Halo: The Mafia: Day 6: End of the World as we KnowIt (9/25)

[safariguy5]

Well someone is lying. Either way, I'll believe the person who claimed actions first.

[safariguy5]

unvote vote jgordon

[thehippo8]

Thanks for your explanations shaggy.

Sorry, jg, that doesn't cut it for me.

What power? What targets were you thinking of? Why aren't you claiming?

vote jg

[zimmah]

Jgordon chose not to target anyone, according to him. Even if this is true, it would mean he has a potentially dangerous move like roleblock or vig. I don't believe his claim though. Also since there are already 2 persons who claimed to have been roleblocked, it would be unlikely jgordon is another roleblocker. So that would make jgordon a vig, if he would be telling the truth. Which I highly doubt, as I don't really see a motive for shaggy to expose himself if he would be lying about his claim. (much too dangerous to make such a story up, especially this early in the game). If he's lying he will pay for it eventually.

[jgordon1111]

not saying shaggy is lying,I am trying to figure out how I got next to IB,when I shouldnt have been near anyone at all. and you are on the money zimmah

[edocsil]

You couldn't have with your story, that's why you are going to swing

If you/shaggy had claimed to have been bussed or something besides the previous claims there would be possibilities of the scum mucking things up. However, you said you didn't not target at all, so that leaves no margin for error, you lied or shaggy did, and he effectively has a guilty on you.

[DiM]

i doubt shaggy is a mafia willing to sacrifice himself just to get a lynch on gordon.

vote jgordon

[samgrossy]

I doubt someone outs themselves and explains their actions without provocation unless they are telling the truth or have developed an intricate web of mafia scum lies that will probably be hit pretty hard the the next day.

Occam's razor - the answer with the fewest assumptions is probably the best.

VOTE JGORDON

[crazymilkshake5]

grossys vote puts him at L4 by my count. alot of people seem to forget that votes need to be blue

and i am also on jgordons side. and do not believe shaggys claim, for most of the reason zim pointed out.

and if you all do decide to lynch jg at least get a claim before you do.

[jgordon1111]

grossys vote puts him at L4 by my count. alot of people seem to forget that votes need to be blue

and i am also on jgordons side. and do not believe shaggys claim, for most of the reason zim pointed out.

and if you all do decide to lynch jg at least get a claim before you do.

Never back me CM5, I will handle this. this is one I am going to let go to the wire If I get lynched at least others will know there is a problem lol

[ShaggyDan]

The mod change

d the colour rule on the last vote count of day one. Also what point did zim make?

Jgordon chose not to target anyone, according to him. Even if this is true, it would mean he has a potentially dangerous move like roleblock or vig. I don't believe his claim though. Also since there are already 2 persons who claimed to have been roleblocked, it would be unlikely jgordon is another roleblocker. So that would make jgordon a vig, if he would be telling the truth. Which I highly doubt, as I don't really see a motive for shaggy to expose himself if he would be lying about his claim. (much too dangerous to make such a story up, especially this early in the game). If he's lying he will pay for it eventually.

FOS crazymilkshake for skimming.

Fastposted; I'm not sure if I am missing the point of the last post... First telling someoone not to back him up seems like scummy protection and what do you mean by"letting this one go to the wire".

[jgordon1111]

The mod change

d the colour rule on the last vote count of day one. Also what point did zim make?

Jgordon chose not to target anyone, according to him. Even if this is true, it would mean he has a potentially dangerous move like roleblock or vig. I don't believe his claim though. Also since there are already 2 persons who claimed to have been roleblocked, it would be unlikely jgordon is another roleblocker. So that would make jgordon a vig, if he would be telling the truth. Which I highly doubt, as I don't really see a motive for shaggy to expose himself if he would be lying about his claim. (much too dangerous to make such a story up, especially this early in the game). If he's lying he will pay for it eventually.

FOS crazymilkshake for skimming.

Fastposted; I'm not sure if I am missing the point of the last post... First telling someoone not to back him up seems like scummy protection and what do you mean by"letting this one go to the wire".

I believe this is our first game together,so I will explain,usually I will quick claim,unless I am protecting my role.
Second I always advise others not to back me when I am being pressured.
Just the way I play,I drop enough hints to everyone and if forced to claim at L1 I will but not without trying to fight it.

[pancakemix]

L-1? You're not leaving a lot of room for error here. You might want to consider claiming earlier, because with this many players this early on, I have no fear of lynching you.

[lord voldemort]

vote jgordon I want him to claim before a lynch though

[pancakemix]

vote jgordon I want him to claim before a lynch though

That would be preferable, I'd just like it sooner rather than later. No need to play with fire.

