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Postby wicked on Fri May 11, 2007 10:46 am

trestain wrote:
wicked wrote:and your win condition?


fos wicked

his character name would have been more than enough at this stage and you know it.



not necessarily, but I understand your FOS.
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Postby trestain on Fri May 11, 2007 10:48 am

nagerous wrote:I am homer simpson jack of all trades


i am going to finish the end of this phrase, 'jack of all trades master of none'

i think that with him being homer (i think i believe this) and as wicked has already said homer is the major screw up in the show i am going to hold off on voting hitman.
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Fri May 11, 2007 10:49 am

wicked, that isnt you in your avy is it? someone said it and i just wanna check cause she's hot
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Postby freezie on Fri May 11, 2007 10:50 am

Vote: Hitman


As for now I beleive Nagerous.
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Postby wicked on Fri May 11, 2007 10:56 am

unfortunately, I don't see a way to find out for sure if Nag's reads are correct. With the janitor out there, we can't even learn anything from hitman's death.

I'm pretty sure I've got a beat on two scum already, but I'll withhold that until we're closer to the end of the day so as not to distract from the hitman vote.
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Postby The1exile on Fri May 11, 2007 11:00 am

wicked wrote:unfortunately, I don't see a way to find out for sure if Nag's reads are correct. With the janitor out there, we can't even learn anything from hitman's death.


I thought the janitor only cleaned up after mafi kills, not lynches? So we will learn from hitmans death.
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Fri May 11, 2007 11:04 am

I'll be at the girlfriends tonight, and i'll be going to see the levellers tomorrow with some friends who are coming to the city....


the levellers


.....so i wont be able to post for most of the weekend....catch you later mafia dudes. :)
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Postby wicked on Fri May 11, 2007 11:07 am

The1exile wrote:
wicked wrote:unfortunately, I don't see a way to find out for sure if Nag's reads are correct. With the janitor out there, we can't even learn anything from hitman's death.


I thought the janitor only cleaned up after mafi kills, not lynches? So we will learn from hitmans death.



oh true! cool!! alright, let's hear from hitman then...
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Postby wicked on Fri May 11, 2007 11:08 am

hey hound, make yourself useful and vote hitman before leaving.
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Fri May 11, 2007 11:52 am

wicked wrote:hey hound, make yourself useful and vote hitman before leaving.



vote wicked

for trying to lead the vote before i go away. I may change it back next time i'm on if i see good reason.

Later dudes :P
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri May 11, 2007 12:14 pm

nagerous wrote:hi everyone we already know I am a power role I investigated hitman079 considering he wanted to lynch me even though I claimed last night and he turned out as SCUM I say we lynch him


vote hitman079



Would you agree to be lynched then tomorrow if it turns out that you are wrong about him being scum?
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Postby wicked on Fri May 11, 2007 12:20 pm

why LSU? he may very well be a townie who just gets bad reads. and who the hell would agree to that anyway, except maybe hound who doesn't seem to want to play? :roll: that's got to be one of the stupidest questions I've ever seen asked in mafia.
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Postby nagerous on Fri May 11, 2007 12:21 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:
nagerous wrote:hi everyone we already know I am a power role I investigated hitman079 considering he wanted to lynch me even though I claimed last night and he turned out as SCUM I say we lynch him


vote hitman079



Would you agree to be lynched then tomorrow if it turns out that you are wrong about him being scum?


no I don't think thats wise, he might be scum that turns out pro-town, there is also the possibility that because I am Homer Simpson, the cop aspect of my jack of all trades role is a paranoid one. If you decided to lynch me I would never be able to utilise my three other skills for towns benefit. However, if this goes wrong I guess I would have lost the towns trust and if they feel they have to lynch me, which would be a mistake, there would be little I could say otherwise
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Fri May 11, 2007 12:25 pm

does it matter, we can lynch you if you agree or not........
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri May 11, 2007 12:33 pm

The reason I ask is because you come right out and ask us to vote someone and claim that role. Other then that we dont' have enough info to really know if that person is or isn't scum and for people to just vote on it is more of a bandwagon without any solid evidence.


