Quentin Tarantino Mafia Night 3 (Mafia Win!)

[spurgistan]

Umm, nobody said you were.

That was supposed to be a reference to something or other.

[aage]

Right.

Where were we?

I think it was something about Mandy having a case against 3 ppl (who I once again was among), but now he has been replaced...

[Commander9]

Confirm. I'll re-read everything most likely some time tonight and I'll post a thought or a few.

[safariguy5]

Announcement

strike wolf has replaced lalaland

VioIet has replaced pmchugh (for those who didn't know)

Hopefully AoG is back relatively soon so we can get this restarted.

[strike wolf]

Confirm. Will reread later... But I can confirm Mandy's main goal in all games is to have our sanity torn to shreds.

Still reading but QFT

[strike wolf]

confirm

[Commander9]

First of all, I just wanted to tell everyone that I've replaced a true piece of art and I will never be able to replicate it... but I shall try! (No, not really).

Two most scummy people I found out were Karel, nag and Ga7, but I'd say Ga7 wins here. Aage is also a bit scummy, but not as bad as the other two.

Wtf are you on about? Just vote him

Hahahahah. L-3 people, get voting

Nice quick claim. I have never unsertood peopels reasoning as to force early claims. Instead of using your brain and trying to work it out as soon as you suspect someone you want a cliam...sigh

oh well too late now, whats your character vio?

I hope you see the use now Pmc
Seriously, scummy noob = higher chance to slip up or completely botching a fake claim

All of it a quick and effective way to deal with someone. I'd say someone has been a bit too quick and excited to lynch, then switch to next target, then switch again, then switch again, rinse and repeat.

Despite repeated advice you guys want to go for the lynch of a guy that just happens to always have more illogical gameplay and that claimed, well at this point I say go ahead and do your noob thing, I'm pretty sure it will prove you wrong, I seriously hope there's some scum on this wagon as else it will mean we got a piss poor town. Wake me up at day 2...

And this I thought was genius, if you'll allow me to say that - quickly get yourself away from the increasing and escalating bandwagon that looked to be leading to death. By that point, it seemed that it probably wouldn't stop and this could have been used as an excuse after the death to say - "Oh, I had nothing to do with it - I told you not to lynch, but you noobs didn't listen to me."

Vote Ga7.

[Victor Sullivan]

I can be a sub if ya still need one

[safariguy5]

Announcement

Victor Sullivan has replaced Army of GOD.

Day 2 has restarted, Commander9 jumped the gun a bit but I'll allow his post and vote.

Vote Count
ga7-1 (Commander9)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[strike wolf]

Ok it's kind of funny how so many people have learned Mandy so well they know not to make a fuss about when he wants to lynch a role that sounds like a townie..course it isn't his first try either (reflects back on Platoon Mafia). Either way I do think his replacement is innocent. As for who I suspect both karel and tails struck odd vibes with me...Aage is argument with mandy was reminiscent of Briarsburg mafia day 2 so I don't think he's scum...and the rest well I may have to go back and check again...

[strike wolf]

Hm. This is only my second game here, so I'm not quite sure whether mandy is acting suspicious or if that's just they way he is.

I have to agree with ga7, I would like to hear some more from karel (and to a lesser extent Haggis) because they haven't posted that much. Maybe they're busy in rl? Or trying to lay low?

Anyways I'll reserve my vote until I hear some more, maybe from someone who knows what happened in the night.

-TG

I say sk or dumb vig.

Now let's move on from things that don't matter.

I'd say whether we have an overzealous vig or sk matters a lot actually. Or are you being sarcastic?

I can't tell so FOS on Fircoal.

Ok not much here but sounds like tails may be trying to play the newbie, I can't tell what people are talking about card.

Mandy is not posting, Karel is. Need I say more...? Also, fixing on 1 person isn't a good scum find strategy...

Unless you were to get an actual roleclaim.

If anything mandy's lack of posting would be submarining, and make him further suspicious. Karel is trying to defend himself (herself? idk sorry the name throws me off but everyone keeps referring to you as a he), so of course he is active. And yet you still decided to pursue karel instead of sticking to mandy. Yes I realize you still have your vote on mandy, but you're acting scummy enough for me to vote you.

-TG

Ok again not much here but it seems like a bit of a 180. He goes from being confused and acting a bit inexperienced to a post that does show some good reasoning.

Apparently you've got no idea what I'm talking about. If I were to post, which I did, I would see whether I agreed with Karel or no, and explain why and ask further questions. That's what everyone's doing. Why is that suspicious in my case? I could go ahead and interrupt every discussion with "oh and mandy is acting sooo scummy" but that does not help. It kind of looks like you're saying I should have done that. Be more clear. Please.

