

I'm gonna go ahead and vote fircoal unless he appears with a good reason as to why he's still lurking about. He's obviously not limited since he responded to DDS and DirtySickSoup has also stated he's still chasing the guy for participation.

Easy target. Someone obviously not about. Not a vote based on a read.

It was also obviously not a vote I intended to keep for lynching unless he just never re-appeared. Since Fircoal seemed to be limited in posting on D1 I expected him to be eager to get involved on D2, so his inactivity was odd. It's well known that to get someone quiet to talk, you put a handful of votes on them so they suddenly feel under pressure. It's not a vote to lynch, but a vote to get some speech.

Unvote Fircoal. Vote dakky21. I hope unvote is the same colour, not sure.

I presume this vote is based on another hissy fit because you don't agree with dakky. Do you actually find him scummy, or are you just annoyed that he was gunning for you? And now you've unvoted.

Hissy fit? Is that what you call it when you haven't bothered to read my explanation that can be found in this thread several times? I'll repeat myeslf again. Dakky's almost instant reaction was to suggest benga and I were both mafia and had staged this play to f*ck with town and clear one of us for the game. I explained how that would be ridiculous given how many people are alive, and that the 3rd party/parties are currently unknown. They should be our priority right now regardless.

Aaaanyway, you claim tracker without a result D1. Well, you were jailed... Anyone care to counterclaim? unvote. I'm unvoting to mull over your claim.

No shit I don't have a result. Retard.

It was D1, but saying you didn't vote for doom is wrong.

Oops, my bad. I'd forgotten.

[Ragian]

So dakky thought out loud and we should lynch him because you don't agree with his thoughts. Gotcha.

Also, because you have forgotten your vote, feel free to insult yourself after being tanked up on caffeine. It seems to be floating your boat.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Chill out with the insults. Keep it friendly.

[iAmCaffeine]

So dakky thought out loud and we should lynch him because you don't agree with his thoughts. Gotcha.

Also, because you have forgotten your vote, feel free to insult yourself after being tanked up on caffeine. It seems to be floating your boat.

1. I explained my reasoning for voting him. His arguments were weak and made no sense. Did I try and convince others to vote him? No, not really. In fact, I've said twice in the last 24hrs that his most recent line of questioning against Thorthoth has improved my view of him so far in this game.

Honestly I'm not replying to another post from you until you stop making stupid assumptions, misunderstanding posts, ignoring posts and generally being a retarded cuntfuck.Sad man thinking too much of himself trying to give me shit when you can't fucking read and try to come at me without reading what I've even said? Why are you so keen to get me lynched? You haven't really tried to do anything apart from argue with me. You coasted along with some useless comments, now you go in hard to force the lynch onto me. In doing so you literally ignore things I've said or misinterpret them, in an attempt to make my arguments appear weaker than yours. It's fucking transparent man so sort it out if you want any other retard here to take your side.

[Ragian]

Those two post in succession were brilliant

I never asked you to answer that post.

Anyway, people are more than welcome to form their own opinion. I'm not going to bully anyone into voting for you. I have stated why I voted for you and why I have unvoted. So whenever you get your knickers out of that twist, feel free to move on. I got my claim. The game is moving forward.

[iAmCaffeine]

I just hate having to repeat myself because people either don't listen or don't understand. Most people also know that when I sound pissed off, I'm often not.

[lord voldemort]

Honestly Im not really sure where to move to....like this whole thing with Caff is just frustrating to read. And frankly not enjoyable to play in, hence the majority of us probably staying quiet.

Forcing him to claim was stupid. our jailkeeper came out and claimed and now a tracker has also been forced to claim with literally no information to give.

Moving on. I am still very much on the lynch a lurker. Its never been easier for a scum to lurk their way through these first few days. To me its lynch the dead weight or no lynch and hope for some power role luck

[HotShot53]

I'm a tracker btw.

Unvote, Vote Caffeine

I was wavering if caffeine was scum or not before, based on the arguments that everyone else made.. but this half claim put me on the scum side.
Half-claims are very likely scum... especially in a game where the mod has said he didn't give out fake claims. (I think in a game like this the mod should give out fake claims, but that's not how he did it)

[DoomYoshi]

Tue, Jul 11:

I feel like Ragian forgot he voted.

