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Postby Machiavelli on Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:41 pm

Wow... :(

This game must have more noobs in it than the last one.:roll:

The town has only one power, that is to lynch whoever they think is mafia.

Think about the situatution, if we keep just voting for a no lynch everyday, then it is not even possible for the town to win.

I would like to further add that it is very scummy to vote no lynch. It is forgivable for new people, who havent played before, but last game, for the short time he was alive, Max apparently knew how regular mafia games functioned.


Here is how games usually start out, everyone talks and people make random votes,just to get the game going. Max did just that. It is true that we have practically nothing to go on day one but everyone has to talk, so that the mafia will make a slip-up.

I think that we may have already had our slip-up, and that being said...

Vote: Max is Gr8
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Postby DRoZ on Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:54 pm

I'll unvote just to make ya happy mach ... but what slip-up are you refering to.
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Postby Haydena on Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:00 pm

Well, I don't know... I think we need to establish something, killing off one person at least narrows it down... I think I may unvote as well
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Postby Machiavelli on Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:04 pm

I really am not at all positive about Max but from the way he played in his last game I would assume that he knows better than to vote no lynch.


I read through it really quickly so I'll have a reread before I say more.
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Postby Machiavelli on Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:09 pm

I feel stupid :shock:


I thought that max was the one who started the no lynch thing.:oops:


Carry on...
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Postby DRoZ on Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:09 pm

I just want to reiterate that I don't agree with killing off someone when probability tells me it's going to be a townie, but if you guys think it's best to kill off someone then I don't wan't to be in the way.
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Postby DRoZ on Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:11 pm

nope it was me.
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Postby DRoZ on Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:12 pm

... but haydena... why do you keep repeating me...
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Postby Machiavelli on Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:19 pm

Hoff wrote:how you doing mach



Not to shabby. You? 8)



pilate065 wrote:Well, I am not one of the mafia.



I am not going to read into it to much because you are apparently new to the game but most of the time it is scum who say things like "I'm not the mafia" when no one has accused them.

DRoZ wrote:... here's a question ... did the mafia pick Mr. Dexter or was it random ...


The mafia get to choose.

jay_a2j wrote:
Haydena wrote:
No point this early on, just leaves another townie ,something we don't want...less numbers early on...



just saying that haydena.... mafia might say that to throw the townies off. hmmmmm



I want in next game!



This is what we call a WIFOM argument. It stands for Wine In Front Of Me (Coming from the princess bride) and it is bad. If we all played this way then it would be a complete guessing game.
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Postby Machiavelli on Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:22 pm

DRoZ wrote:nope it was me.



Have you ever played mafia before?
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Postby DRoZ on Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:23 pm

nope ... just followed along at the last one on this forum.
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Postby Machiavelli on Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:40 pm

OK, I was just making sure that you didnt know what you were doing.


If you had played the game before than I would vote for you, but I think everyone who voted no lynch just didnt understand the strategy of the game yet, so they are all pardoned IMO
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:44 pm

Well jeez if we are all going to jump ship, I'll unvote also. I'll go back to that website and read more about the rules, and look at a few other games.


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Postby Machiavelli on Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:00 pm

Banana Stomper wrote:yo yo yo, folks. Lets get this show on the road!



Why dont you say something productive then? :roll:
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Postby Acropolis on Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:43 pm

okay, I'm looking at it like this, and since I don't have as much info as I'd like I'll try to make the best guess possible. So far we have a couple of people who wanted no lynch, and to me that imediatly points out that either they are scum or they are newbs like me and afraid of weakening us early on.
As it has been stated before, lynching is a townies only real power, so we need to do it, if for no other reason than to get the information provided there by. Yes, we have the chance of lynching a fellow townie and the odds are actually pointing that way, but if we don't do something we are killed off one by one anyways, so I'll vote: Haydena.
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Postby Banana Stomper on Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:53 pm

Machiavelli wrote:
Banana Stomper wrote:yo yo yo, folks. Lets get this show on the road!



Why dont you say something productive then? :roll:


just to clear up possible confusion about that statement, it was excitement, not impatience.