FOS Nagerous for believing his info is good enough to just lynch someone because he says so, but not good enough to cover his own possible lynch.
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Postby nagerous on Fri May 11, 2007 12:36 pm

your wasting my time LSU and appearing to look scummy, I have given you enough information for a 99% surefire lynch of mafia. If you want to try and twist my words then try but you are just making yourself look suspicious
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Fri May 11, 2007 12:37 pm

unvote hitman

im withdrawing my vote cause negerous has no real evidence other than "i investigated" which could be bollocks
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Postby nagerous on Fri May 11, 2007 12:39 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:unvote hitman

im withdrawing my vote cause negerous has no real evidence other than "i investigated" which could be bollocks


only way to see if I am lying is to test out my theory otherwise we will be walking in circles, if you want to be fooled by mafia then be fooled. I have told you my role HOMER SIMPSON, one of the Simpsons themselves, I have also told you what my aim is and the details of my role: jack of all trades. If that isn't evidence enough then I don't know what is.
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Postby nagerous on Fri May 11, 2007 12:41 pm

in a mafia game its hard to get much more evidence than that, I am afraid I can't get anyone to vouch for me because I have no contact with any other townies. the mafia on the other hand know who each other are and therefore they will be attempting to prevent their man from being lynched
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Fri May 11, 2007 12:44 pm

i guess, well, we have to get on with it and move on, so the only option is
vote htiman

only cause i wanna move on
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Postby wicked on Fri May 11, 2007 12:52 pm

Possible scenarios:
1. Nag is town - Hitman is scum
2. Nag is town - Hitman is town (Nag getting bad reads as Homer)
3. Nag is scum - Hitman is town

So there's a 2/3 chance that both Nag and Hit are town. The ONLY way to know for sure is to lynch Hitman... BUT we need to hear from Hitman first to hear his claim.

So let's not rush a lynch or talk in circles until we hear from Hitman, OK?
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Fri May 11, 2007 12:57 pm

wicked wrote:Metagaming time here.... having skimmed through your first day, I noticed Mandy sticks out like a sore thumb. I've played a few games with him, and have come to see his style when he's scum and when he's not, and in this game he's acting like scum. He plays calm cool and collected when scum, and is more erractic and accusatory when town. I'd like to hear his defense why he's not scum? I imagine it will be entertaining.

VOTE MANDY


1. Glad to see that you are nice and angry about Sherwood mafia, Tuck. :wink:
2. True, I was erratic and accusatory in Sherwood game, but that was mostly because my goals were to get killed early and, if possible, take some scum down with me (and I succeded in both, if you remember :twisted: ). Also, in this games there is many players that I haven't played with before, so I am trying to learn more about their playing style (and possible mafia tells, for the futere reference :wink: :lol: )
Huckleberryhound wrote:Oh Mandy well,
you came and you gave without taking,
but I sent you away.
Oh, Mandy well,
you kissed me and stopped me from shaking,
and I need you today. Oh, Mandy!


1. I never kissed you! :shock: as is proved by
2. You are still shaking. :mrgreen:
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LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Well there is a janitor in the cartoon that works at the school and he usually is not portrayed in the best light so he could fairly well be scummy.

Is there any reason you're throwing the janitor into the mix ????


FOS LSU tiger josh


Non other then the fact that the mafia obviously has one. :roll:
FOS Huckleberry for playing dumb
wicked wrote:actually Mandy's an experienced player too.. why didn't they take him out?