Vote DoomYoshi.

Not a vote?

I don't understand. If you were a town power role and an investigative one, you would have known that you were blocked (or that something else interfered with your investigation). Why didn't you confirm the jailkeep?

I'll go with the standard questions: who did you track and why?

[madmitch]

@ Caff, I am getting tired of your insults ,you don't even know me so be kind,as for your claim as tracker it could be true ,you did say you had important role ( MANY TIMES ) but I took that as a role in the game like Shepard or any of his squad members, also Doom brought up a great question ,who did you track and why ?

[Ragian]

Well, whom did he choose and why. Never tracked anyone if jailed. I may be splitting hairs, but still...

[madmitch]

@ Ragain he can still track !

[iAmCaffeine]

I'm a tracker btw.

Unvote, Vote Caffeine

I was wavering if caffeine was scum or not before, based on the arguments that everyone else made.. but this half claim put me on the scum side.
Half-claims are very likely scum... especially in a game where the mod has said he didn't give out fake claims. (I think in a game like this the mod should give out fake claims, but that's not how he did it)

How is that half a clam? You want all the information I have; you've already got it.

Tue, Jul 11:

I feel like Ragian forgot he voted.

Vote DoomYoshi.

Not a vote?

I already admitted I forgot about that.

I don't understand. If you were a town power role and an investigative one, you would have known that you were blocked (or that something else interfered with your investigation). Why didn't you confirm the jailkeep?

I'll go with the standard questions: who did you track and why?

Yes, I knew my tracking garnered zero results. I didn't know why, but assumed I had been blocked somehow since if I chose someone with no actions I'd expect to be told that. I'm not going to instantly confirm a roleblock without first getting some more information. Is it not possible for 3rd party or even mafia (less likely) to have a blocking role? I have no idea if they do or not but I wasn't gonna just out everything without a second thought, especially when I don't know the lore and so have less idea what to expect.

I tracked Samlen, not that it means anything.

@ Caff, I am getting tired of your insults ,you don't even know me so be kind,as for your claim as tracker it could be true ,you did say you had important role ( MANY TIMES ) but I took that as a role in the game like Shepard or any of his squad members, also Doom brought up a great question ,who did you track and why ?

You shouldn't take my insults to heart. You'd know if I was actually trying to insult you, but fair enough I'll calm it down. I get passionate okay. I don't even know who Shepherd's squad members are. I also don't know any other roles but my own, and I don't know the actual name of my role 'cause I deleted the PM.

Honestly Im not really sure where to move to....like this whole thing with Caff is just frustrating to read. And frankly not enjoyable to play in, hence the majority of us probably staying quiet.

Maybe if people actually stopped to read and learnt to understand better, I wouldn't be so repetitive and volatile.

[HotShot53]

I'm a tracker btw.

Unvote, Vote Caffeine

I was wavering if caffeine was scum or not before, based on the arguments that everyone else made.. but this half claim put me on the scum side.
Half-claims are very likely scum... especially in a game where the mod has said he didn't give out fake claims. (I think in a game like this the mod should give out fake claims, but that's not how he did it)

How is that half a clam? You want all the information I have; you've already got it.
.....
I don't even know who Shepherd's squad members are. I also don't know any other roles but my own, and I don't know the actual name of my role 'cause I deleted the PM.

I don't believe you accidentally deleted your role PM, I believe you are not full claiming since as the first to claim you'll fake claim someone else's name and have a high likelihood of being counter-claimed.
(This is why themed games should have fake claims given to scum... )

[iAmCaffeine]

I never said anything about accidentally deleting it. I just deleted it. My inbox fills and self-deletes in under a week. I know my role and what I do. There was nothing else in the PM I needed. The name was meaningless to me since I don't know Mass Effect lore.

I've never played a game where fake claims where actually given to scum.

[iAmCaffeine]

Wait, are fake claims like so that mafia know what they can claim in the lore? Interesting concept. Now I understand what your point was, although still not pertinent. I claimed what my role was and is.