New Briarsburg Mafia. Town Wins! Ga7 wins the premium prize!

[spiesr]

Punisher kills the first role claim of the day when the night round starts.

I don't know if such a role has ever been used on this site. I doubt there would be one in this game. The only scenario I could think of were Squirrel would put one in is if he wanted to troll us. It sounds interesting and could definitely change the dynamics of the game if it became somewhat common on this site. Here roleclaims happen like everyday and are a major part of the default town strategy. Anyhow, I am getting off topic here...

[VioIet]

THis theory and maybe stop skimming as Herk just mentioned what a punisher was.

FOS: vio for skimming.

Strikewolf, you could look at the time of my post before you accuse me of skimming. I was fastposted by all of you. I have read each post about as thoroughly as I can.

I wouldn't really call that a theory. I was simply guessing what roles there could be. Do to the sheer number, two different mafia factions and a third party seem very likely. However you do make a good point when you state that if a game did contain multiple mafia factions- it would have been advertised.
But then it could also be one of the twists.

[theherkman]

I have completely dedicated myself to not being the newb here. I'm trying to analyze posts and go back and reread. To be honest, in my rereading of this thread I have found sensfan to be the absolute scummiest. More so than daze was before her claim. (Still waiting to hear her finish the doc explanation.) His posts are below. I'm tired of vote switching and not being sure, so I think we should talk this one out and hear sensfan's defense for his behavior first. He has not contributed ANY useful posts. He has voted for no reason other than "annoyance factor". And has not removed his vote or posted since with the exception of this last post saying he would be out of town until today. This reeks of scum.

Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

absent until sunday.

VOTE COUNT please

dazer is just being annyoning

vote dazer

vote sensfan for voting myself

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The link given when I asked what omgus was led me to a mafia wiki and I perused for quite some time.

I'm not sure I understand, even if you read the whole site top to bottom a search reveals there are exactly three mentions of the word "punisher"
one is describing the marvel vigilante (a serial killer), another describes a vague role that could be anything preventing a game breaker mechanic and the third is the role you mention buried in a huge post of modding tips, the quote is as follows

"An interesting subversion in making massclaiming a player-side problem is including a player-side solution. In two of the extremely role-heavy Mind Screw games by Tarhalindur, a non-Town player was given an ability that enabled them to kill players that had revealed any of their ability titles inthread. In the case of the linked game, the "Punisher" role went on to win the game. "

this is hardly enough information to draw this detailed role description

Punisher kills the first role claim of the day when the night round starts.

could you possibly show me where on the wiki the exact nature of the claim (first of the day) and time of kill (night) is found?

[Fircoal]

Punisher kills the first role claim of the day when the night round starts.

I don't know if such a role has ever been used on this site. I doubt there would be one in this game. The only scenario I could think of were Squirrel would put one in is if he wanted to troll us. It sounds interesting and could definitely change the dynamics of the game if it became somewhat common on this site. Here roleclaims happen like everyday and are a major part of the default town strategy. Anyhow, I am getting off topic here...

I doubt cute fuzzy wuzzy Squirrlykins is trolling us. Especially since there is a premium prize attached to it. Most mods don't put in roles like that or try to troll their players. That is left open for people like me, who let people lynch people who aren't even in the game :3 Anyway, I really doubt that it's going to show up.

[theherkman]

I thought it was on this page, but upon rescanning it I don't see where it is... I will look a little more and see where I saw that.

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... ique_Roles

[theherkman]

Okay, I looked. Can't find it. It might have been in the forum at mafiascum but to be honest maybe I got the role from another site. It was on a page with rules advising mods not to ban roleclaiming because they can always use the punisher role. idk

[theherkman]

Note that post restrictions, preventing people from talking about their Role PM, or otherwise making it against the rules to attempt a massclaim are terrible ideas that should not be attempted. This is essentially pushing the mod-side problem of making a setup that can be broken onto the players. Townies will get very frustrated when they learn that the tactic they can use to solve the game through flavor analysis or Night actions (which ordinarily they can do) is specifically unavailable to them, and clever Townies will find ways around whatever arbitrary post restrictions you set. An interesting subversion in making massclaiming a player-side problem is including a player-side solution. In two of the extremely role-heavy Mind Screw games by Tarhalindur, a non-Town player was given an ability that enabled them to kill players that had revealed any of their ability titles inthread. In the case of the linked game, the "Punisher" role went on to win the game.

I read through some of the mindscrew games where this role was explained. Basically the mindscrew games are just large NV games like this one.

[ga7]

Lulz.

