Civilization Mafia - Town Victory!

[nagerous]

Secondly strike I am not sure what you mean by my defence? The character question was another test for benga which he failed by not answering it/dodging it. I was actually trying to help him out as if he wasn't lying which he clearly is he would have been able to give an answer to my 'character' question for which I used a deliberately ambiguous word. Again anyone who is town should be able to infer what I am referring to here and there is no necessity to spell it out for people at this stage in the game

Strike meant to bring this up day 2 but forgot can you explain to me why you found my mention of character suspicious - was this a calculated risk based on Tim and wing's comments? I didn't say anything at the time but as is obvious now everyone has a character with their nation. I was wondering if benga would say something like Boudicca but he failed my test

[nagerous]

Secondly strike I am not sure what you mean by my defence? The character question was another test for benga which he failed by not answering it/dodging it. I was actually trying to help him out as if he wasn't lying which he clearly is he would have been able to give an answer to my 'character' question for which I used a deliberately ambiguous word. Again anyone who is town should be able to infer what I am referring to here and there is no necessity to spell it out for people at this stage in the game

Strike meant to bring this up day 2 but forgot can you explain to me why you found my mention of character suspicious - was this a calculated risk based on Tim and wing's comments? I didn't say anything at the time but as is obvious now everyone has a character with their nation. I was wondering if benga would say something like Boudicca but he failed my test

And yes I could have said leader but as advised previously it was me being ambiguous in case he came back with some shit like industrious

[madmitch]

I also am not to sure about telling everyone what you build, Brothel = hooker, hunting lodge = tracker, or maybe the lodge part could be cult or mason involved

[Skittles!]

Basically from my perspective hotshot is scum and it will take a lot to convince me otherwise and potentially skittles forthcoming testimony.. I don't need to vote him however at this stage to prove I was on the lynch. I will however vote him perhaps later in the day if required but I think anyone who is also his scum partner must vote him at this stage so anyone getting their votes in now to look more town look suspicious in my eyes.

As you already built a brothel as well, I would like to know what action you took also. However someone may have already mentioned it and you have kept quiet on why you went for that person, unless there are numerous people who decided to build brothels because, uh, duh, brothels are fun.

In any case, I role blocked ga7. Reasoning - he has been suspicious in my eyes the whole game, with a couple of slips, and has been scumarining like hell. If no one else apart from nagerous built a brothel, then there must be a reason why there weren't any kills last night. It's too early to have a hospital, so no doctors etc (I'm assuming that's what it gives you).

Secondly strike I am not sure what you mean by my defence? The character question was another test for benga which he failed by not answering it/dodging it. I was actually trying to help him out as if he wasn't lying which he clearly is he would have been able to give an answer to my 'character' question for which I used a deliberately ambiguous word. Again anyone who is town should be able to infer what I am referring to here and there is no necessity to spell it out for people at this stage in the game

Strike meant to bring this up day 2 but forgot can you explain to me why you found my mention of character suspicious - was this a calculated risk based on Tim and wing's comments? I didn't say anything at the time but as is obvious now everyone has a character with their nation. I was wondering if benga would say something like Boudicca but he failed my test

My character was not given a name, just the nation I am playing as. I would never have figured out what the portrait is unless I googled it. Why do you think everyone would know their character? Again, highly suss nag.

I'm not overly concerned with how fircoal is gathering information right now, as it could lead to important leaps for the town imo.

Dakky voting hotshot saying that if he flips town we should look for those who voted for both Aage and hotshot seems terrible to me.

Because it is terrible, and lazy. Do you have any other thoughts or leads, or just going to comment on other people?

[nagerous]

I blocked hotshot bro that is why I have become more convinced he is scum.

Interesting that you blocked ga7 however and makes me want to know what ga7 did in the previous night phase seeing as we are all sharing here.

Seems Tim Woodbury may have been blocked too seeing as his night action failed

[HotShot53]

The Mitch case is empty. He showed that he had knowledge of how constructing works earlier and being nonspecific about it now doesn't change things.