[jgordon1111]

No pancake,its best to see who jumps on the BW and for what reason it will possibly give town something to go off of later,and if someone jumps the gun and hammers,well then you have a scum possibility right there

[lord voldemort]

You realise people are jumping on you because of an investigation that says you were at ibs house when they were killed. If we believe the claim then what do you expect from us?? Its not a bandwagon mate...There is pretty solid evidence that you seem to not even attempt to deny or defend

[jgordon1111]

You realise people are jumping on you because of an investigation that says you were at ibs house when they were killed. If we believe the claim then what do you expect from us?? Its not a bandwagon mate...There is pretty solid evidence that you seem to not even attempt to deny or defend

Then please read what I have written closer,I have already stated I did not use my night action,because I had no absolute for sure target.

Therefore something is wrong with the read shaggy got.

If anyone else has not already read this please feel free to do so now.

That is my defense voldermort.

[ShaggyDan]

Because there hasn't been a vote count and I'm not sure if everyone has had a chance to post if they influenced this result somehow I will:

Unvote

I will put my vote back on after an official count has been put up and more people weigh in. No point in rushing this.

There is plenty of time left for more discussion before a deadline. Town's power is talking so we should use it. I am still waiting for a response from CM5 in regards.to hos comment about Zim's post.

[zimmah]

I don't remember defending jgordon either. I even voted him in the same post if I'm not mistaken. (or at least shortly before or after).

I also think the lines to cm5 are pretty weird. They make it sound like they are somehow masoned, but it would not make sense for a vig to be masoned, besides, vig is an easy role to claim for mafia, and because of this many players being active, it's easy to claim, "well gee I don't know, somebody's action must have messed up the results, I don't say player x is lying, but there must be something more to it" what is basically what jgordon Is doing. that, and also like I said earlier, it's very unlikely that shaggy would expose himself like that just to have a chance to have someone lynched. The best thing that could happen is we lynch jgordon, see that he was telling the truth, and then likely lynch shaggy, and a 1 for 1 trade is usually not very good for mafia. Therefore, I doubt he'd be that stupid unless it's a far more complicated plot, but I really doubt that.

In case anyone misunderstands, I think jgordon is likely caught redhanded, and it's not likely shaggy would have lied.

[pancakemix]

No pancake,its best to see who jumps on the BW and for what reason it will possibly give town something to go off of later,and if someone jumps the gun and hammers,well then you have a scum possibility right there

Er, no it isn't, because right now I consider every vote against you justified to at least some degree. Beating around the bush and then whipping out a claim while calling out everyone who wagoned you makes no sense, because now you're just withholding information. We all know where this is going, but you want to wait right up until the end to claim. By doing so, you are only putting yourself at risk and, if you are telling the truth, costing us a potentially powerful town role.

Also, bear in mind that Shaggy is the one who's stuck his neck out while you're holding back. You're doing yourself no favors.

Then please read what I have written closer,I have already stated I did not use my night action,because I had no absolute for sure target.

Therefore something is wrong with the read shaggy got.

If anyone else has not already read this please feel free to do so now.

I DID already read that. Why does that mean I should believe you?

[edocsil]

I DID already read that. Why does that mean I should believe you?

People always say stuff like that. I don't understand why. Yes, JG, you have claimed an lack of action that you scenario impossible. Then you claim that we are all skimming when we ignore it? To us it is a bald faced lie, and we have no reason to think you are telling the truth. Why is this so hard to comprehend?

[safariguy5]

I mean, if jgordon wants to wait until L-1 to claim, so be it. But understand that charges of bandwagonning before you claim will hold little water with me as it's more or less a case of following an investigative result. So you can say whatever you want about certain people bandwagonning, but it doesn't mean that it's a strong accusation.

[jgordon1111]

Holy crap a lot of stuff taken out of context here,

@ zimmah,no I am not masoned with CM5,I have just told him as I do with everyone when I am on the block,do not help me,I will defend my self.

@ pancake I was talking to voldermort about reading it and anyone else that hadnt,some had read it already.

@ edoc same as pancake,I didnt say everyone was skimming,it was for those that had.

@ saf,this is a bandwagon with shaggy's evidence,not the usual no evidence bs,flawed evidence, but he has put me in the spotlight for some reason. and most of you have stated legit reasons for your votes. I am looking for the non legit voters who just want to lynch.

If you guys dont think this is helpful to town,you are missing some things,like voldermort who managed to miss what I said entirely.

Most of you know what I am,so lets see who doesnt and why they vote me.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Vote JGordon you're caught by an investigative role and refusing to officially claim until L-1 so here is to upping that pressure so you don't have time to try to find a fake role to claim. When you claim then I want to hear the full claim not something just like "vig" or whatever.