I just got back from work, and now i shall say something productive (even though its based on things said on the third page)

ok, all i've read so far is all of this no lynching business on the third page. And i must say, i'm not a fan of it. Maybe there's something i don't know about the game, but if no one is lynched today, then we still won't know anything tomorrow except some person who was a townie who is dead now. What are we supposed to learn from letting the mafia just kill us all of in our sleep without making some sort of effort(as uneducated as it may be)?
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Postby DRoZ on Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:57 pm

Look I never said that I would vote no lynch every day ... just the first day, the way I figure it someone is going to die tonight, we would get more information the following day, at least something of a pattern may arise and lead to a more informed decision, but since everyone just wants to vote for someone I guess my pick would be Haydena, mainly because he keeps repeating me. I know its not exactly a valid reason to want to kill someone, and I really dont think he is mafia, but its the only behavior I have seen so far to make me not trust their opinion. Besides maybe his defense could lead to more clues. Sorry Haydena but...

vote: Haydena
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Postby Banana Stomper on Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:07 pm

i'm just saying that the only information that will arise will be another person who is a townie....and they're dead already...

I don't know what kind of pattern we could possibly come up with cause whoever is in the mafia knows nothing more than we do, save who they themselves are, so their kills are nearly as random as ours.
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Postby dagreatbroomhead on Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:08 pm

Vote Count:

Max is gr8: 1 (mach)
Haydena: 2 (Acropolis, DRoZ)

Not voting:Haydena, PainBrain, Darkfire001, pilate065, Banana Stomper, AndyDufresne, Hoff, Max is gr8
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Postby Banana Stomper on Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:16 pm

I don't know, to me it seamed odd how quickly that no vote thing came about. I mean, right off the bat, nothing of substance said so far, and DRoZ was ready to cast away the towns person's only saving grace? Rookie move or rookie mistake? First time playing or not, i don't know, i don't like it, and i choose the latter vote: DRoZ
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Postby Haydena on Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:58 pm

Banana Stomper wrote:i'm just saying that the only information that will arise will be another person who is a townie....and they're dead already...

I don't know what kind of pattern we could possibly come up with cause whoever is in the mafia knows nothing more than we do, save who they themselves are, so their kills are nearly as random as ours.


I think that makes a lot of sense...

I just had it in my head no lynch would be a good thing, I guess now I was kinda wrong.

And DroZ, I was not following along and repeating you, ok, maybe in the first no lynch vote, but now I see that was a worthless vote and so felt it best to unvote before we hear more evidence.

There isn't really much to go on at the beginning, but that vote was as acropolis said, a newb playing who didn't want to weaken us at the start, seeing as the only thing I can really say is that I'm not mafia and I know it, there isn't much to defend myself with.

Because we need a majority and I'm guessing you can't vote to lynch yourself I think I want to vote: DroZ

*sigh*... I can see my foolheardeness getting me lynched very quickly in this game :?
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Postby Pilate on Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:45 am

I vote DroZ

However, can somebody explain to me the benefits of voting someone out? What are the things people will say?
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Postby Banana Stomper on Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:27 am

the benefits of voting someone out are that you will either get someone in the mafia. In which case you are one step closer to victory. If you lynch a towns person, then you might be able to deduce who is in the mafia from the goings on leading up to the lynching and then who is killed by the mafia in the night
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Postby Machiavelli on Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:47 am

DRoZ wrote:Look I never said that I would vote no lynch every day ... just the first day, the way I figure it someone is going to die tonight, we would get more information the following day, at least something of a pattern may arise and lead to a more informed decision,



So you did think about what you were doing? I thought that you didnt understand the game, and it was a noob mistake.

Your logic above is garbage. What pattern is it that you think will arise? And even if we do find out a pattern how will that helps us find the scum?


I am leaning towards voting you, but I will hold off until I hear your answers.
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Postby Machiavelli on Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:50 am

pilate065 wrote:I vote DroZ

However, can somebody explain to me the benefits of voting someone out? What are the things people will say?



I dont have a problem with you voting DroZ, because he has been the scummiest player thus far, but when you vote you should probably state your reasons, or at least say something like "Due to the above stated reassons..."


Just trying to help the game. :wink:
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