Yes I know what you're talking about.

However I'm saying that you're trying to blend in with the crowd, so as to avoid suspicion. If you're convinced mandy is scum, pursue it. The only way to get anywhere is to get a REAL claim from somebody (here's looking at you mandy). You were pretty heated earlier with him, and now not so much...

Just saying...

-TG

This post just makes me wonder if he knows the meaning of blend in...Aage was being pretty agressive in his posts and far from laying low, that doesn't fit my definition of blending in.

P.S. I plan to claim just the name, not the role itself.

Right there.

FOS on ga7, for your support of aage (suspected scum). Same circumstance as your supposing that I'm defending karel, no?

-TG

This came right on the heels of ga7 voting him so a bit of omgus.

unvote vote mandy

-TG

Nothing to see here, just switching to the popular wagon.

I think mandy has cleared himself, I guess. unvote

I have no idea who to suspect.

-TG

Translation: this wagon has died who's the next scape goat because I don't want to formulate a reason to vote right now?

vote Army of GOD for submarining. He's only posted to agree to some points, and hasn't really made solid arguments for suspects, for at least the last 5 pages. And he's one of the most active posters in the forums. Sounds like third-party scum trying to lay low to me...

-Tails

switching attention to AoG as someone else votes Karel, more defense of a scum buddy as well as calling out AoG as possible third party not mafia possible slip up.


All this is more than enough evidence for me to believe that both Ta1ls and Karel are scum.

vote tails

[strike wolf]

Hm. This is only my second game here, so I'm not quite sure whether mandy is acting suspicious or if that's just they way he is.

I have to agree with ga7, I would like to hear some more from karel (and to a lesser extent Haggis) because they haven't posted that much. Maybe they're busy in rl? Or trying to lay low?

Anyways I'll reserve my vote until I hear some more, maybe from someone who knows what happened in the night.

-TG

I say sk or dumb vig.

Now let's move on from things that don't matter.

I'd say whether we have an overzealous vig or sk matters a lot actually. Or are you being sarcastic?

I can't tell so FOS on Fircoal.

Ok not much here but sounds like tails may be trying to play the newbie, I can't tell what people are talking about card.

Mandy is not posting, Karel is. Need I say more...? Also, fixing on 1 person isn't a good scum find strategy...

Unless you were to get an actual roleclaim.

If anything mandy's lack of posting would be submarining, and make him further suspicious. Karel is trying to defend himself (herself? idk sorry the name throws me off but everyone keeps referring to you as a he), so of course he is active. And yet you still decided to pursue karel instead of sticking to mandy. Yes I realize you still have your vote on mandy, but you're acting scummy enough for me to vote you.

-TG

Ok again not much here but it seems like a bit of a 180. He goes from being confused and acting a bit inexperienced to a post that does show some good reasoning. Not to mention he's stepping up to defend karel something that becomes a theme during the day.

Apparently you've got no idea what I'm talking about. If I were to post, which I did, I would see whether I agreed with Karel or no, and explain why and ask further questions. That's what everyone's doing. Why is that suspicious in my case? I could go ahead and interrupt every discussion with "oh and mandy is acting sooo scummy" but that does not help. It kind of looks like you're saying I should have done that. Be more clear. Please.

Yes I know what you're talking about.

However I'm saying that you're trying to blend in with the crowd, so as to avoid suspicion. If you're convinced mandy is scum, pursue it. The only way to get anywhere is to get a REAL claim from somebody (here's looking at you mandy). You were pretty heated earlier with him, and now not so much...

Just saying...

-TG

This post just makes me wonder if he knows the meaning of blend in...Aage was being pretty agressive in his posts and far from laying low, that doesn't fit my definition of blending in. Plus more of this saga defending karel now trying to switch attention to mandy.

P.S. I plan to claim just the name, not the role itself.

Right there.

FOS on ga7, for your support of aage (suspected scum). Same circumstance as your supposing that I'm defending karel, no?

-TG

This came right on the heels of ga7 voting him so a bit of omgus.

unvote vote mandy

-TG

Nothing to see here, just switching to the popular wagon.

I think mandy has cleared himself, I guess. unvote

I have no idea who to suspect.

-TG

Translation: this wagon has died who's the next scape goat because I don't want to formulate a reason to vote right now?

vote Army of GOD for submarining. He's only posted to agree to some points, and hasn't really made solid arguments for suspects, for at least the last 5 pages. And he's one of the most active posters in the forums. Sounds like third-party scum trying to lay low to me...