Of all the players here, you, ga7, who post this....I am disapointed. there is 30 players Non-Vanilla game. I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were 2 roleblockers, heck 3 out there. With 30 power roles, probably half action based, a few roleblockers would seems fitting. Unless you want other roleblockers to claim......scummy scummy.

Alright hombre, I defy you. Find one game that is not a faction game and where there are 2 Town Roleblockers. Pretty sure I'd win that wager
Some roles have close powers but a pure Roleblocker is in no way often doubled even in big games.

Which brings me to the point Spiesr partially answered when Vio suggested there's two of everything... It is giving our mod very little credit to think there could be such unoriginal answers to "What's the role list of a 30p game".We can expect original roles, obscure roles, varying sanities, etc. I doubt we'll see any of the more random roles from MS personally because well... They really suck, especially if you compare them to some of the roles that were created here But using MS as a resource is fine for classic roles, not for the extra ones they put IMO, they're usually only used by people who modded in MS or noob mods. I'm fairly certain Mr S is neither.

Anyway, the fact we hit such a classic town role in the first roleclaim is rather unlucky, I don't know if pressing an inactive is that good an idea since some of them gave notice of their temp absence and others will eventually be replaced I assume. (IE I call the first replace after I'm NKed )

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I have completely dedicated myself to not being the newb here.

oh the lulz.

-Tails

[karelpietertje]

I'm glad we didn't lynch a town 'something with a doctor'...
As for the votes that were made in the early stages of Day 1, it's about time to remove them. sensfan, but also Fircoal, I don't think there's any LULZ in those votes.

[edocsil]

Anyone else still curious how the hell herk knew there could be a punisher? It is one of the most obscure roles in the game

[strike wolf]

Well going back through his early posts. His first post showed he at least had some basic knowledge of cops and doctors coming into the game. Shortly after he mentioned that this was his first mafia game online. So he does possibly have more history in mafia than he has let on just on a different stage. I also don't like how he has for a large part of the game just echoed town sentiment. I do like that he went out of his way to make an extensive about specific activity in the game. But other than that he hasn't taken much of his own initiative except for trying to raise suspicion against anyone who has voted for him or questioned his logic (aog and commander)

[FloresDelMal]

Okie dokey!!! Ya’ll just wanna lynch me for information.

Seriously ya’ll don’t wanna lynch me.

Flores and Haggis

F*** you for sayin even if I’m a townie, I have nothin to offer.

Sounds like you two are in cahoots with the mob.

Why would anyone in their right mind wanna lynch a townie?
If I’m lynched and ya’ll see I’m town- there are your two mobsters right there- Flores and Haggis.

FOS Flores and Haggis.

yeah you are right, posts like this are so amazingly well thought that i dont know how we could get over such a great loss, stop of being a PITA and claim you dimwitted blond.

oh and btw please replace me, i cant take anymore the torture of play such a boring eternal day 1

[theherkman]

Anyone else still curious how the hell herk knew there could be a punisher? It is one of the most obscure roles in the game

You've been skimming a lot. I don't know, I mentioned that there might be. I've also provided links to where I've read it.

Well going back through his early posts. His first post showed he at least had some basic knowledge of cops and doctors coming into the game. Shortly after he mentioned that this was his first mafia game online. So he does possibly have more history in mafia than he has let on just on a different stage. I also don't like how he has for a large part of the game just echoed town sentiment. I do like that he went out of his way to make an extensive about specific activity in the game. But other than that he hasn't taken much of his own initiative except for trying to raise suspicion against anyone who has voted for him or questioned his logic (aog and commander)

True, I do know how to play, but it's a different dynamic playing online. More thought I think. It seems to me that there is more random blundering and less thought to games played in-person. It has also been a great number of years since my last game. I used to play as a young teen on church road trips. It was all we did. We made up our own flavors/factions/roles/everything and played for hours on end, game after game. Anyway, I digress. I'm not voting AOG again out of spite or commander for his nonsense... I have no FOS at AOG, and a strong one at commander, but I am not convinced he is scum.

And i do try. Do you know how long those linkys took? Hehe a long ass time.

[TheSaxlad]

Anyone else still curious how the hell herk knew there could be a punisher? It is one of the most obscure roles in the game

You've been skimming a lot. I don't know, I mentioned that there might be. I've also provided links to where I've read it.

