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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:13 pm

spiesr wrote:Well, if this is true then that means mason is a role in this game. I wonder how the assigning of that went. IE what happens if only one person would have be set to get a mason role? Anyway, according to shield the roles not in this game would be two of: Governor, Loved Person, and Bulletproof.
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I asked the mod to confirm and Rodion said that I am not affected by ANY night actions, not even roleblocking. But I can not commute on 2 consecutive nights.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby pmchugh on Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:17 am

I have to admit that I accidentally sent a list of 15, so it does happen.

Unfortunately it provides us with less information than I assumed we would get.

My assessment: There is no 1-shot governor in this game.

All of these roles are:

1st - cop
2nd - doctor
3rd - busdriver
4th - vigilante
5th - doublevoter
6th - inventor
7th - JOAT
8th - roleblocker
9th - bomb
10th - tracker
11th - watcher
12th - mason
13th- mason number 2
14th - commuter

This leaves one role left between: Bulletproof, Ninja, Framer and loved townie.

I would be surprised if it was loved townie or framer tbh. So if there is a bulletproof townie in this game, then he knows that the mafia took all townie roles. This worries me as I find it likely they had mafia roles at least in the middle of their lists.

All of this assumes sg7 did not lie.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:27 am

pmchugh wrote:I can't hack this.

Number of people who haven't posted in the last:

24 Hours: 9
48 hours: 7
6 days : 3 - Alt. mob. nag
7 days: 2- MOB deadly, nag
10 days: 1- nag

Whats the point in joining a mafia game and then not posting in it for an entire week. After my games finish I am going to stop playing, its not fun with so many inactives.


hey just saw this while reading up
i can only say that you took this count on a sunday which is the weekend so the whole point that 16 people didnt post on the weekend is not that big of a deal
the 6 7 i can see how that is a problem ,and the whole 10 days thing is ridiculous ..but anyway the 24 and 48 hour ones are kinda pointless considering its the weekend
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby ghostly447 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:32 am

nagerous wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote::-s You should have sent a list of 16...


I copy-pasted the roles from the first page and reorganized them in the PM window. I must have accidentally deleted a few while I was moving them around. :oops:

-SG7 ( :) )


That all seems a little fishy for me and earns my vote

Worst comes to worst - commuter is not the biggest loss to the town

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I personally feel SG7 is to be trusted. I know how it feels to get a crap role in a game, and it nearly sucks the effort right out of you. I find it more fighy that Nag only came in after 10 days jsut to say it seems a little fishy for him copying the first page and organizing it. Its exactly what I did too, but I dont think I accidently deleted any.

Vote Nag for trying to wagon with, what I believe to be, a very pathetic bit of reasoning. I think Nag knows more than to jump on a wagon in this manner.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:36 am

ghostly447 wrote:
nagerous wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote::-s You should have sent a list of 16...


I copy-pasted the roles from the first page and reorganized them in the PM window. I must have accidentally deleted a few while I was moving them around. :oops:

-SG7 ( :) )


That all seems a little fishy for me and earns my vote

Worst comes to worst - commuter is not the biggest loss to the town

unvote vote shield


I personally feel SG7 is to be trusted. I know how it feels to get a crap role in a game, and it nearly sucks the effort right out of you. I find it more fighy that Nag only came in after 10 days jsut to say it seems a little fishy for him copying the first page and organizing it. Its exactly what I did too, but I dont think I accidently deleted any.

Vote Nag for trying to wagon with, what I believe to be, a very pathetic bit of reasoning. I think Nag knows more than to jump on a wagon in this manner.


i have to agree with you ghostly everyone says he is so good and he goes and jumps on a wagon like that ...maybe you guys have put him to high up on a pedistal and he cant live up to it...but still with all that experience you think he would know better
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby Djfireside on Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:32 am

Sorry I got horribly sick over the weekend and still trying to pull my head out of the clouds. Ill read it once my medicine wears off but wanted to note based on prod im still here and there appears to be a good deal of data so time for logic deducing
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby nagerous on Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:29 am

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
ghostly447 wrote:
nagerous wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote::-s You should have sent a list of 16...