-Tails

switching attention to AoG as someone else votes Karel, more defense of a scum buddy as well as calling out AoG as possible third party not mafia possible slip up.


All this is more than enough evidence for me to believe that both Ta1ls and Karel are scum.

vote tails

Ebwop in bold.

[aage]

Well, I do hope that Mandy's replacement can explain to me what all that mr. white and mr. orange stuff was about. I haven't watched the movie, but Mandy's tale was just contradicting itself over and over again. That was the main reason I was pursuing it. I'm willing to wipe that slate and give the replacement a go, but I would appreciate some explanation.

[Victor Sullivan]

I be firm. Just gotta read up on Day 1, unless someone wants to gimme a summary

[safariguy5]

Vote Count
ga7-1 (Commander9)
tails-1 (strike wolf)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

a wall of text

Whew. So yeah I don't really remember what I was thinking. However I will re-read the entire thread to respond properly, strike. However I can't really do this until probably Thursday evening. I have a calculus final on thursday which I need to prepare for (which I should be doing now, damnit, but I'm procrastinating in these damn fora ).

-Tails

[strike wolf]

Understandable. my vote stands pending your explanation.

[ga7]

Sorry for the inactivity this might be the one game too much for me right now... Exam coming too. WIll try to reread tomoz

[Commander9]

Announcement.

Finals are coming and while I thought I could hope with them without studying, a B that I got changed my mind a bit. I may be able to post a few things and I may not. If you want to replace me/mod kill me, feel free.

If I'll still be alive by next Friday, I should go back to the regular regime. Thank you for your attention.

[edocsil]

Reread. My thoughts.

Fircoal Ga7 and Nag are all dismissive of all accusations against mandy, that pisses me off. That being said, there really is little that can be done without their support.

The best options seems to be TG

Ok, re-read the last 5 or so pages, find this kind of odd:

However I'm saying that you're trying to blend in with the crowd, so as to avoid suspicion. If you're convinced mandy is scum, pursue it. The only way to get anywhere is to get a REAL claim from somebody (here's looking at you mandy). You were pretty heated earlier with him, and now not so much...

Just saying...

-TG

- So blending in with the crowd, is supicious, and you should pursue people till you get a real claim.

You're apparently skimming and not happy people are onto Karel. Mandy claimed already. I think we will get more info from your lynch now, you seem more likely scum.

Unvote Vote Tails

Apparently you're skimming. He just claimed the name, not the role.

Tails doesn't buy the implied mandy VT thing, he considers that mandy hasn't claimed.

Anyway, it does change the point that you're right, we haven't heard a full claim from Mandy so it could be a target of suspicion, but to me it doesn't change the part that he's more likely town and really wanted to be recruited/masoned etc

I'm thinking the same thing. I don't think mandy is scum, just and odd bird.

-The Dude abides

But he doesn't think mandy is scum.

Then Edocsil makes his case against mandy.

Perhaps we should get this game moving. D2 has lasted a while. Should we no lynch, or actually try and vote someone? We've already lost three townies. Maybe a vote count would be in order? I'm much too lazy to do it myself though.

-TG

Tails still doesn't think mandy is scum(since he doesn't say anything about him, or edocsil's case)

pmc joins mandy wagon

unvote vote mandy

-TG

Suddenly Tails jumps on the wagon as well ...

Later mandy finally gives(more or less satisfying) reasons for his actions, but no actual concrete role claim. Edocsil unvotes.

I think mandy has cleared himself, I guess. unvote

I have no idea who to suspect.

-TG

Tails goes with the flow again, being by his own definition suspicious.

Normally i'd fos, but since this is such a big game, there's no danger of unintentional lynch so:
vote TA1LGUNN3R

This logic all seems sound, Vote TG

[aage]

Damn it.

Safariguy, could you please find a replacement for Commander9 as I'm still waiting for his answer..

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Hm. This is only my second game here, so I'm not quite sure whether mandy is acting suspicious or if that's just they way he is.

I have to agree with ga7, I would like to hear some more from karel (and to a lesser extent Haggis) because they haven't posted that much. Maybe they're busy in rl? Or trying to lay low?

Anyways I'll reserve my vote until I hear some more, maybe from someone who knows what happened in the night.

-TG

I say sk or dumb vig.

Now let's move on from things that don't matter.

I'd say whether we have an overzealous vig or sk matters a lot actually. Or are you being sarcastic?

I can't tell so FOS on Fircoal.