Well going back through his early posts. His first post showed he at least had some basic knowledge of cops and doctors coming into the game. Shortly after he mentioned that this was his first mafia game online. So he does possibly have more history in mafia than he has let on just on a different stage. I also don't like how he has for a large part of the game just echoed town sentiment. I do like that he went out of his way to make an extensive about specific activity in the game. But other than that he hasn't taken much of his own initiative except for trying to raise suspicion against anyone who has voted for him or questioned his logic (aog and commander)

True, I do know how to play, but it's a different dynamic playing online. More thought I think. It seems to me that there is more random blundering and less thought to games played in-person. It has also been a great number of years since my last game. I used to play as a young teen on church road trips. It was all we did. We made up our own flavors/factions/roles/everything and played for hours on end, game after game. Anyway, I digress. I'm not voting AOG again out of spite or commander for his nonsense... I have no FOS at AOG, and a strong one at commander, but I am not convinced he is scum.

And i do try. Do you know how long those linkys took? Hehe a long ass time.

so spending all your time trying to persuade us your not scum, by leading us off on the completely wrong track?

Small FOS herkman.

[TheSaxlad]

EBWOP:

Although squirrel did say this in his previous thread.

[quote="Mr.Squirrel]made a couple new roles[/quote]

[TheSaxlad]

EBWOP2:

made a couple new roles

[Jace22]

Sorry for not posting lately, I've just been busy and also haven't really had much to add. I'll buy the roleblocker role for now, so unvote dazey. Though it may not be my brightest idea, I think we should put some pressure on the inactives so at the very least they are actually part of the discussion, so I'm moving my vote over to lala. vote lala

[theherkman]

Sorry for not posting lately, I've just been busy and also haven't really had much to add. I'll buy the roleblocker role for now, so unvote dazey. Though it may not be my brightest idea, I think we should put some pressure on the inactives so at the very least they are actually part of the discussion, so I'm moving my vote over to lala. vote lala

Personally, I will not believe her until a cop clears her.

[freezie]

yeah you are right, posts like this are so amazingly well thought that i dont know how we could get over such a great loss, stop of being a PITA and claim you dimwitted blond.

oh and btw please replace me, i cant take anymore the torture of play such a boring eternal day 1

She claimed a good 7 pages ago ( more or less one, mind ya .)
I partly agree she wouldn't be THAT much of a great loss. However with that post I beleive you would be the greatest of all

vote: Flores

Replace? We already have Mandy who hasn't been replaced yet. A second one will hamper us even more.

[freezie]

Alright hombre, I defy you. Find one game that is not a faction game and where there are 2 Town Roleblockers. Pretty sure I'd win that wager

If you think am gonna look at every games played on cc for that bet, you're crazy.

However I beleive my hunch that there is at least 2 roleblockers here. So why don't we keep this bet for this game's endgame, big boy?

[nagerous]

Sorry for not posting lately, I've just been busy and also haven't really had much to add. I'll buy the roleblocker role for now, so unvote dazey. Though it may not be my brightest idea, I think we should put some pressure on the inactives so at the very least they are actually part of the discussion, so I'm moving my vote over to lala. vote lala

Personally, I will not believe her until a cop clears her.

Would be a wasted investigation imo.

[Victor Sullivan]

I have to agree with Flores at this point, Day 1 is going for far too long. The only problem is, I DON'T KNOW WHO TO F-ING VOTE FOR. I REALLY wanna vote for herk, because he's honestly being a pain in my ass (and many others I'm sure). Your incessant posting is driving me crazy, and little of it means anything at all. As I said before, I don't think you're mafia and for that I won't vote for you, as it'd be foolish to vote for someone I think is town, but please, have mercy...

[VioIet]

yeah you are right, posts like this are so amazingly well thought that i dont know how we could get over such a great loss, stop of being a PITA and claim you dimwitted blond.

oh and btw please replace me, i cant take anymore the torture of play such a boring eternal day 1

Whoa!! I highly take offense to that post flores.

Classless post from you- I really expected better from you.
Completely unnecessary.

This is a game. Its supposed to be fun. Then why all the name calling?
I can understand people saying things like- that is flawed logic, ridiculous theory, dumb idea. But no need to call the actual person dumb, idiot, etc. I tend to foe people for such rudeness.
Please lets keep this game nice and fun.

I pray Dazey doesn't see that post, as she is extra sensitive right now, and really doesn't need the added stress. And you already know that flores.

You are usually quite pleasant- so don't understand where that came from. You are disrespecting her because she FOS you? Is no one allowed to FOS you in this game?

Also it is obvious from your post- that you just did not read the last five pages of this thread. If you had, you would know that she claimed already, and that most of the town has since moved on. Why did you not read? Surely a townie would be interested in reading what has been going on.

If this game is boring you and you want to be replaced- i think its a great idea. No one should have to play a game that is boring them- it should be fun. Also I would prefer someone to play with a more pleasant attitude.

Here let me help to end your misery.

Unvote. Vote Flores