I copy-pasted the roles from the first page and reorganized them in the PM window. I must have accidentally deleted a few while I was moving them around. :oops:

-SG7 ( :) )


That all seems a little fishy for me and earns my vote

Worst comes to worst - commuter is not the biggest loss to the town

unvote vote shield


I personally feel SG7 is to be trusted. I know how it feels to get a crap role in a game, and it nearly sucks the effort right out of you. I find it more fighy that Nag only came in after 10 days jsut to say it seems a little fishy for him copying the first page and organizing it. Its exactly what I did too, but I dont think I accidently deleted any.

Vote Nag for trying to wagon with, what I believe to be, a very pathetic bit of reasoning. I think Nag knows more than to jump on a wagon in this manner.


i have to agree with you ghostly everyone says he is so good and he goes and jumps on a wagon like that ...maybe you guys have put him to high up on a pedistal and he cant live up to it...but still with all that experience you think he would know better
vote nag


Seemed like pretty decent evidence to attach a vote on to me, unlike the rest of the votes on the damn wagon. In my eyes he gave a clear impression that he had generated the list on the spot - as opposed to grabbing it from his sent items. That and the fact that a claimed commuter is not a major loss anyway, I cannot comprehend your logic in voting me.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:32 am

What of my post gave you a "clear impression that I had generated the list on the spot"?
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby nagerous on Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:39 am

everywhere116 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote::-s You should have sent a list of 16...


I copy-pasted the roles from the first page and reorganized them in the PM window. I must have accidentally deleted a few while I was moving them around. :oops:

-SG7 ( :) )

Go get your list from your sentbox.


Like everywhere here, it seemed to me like you had just written up that list when you posted into the thread when you could just get the list from your sentbox and that is what I found fishy. I guess I was mistaken/misconstrued what you said, which I hold up my hand to. I don't like the fact that people are seemingly voting me though also for metagame reasons and these are people who have never even played with me before or know my style of play - that is just stupid.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby pmchugh on Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:21 pm

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
pmchugh wrote:I can't hack this.

Number of people who haven't posted in the last:

24 Hours: 9
48 hours: 7
6 days : 3 - Alt. mob. nag
7 days: 2- MOB deadly, nag
10 days: 1- nag

Whats the point in joining a mafia game and then not posting in it for an entire week. After my games finish I am going to stop playing, its not fun with so many inactives.


hey just saw this while reading up
i can only say that you took this count on a sunday which is the weekend so the whole point that 16 people didnt post on the weekend is not that big of a deal
the 6 7 i can see how that is a problem ,and the whole 10 days thing is ridiculous ..but anyway the 24 and 48 hour ones are kinda pointless considering its the weekend


Good point.

I don't know about everyone else but I wouldn't be too unhappy to just lynch sg7. His role isn't that important, he is a not bad shout for day 1 lynch and I believe we could get some decent information from his lynch.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:29 pm

I'm happy to lynch him too. He could be scum and if town his role is only any use if the scum don't know.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby Ragian on Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:03 pm

Knowing that the hammer receives plenty scrutiny the next day, I will provide such if a vast majority believes that this has been thoroughly debated and agree to lynch SG7.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby spiesr on Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:47 pm

Ragian wrote:Knowing that the hammer receives plenty scrutiny the next day, I will provide such if a vast majority believes that this has been thoroughly debated and agree to lynch SG7.
Or you could come to a determination about what to do yourself, rather than hiding and letting others make your decisions for you and worrying about only doing things that will be popular...
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby nagerous on Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:49 pm

Ragian wrote:Knowing that the hammer receives plenty scrutiny the next day, I will provide such if a vast majority believes that this has been thoroughly debated and agree to lynch SG7.