3 possible explanations:
1. Newbie mafia
2. Almost completly newbie mafia with one more or less expirienced player trying to make expirienced players fight among themselves.
3. I am simply to adorable to be killed this early. 8)
The1exile wrote:Mandy I agree is weird. Maybe he doesnt't know he's in this game - has he even posted?

nagerous wrote:hi everyone we already know I am a power role I investigated hitman079 considering he wanted to lynch me even though I claimed last night and he turned out as SCUM I say we lynch him


vote hitman079


Sweet. :D

vote hitman

Doc, protect this guy if hitman turns out to be scum.
wicked wrote:nagerous, you're claiming cop then, I presume? Can you please tell us your name? I'd like to verify you are indeed the cop first before voting, as you could just be scum trying to out the cop. Or there is the possibility of two cops, meaning one would not be sane. Either way, name please.


Metagameing: Wicked is the only player in the known universe that suspects Cops and asks for extra-confirmation before voting, instead of judging him by wherther or not a player pointed out turns out to be scum. :roll: She did the same in TOMBSTONE, to get her scum-buddy (and mine) Aimless of the hook. Oh, yeah, she was mafia in that game... :-k FOS wicked
wicked wrote:unfortunately, I don't see a way to find out for sure if Nag's reads are correct. With the janitor out there, we can't even learn anything from hitman's death.


So, after realizing that "Wait, I don't get it" is a scum tell, you have stoped saying that and started with what is sure to become known as "The Unsure Era"? :lol:
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nagerous wrote:hi everyone we already know I am a power role I investigated hitman079 considering he wanted to lynch me even though I claimed last night and he turned out as SCUM I say we lynch him


vote hitman079



Would you agree to be lynched then tomorrow if it turns out that you are wrong about him being scum?

See, wicked? This is how a TOWNIE reacts to a Cop(or in this case: Jack)-claim. =D>

Nagerus, as you yourself had said, if hitman proves to be town, then on the morrow your ass is grass. :twisted:
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Postby wicked on Fri May 11, 2007 1:09 pm

Same old annoying Mandy. :roll:

This game is not Sherwood... and your assumptions are still incorrect on that game, but I can't elaborate b/c it's not over.

Anyone who's any good at mafia would be leery of any cop claim, hence my questions. You obviously haven't played a lot of mafia if you don't get that.

I'm pretty sure you're scum Mandy, but the vote probably won't go your way today. The fact you're so quick to want to lynch Nag if his read is incorrect is further proof of that. It also makes me further doubt Nag's read of Hitman as scum, but unfortunately we'll only know at Hit's death.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Fri May 11, 2007 1:16 pm

wicked wrote:Same old annoying Mandy. :roll:

This game is not Sherwood... and your assumptions are still incorrect on that game, but I can't elaborate b/c it's not over.

Anyone who's any good at mafia would be leery of any cop claim, hence my questions. You obviously haven't played a lot of mafia if you don't get that.

I'm pretty sure you're scum Mandy, but the vote probably won't go your way today. The fact you're so quick to want to lynch Nag if his read is incorrect is further proof of that. It also makes me further doubt Nag's read of Hitman as scum, but unfortunately we'll only know at Hit's death.


I don't want to lynch Nag. And, if hitman turns out to be scumm, I won't have to hunt him down like false-claiming coyote. :twisted:
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Postby freezie on Fri May 11, 2007 1:18 pm

We cannot beleive or disbeleive Nagerous that soon yet. He claimed an investigation from a jack-of-all-trades role, with the character of Homer Simpson.

He claimed hitman turned out scum, therefor the only way to get useful informations is to lynch Hitman.


But multiple situations could come in anyway:

-Someone else claim Homer Simson character. Then we have another lead as who between them could be a scum ( nag or the other claimer.)

Hitman gets very good evidence he isn't a scum, then Nag is the scum.

-Nagerous gets wrong actions at night. He could well have targetted a townie that turned out scum. In this case, he won't be useful to the town if he tries another action but will screw that up because he is Homer.

-Nagerous is scum and is trying to lynch a cop/doc.



It's still too early to know exactly what the situation we are in, but we got to search some evidences, and one of the best/easiest way would be to lynch Hitman, UNLESS he starts talking and show something. Then we can either lynch Nag or any other that looks scummy.

We have a lead for now, and we should follow it until someone gets up and place a rock in our gears.
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