Hotshot speed hammering Aage was scummy and I have to think he knew it was scummy. Either he thought Aage might actually be scum in which case, convince us or he he felt he was sunk if he didn't finish it. The latter strikes me as more of a scum attitude. Town wins by keeping strong players alive to figure out the scum. Scum wins by keeping themselves alive even if just for a night.

Turns out I didn't even need to vote to lynch Aage yesterday, as the countdown clock would have done the job anyway... and yes, I was just trying to survive, as survival is my only goal. I doubt it will stop me from getting lynched today, but I'll claim for the fun of it. Blocking me did nothing, since I have no actions, I am Montezuma II of Aztec, a third party survivor just trying to stay out of the way of all you warmongering countries on the other side of the ocean.

That is why I believed benga on day one, since I have no more idea about mechanics than he apparently did, and I don't know enough about Civ to know how bad his claim was.

[madmitch]

@ Hotshot ,you are most likely Cortez of Spain, but by research you found out about Montezuma

[dakky21]

for some reason i believe hotshot and for some reason i still think skoffin is scum.

check her posts and how many times she mentions "town" ... beneficiary to town, knows too much about town to be scum, risking hidden war effect for town, etc etc. and the latest one, me and mitch being dangerous for .. you guess... town.

IMO Skoffin is scum, hotshot claimed, so...

unvote, vote Skoffin

[strike wolf]

So your character who is described on the Civ 6 wiki as a nation leader who is aggressive and out for expansion is just a third party...

@Nag: I don't know what I could really tell you that can't already be inferred from scenes and Skittles comment. no character is named but there is a picture with a famous person from my nation's history.

Also where did I state I would get back into it day 2? I don't remember that.

[Fircoal]

Tim, what did you try to do last night?

I'm curious as to why Chu is asking about your buildings however; care to elaborate, Fircoal?

No.

Will not say the action so skim don't know what actions we have but I have a hunting lodge built. I get the point of why hotshot is on the chopping block but with the countdown clock I'd rather not just throw votes on people especially after yesterday.

Who did you target?

[Fircoal]

The Mitch case is empty. He showed that he had knowledge of how constructing works earlier and being nonspecific about it now doesn't change things.

Hotshot speed hammering Aage was scummy and I have to think he knew it was scummy. Either he thought Aage might actually be scum in which case, convince us or he he felt he was sunk if he didn't finish it. The latter strikes me as more of a scum attitude. Town wins by keeping strong players alive to figure out the scum. Scum wins by keeping themselves alive even if just for a night.

Turns out I didn't even need to vote to lynch Aage yesterday, as the countdown clock would have done the job anyway... and yes, I was just trying to survive, as survival is my only goal. I doubt it will stop me from getting lynched today, but I'll claim for the fun of it. Blocking me did nothing, since I have no actions, I am Montezuma II of Aztec, a third party survivor just trying to stay out of the way of all you warmongering countries on the other side of the ocean.

That is why I believed benga on day one, since I have no more idea about mechanics than he apparently did, and I don't know enough about Civ to know how bad his claim was.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Vote: Hotshot

[Fircoal]

The Mitch case is empty. He showed that he had knowledge of how constructing works earlier and being nonspecific about it now doesn't change things.

Hotshot speed hammering Aage was scummy and I have to think he knew it was scummy. Either he thought Aage might actually be scum in which case, convince us or he he felt he was sunk if he didn't finish it. The latter strikes me as more of a scum attitude. Town wins by keeping strong players alive to figure out the scum. Scum wins by keeping themselves alive even if just for a night.

Turns out I didn't even need to vote to lynch Aage yesterday, as the countdown clock would have done the job anyway... and yes, I was just trying to survive, as survival is my only goal. I doubt it will stop me from getting lynched today, but I'll claim for the fun of it. Blocking me did nothing, since I have no actions, I am Montezuma II of Aztec, a third party survivor just trying to stay out of the way of all you warmongering countries on the other side of the ocean.

That is why I believed benga on day one, since I have no more idea about mechanics than he apparently did, and I don't know enough about Civ to know how bad his claim was.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Vote: Hotshot

OH GOSH THIS GOT EVEN FUNNIER.

I highly doubt the Masket would choose to put both some random dude of Aztec and the Aztec Nation both in the same game. (And on different sides too!) So you're pretty clearly lying through your teeth. Have fun being dead.