What in god's holy name are you blathering about? Your hammering vote would make lynching SG7 the majority vote.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby Ragian on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:15 pm

Sheesh...

What I'm saying, I'm saying because it seems that not everyone has seen SG's claim. As I gathered, some fire-five people are all for the lynch, but people voting SG7 wanted him to claim, so they might feel differently when they read his claim. At least one has voice concerns about us lynching him. I'm giving the rest some time to check in. It should be fairly easy to deduce what I'm thinking when I offer the hammer.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:19 pm

nagerous wrote:
Ragian wrote:Knowing that the hammer receives plenty scrutiny the next day, I will provide such if a vast majority believes that this has been thoroughly debated and agree to lynch SG7.


What in god's holy name are you blathering about? Your hammering vote would make lynching SG7 the majority vote.


lshicastr nag you are quite right.

thank you Ragian for being considerate :)

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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby everywhere116 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm

After analyzing his list with a little more logic, I happen to know for a fact that shield is lying, either about his list or his claim.

Lynch him. We only need one more.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:30 pm

everywhere116 wrote:After analyzing his list with a little more logic, I happen to know for a fact that shield is lying, either about his list or his claim.

Lynch him. We only need one more.


What do you mean you know I'm lying? How can you tell? This sounds like a bloodthirsty command than a townie statement without the backup logic.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby everywhere116 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:35 pm

There is no possible way for you to have the role that you claim based on the list that you claimed.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:37 pm

everywhere116 wrote:There is no possible way for you to have the role that you claim based on the list that you claimed.


explain.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby everywhere116 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:48 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:There is no possible way for you to have the role that you claim based on the list that you claimed.


explain.

Fine.

You claimed commuter as the 13th spot on your list. Which means that in order to have gotten down that far on your list, 13 players would have had to taken the 13 roles above you, (Mason could be taken by two players), with a mafia role going to the 14th, and then you with commuter. However, you did not include my role in one of the 13 above yours, which makes the former condition impossible. Ergo, you have given us false information somewhere. You said that was the list you sent to Rodion, and that he gave you commuter as a result. These two claims conflict with each other.

QED, bitches!
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby Ragian on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:48 pm

everywhere116 wrote:There is no possible way for you to have the role that you claim based on the list that you claimed.


I would like to understand this too...
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby edocsil on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:52 pm

everywhere116 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:There is no possible way for you to have the role that you claim based on the list that you claimed.


explain.

Fine.

You claimed commuter as the 13th spot on your list. Which means that in order to have gotten down that far on your list, 13 players would have had to taken the 13 roles above you, (Mason could be taken by two players), with a mafia role going to the 14th, and then you with commuter. However, you did not include my role in one of the 13 above yours, which makes the former condition impossible. Ergo, you have given us false information somewhere. You said that was the list you sent to Rodion, and that he gave you commuter as a result. These two claims conflict with each other.

QED, bitches!


Yeah, pretty much the fact that he is still alive is embarrassing. He has lied somewhere (13th pick lol) so off with his head.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:54 pm

everywhere116 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:There is no possible way for you to have the role that you claim based on the list that you claimed.


explain.

Fine.

You claimed commuter as the 13th spot on your list. Which means that in order to have gotten down that far on your list, 13 players would have had to taken the 13 roles above you, (Mason could be taken by two players), with a mafia role going to the 14th, and then you with commuter. However, you did not include my role in one of the 13 above yours, which makes the former condition impossible. Ergo, you have given us false information somewhere. You said that was the list you sent to Rodion, and that he gave you commuter as a result. These two claims conflict with each other.

QED, bitches!


everywhere, 13 players above me + me + you = 15, the number of players in the game. Your role's absence from this list is possible. I don't see the impossible scenario here
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (15/15) - Day 1

Postby everywhere116 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:55 pm

I'm above you, you know.
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