Ok not much here but sounds like tails may be trying to play the newbie, I can't tell what people are talking about card. Yeah kinda, also I usually don't like to vote for someone without some evidence. Also at the time I did thought chu was saying that it wasn't important if we had a SK or dumb vig, but he elaborated

No I'm nawt, think about it, with there being two kills there are different possible ways that it could come about but at this point it does not matter. It's Day 2, we're not going to find out everything about a 16 player game then. Anything would just be speculation that we don't know. It's not like my current game which had it be 7 left on Day 2 and it's pretty important. AT this point we really need to buckle up and find scum. Discussing what setup he used wil not do that. Really it's just a shallow discussion that people can contribute to and smile because they're contributing to the "Discussion."

Mandy is not posting, Karel is. Need I say more...? Also, fixing on 1 person isn't a good scum find strategy...

Unless you were to get an actual roleclaim.

If anything mandy's lack of posting would be submarining, and make him further suspicious. Karel is trying to defend himself (herself? idk sorry the name throws me off but everyone keeps referring to you as a he), so of course he is active. And yet you still decided to pursue karel instead of sticking to mandy. Yes I realize you still have your vote on mandy, but you're acting scummy enough for me to vote you.

-TG

Ok again not much here but it seems like a bit of a 180. He goes from being confused and acting a bit inexperienced to a post that does show some good reasoning. meh I was bullshitting

Apparently you've got no idea what I'm talking about. If I were to post, which I did, I would see whether I agreed with Karel or no, and explain why and ask further questions. That's what everyone's doing. Why is that suspicious in my case? I could go ahead and interrupt every discussion with "oh and mandy is acting sooo scummy" but that does not help. It kind of looks like you're saying I should have done that. Be more clear. Please.

Yes I know what you're talking about.

However I'm saying that you're trying to blend in with the crowd, so as to avoid suspicion. If you're convinced mandy is scum, pursue it. The only way to get anywhere is to get a REAL claim from somebody (here's looking at you mandy). You were pretty heated earlier with him, and now not so much...

Just saying...

-TG

This post just makes me wonder if he knows the meaning of blend in...Aage was being pretty agressive in his posts and far from laying low, that doesn't fit my definition of blending in. Yeah he WAS acting aggressive, but then:

Lol. Improving the basis I suspect is as likely as him eating his own guts for breakfast. Gut feeling ftw
Fos Aage for a totally different reason, you're not on Pmc team? Team? Really? You're part of another team then? Or know of Pmc's team?

ga7 FOS's him, and he switches to grilling karel. True, I don't believe he switches his vote that day, but he stops his pursuit of mandy for the time being. See pages 16-18

P.S. I plan to claim just the name, not the role itself.

Right there.

FOS on ga7, for your support of aage (suspected scum). Same circumstance as your supposing that I'm defending karel, no?

-TG

This came right on the heels of ga7 voting him so a bit of omgus. lol you should read that whole argument. ga7 accused me of skimming, whilst he skimmed himself. Ga7 thought that mandy claimed VT, but really he just gave a name (Mr. White), but never a role, and tried to say that I was suspicious for skimming

unvote vote mandy

-TG

Nothing to see here, just switching to the popular wagon. yeah kinda. The game was starting to die by then, and I didn't really want it to. Plus the fact that mandy had intentionally given us a vague claim, and tried to confuse everybody just made me wanna lynch him.

I think mandy has cleared himself, I guess. unvote

I have no idea who to suspect.

-TG

Translation: this wagon has died who's the next scape goat because I don't want to formulate a reason to vote right now? Actually not too far off. I figured since ga7, nag, and fir were so defensive of mandy, I wouldn't get anywhere. Whether they were defending mandy as a scum mate or not, but we happened to be the only ones posting regularly.

vote Army of GOD for submarining. He's only posted to agree to some points, and hasn't really made solid arguments for suspects, for at least the last 5 pages. And he's one of the most active posters in the forums. Sounds like third-party scum trying to lay low to me...

-Tails

switching attention to AoG as someone else votes Karel, more defense of a scum buddy as well as calling out AoG as possible third party not mafia possible slip up. Well I figured a scummariner was third party. I never really felt that karel was all that suspicious. But sure you can construe that to a scummate connection if you want to.


All this is more than enough evidence for me to believe that both Ta1ls and Karel are scum.

vote tails

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Whew!! Sorry about that wall of text y'all. I re-read the entire thread, so it took a while.

Also Wolf you've got all my posts out of chronological order, it kinda makes things sound worse than they are.

-Tails

[safariguy5]

Vote Count
ga7-1 (Commander9)
tails-2 (strike wolf, edocsil)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

I'll work on a replacement, will pm Mr. Squirrel

[Victor Sullivan]

For the record - still reading up on the thread. Will try to post relatively soon.