[TimWoodbury]

I blocked hotshot bro that is why I have become more convinced he is scum.

Interesting that you blocked ga7 however and makes me want to know what ga7 did in the previous night phase seeing as we are all sharing here.

Seems Tim Woodbury may have been blocked too seeing as his night action failed

i attempted to track GA7

[strike wolf]

So your character who is described on the Civ 6 wiki as a nation leader who is aggressive and out for expansion is just a third party...

@Nag: I don't know what I could really tell you that can't already be inferred from scenes and Skittles comment. no character is named but there is a picture with a famous person from my nation's history.

Also where did I state I would get back into it day 2? I don't remember that.

Since I missed the full point of Nag's question. You mentioned character, it seemed possible (and i think this is what Wing most likely noted) that you thought characters were mentioned by name in the role pm. Obviously I never took it that seriously or I would have at the least dropped an FOS.

[strike wolf]

for some reason i believe hotshot and for some reason i still think skoffin is scum.

check her posts and how many times she mentions "town" ... beneficiary to town, knows too much about town to be scum, risking hidden war effect for town, etc etc. and the latest one, me and mitch being dangerous for .. you guess... town.

IMO Skoffin is scum, hotshot claimed, so...

unvote, vote Skoffin

I don't trust Skoffin fully. She acted coy seemingly knowing about the build mechanic day 1 but as mentioned Mitch had already dropped the ball on that to anyone paying enough attention.

On the other hand, you do seem to have just followed the wagon just to unvote as soon as Hotshot claimed. Just a bit scummy.

[Samlen]

The aztec's are known for being extremely aggressive, hardly likely to be a passive survivor. Also no actions feels a little weird in a game like this. You claim to be a civ yet can't build? Your whole claim feels off in general and I've already done my spiel on why I don't like letting survivors live so the only downside of lynching you now is that we loose some valuable discussion by ending the day quickly (which likely won't end for a few days, which is why I'm fine with a vote right now).
Vote Hotshot
Ninja'd by strike

[ga7]

Ok I give up, Skoffin mentioned too that it wasn't a good idea to rush but you people always do that. Obviously Hotshot is the lynch but it only helps scum to have short days, please let this get into your brains instead of wagonning like your life depends on it.
On that note, Vote Hotshot

Skittles, your hooker kept me company in my bunker, I appreciate it

[Ragian]

@Skittles! You're fishing for a lot of information. What do you mean by asking if I have any leads? Do you mean hard facts from investigations, blocks, or what not? If I don't comment on people's actions, it's not put on record. These comments turn into cases with time.

Well, going off Chu's post, we've found a liar.

Turns out I didn't even need to vote to lynch Aage yesterday, as the countdown clock would have done the job anyway... and yes, I was just trying to survive, as survival is my only goal. I doubt it will stop me from getting lynched today, but I'll claim for the fun of it. Blocking me did nothing, since I have no actions, I am Montezuma II of Aztec, a third party survivor just trying to stay out of the way of all you warmongering countries on the other side of the ocean.

That is why I believed benga on day one, since I have no more idea about mechanics than he apparently did, and I don't know enough about Civ to know how bad his claim was.

OH GOSH THIS GOT EVEN FUNNIER.

I highly doubt the Masket would choose to put both some random dude of Aztec and the Aztec Nation both in the same game. (And on different sides too!) So you're pretty clearly lying through your teeth. Have fun being dead.

Vote hotshot

[Skittles!]

@Skittles! You're fishing for a lot of information. What do you mean by asking if I have any leads? Do you mean hard facts from investigations, blocks, or what not? If I don't comment on people's actions, it's not put on record. These comments turn into cases with time.

Just want to hear your thoughts on what has been said throughout the day. However you are right, comments can become cases.

Also, vote hotshot. Counter-claimed and trying to be a survivor... mafia get better.

[Samlen]

I just realized I completely misread a couple of things. Hotshot tried to claim to be JUST a person from Aztec and Fircoal claimed to be the Aztecs. I also realized how relatively obscure hotshot tried to go with that claim, considering Montezuma the SECOND is part of the Civilization Revolution version, a version more closely related to the 4th civ than the more current 5th and 6th versions (I'm pretty sure this game is based off of the 5th one). Gonna have to read better to not miss anything actually important >,<

Liiittle weird that ga preaches slower playing but votes right away. Obvious lynch is obvious but if you wanted more discussion, why not create it instead of speeding up the lynch?

[TimWoodbury]

Well guess hotshots the lunch vote hotshot

[Skoffin]

I starting to worry about Skoffin now, I think skoffin was just repeating the word wonder to seem town, that remark of all getting together to build a mega brothel instead of the wonder makes me think skoffin does not know our objectives and building rules

The mega-Brothel thing was, what I thought, obviously a joke. I know plenty about building rules, I am the best builder. No one builds like I do. You could call me Bron The Builder. (Not to be confused with Bran The Builder)

And also completely Tim Woodbury's fault.

Also skoffin may not talk like a barbarian but has offered nothing to suggest she is not a barbarian. It may be nice to rag against Mitch but remember the guy all but blurted out his town PM day one so looks pretty clearly town.

Someone else suggested the same thing, but I'm only quoting you here.
Easy to rag on mitch - yes. In this case in my rush I forgot entirely of mitch's earlier claims in the first place. Regardless, I do believe I have said enough to show I do in fact have town knowledge. My whole topic of vigs and my belief that we could obtain vig abilities illustrates it. Since we are all apparently blurting out buildings anyway, I thought the hunting lodge or the arsenal *might* enable one to take an offensive action on another player.

for some reason i believe hotshot and for some reason i still think skoffin is scum.

check her posts and how many times she mentions "town" ... beneficiary to town, knows too much about town to be scum, risking hidden war effect for town, etc etc. and the latest one, me and mitch being dangerous for .. you guess... town.

IMO Skoffin is scum, hotshot claimed, so...

unvote, vote Skoffin

Can't help but notice that you have declared me scum, along with 'believing hotshot' instantly, after I named you as a top suspect. What's the deal, gov'nah?
Is your argument legitimately "She used the word town too much"? Or was this just the most convenient topic change? Now on the off-chance you are actually town and have misunderstood me, a lot of those earlier posts and phrasing were meant as tongue-in-cheek. My 'I'm the pro-town hero" spiel was not to be taken seriously.


In any case, I do believe it's clear that hotshot is scum so, TO THE GALLOWS!

VOTE HOTSHOT

[nagerous]

vote hotshot not that it is required, the evidence is so compelling, the innocent Montezuma just trying to survive...


Just went to check skoffin to see if you were the first person to mention arsenal, but samlen got there first in responding to a comment to you on day one about buildings for pro-town players .

Either way you raise some interesting points about dakky, may have to re read.

[nagerous]

So your character who is described on the Civ 6 wiki as a nation leader who is aggressive and out for expansion is just a third party...

@Nag: I don't know what I could really tell you that can't already be inferred from scenes and Skittles comment. no character is named but there is a picture with a famous person from my nation's history.

Also where did I state I would get back into it day 2? I don't remember that.

Sorry I meant to say I would raise this again day 2 and forgot. I just felt you jumped on me for mentioning the characters we all have linked to our nations as part of my push against benga and I understand some are pretty obscure so people wouldn't necessarily recognise them so can see why skittles thinks my comments were suss.. It is my mistake for skimming, my nation leader is super famous.

[strike wolf]

So your character who is described on the Civ 6 wiki as a nation leader who is aggressive and out for expansion is just a third party...

@Nag: I don't know what I could really tell you that can't already be inferred from scenes and Skittles comment. no character is named but there is a picture with a famous person from my nation's history.

Also where did I state I would get back into it day 2? I don't remember that.

Sorry I meant to say I would raise this again day 2 and forgot. I just felt you jumped on me for mentioning the characters we all have linked to our nations as part of my push against benga and I understand some are pretty obscure so people wouldn't necessarily recognise them so can see why skittles thinks my comments were suss.. It is my mistake for skimming, my nation leader is super famous.

To be fair, I was being fairly widely questioning against a lot of people on day 1. The exception mostly being mitch, Tim and Ga7 (for different reasons) and people I had a town read early like Rage and Aage (initially).