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Postby willis on Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:30 pm

Hehehe, my brain is not working right now, so I'll just ask.

Would technology be good or bad in this setting?
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Postby Syzygy on Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:51 pm

0ojakeo0 wrote:if the roleblocker roleblocked he ould kno the mafia right?unle the doc aved u


Wait up. Who is this 'u' you are referring to?

The mafia's target maybe? How would you know who it was?

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Postby Syzygy on Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:54 pm

willis wrote:Hehehe, my brain is not working right now, so I'll just ask.

Would technology be good or bad in this setting?


I would guess bad, with all the cries of, "The devil's work", "Foul Machinations" and "What evil witchcraft is this?".

The church didn't like free thinkers. Though bad is just a guess.
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Postby The1exile on Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:05 pm

denounce Koesen, Fircoal and jake
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Postby willis on Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:36 pm

The1exile wrote:denounce Koesen, Fircoal and jake
Care to elaborate?
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Postby The1exile on Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:21 pm

willis wrote:
The1exile wrote:denounce Koesen, Fircoal and jake
Care to elaborate?


eh... I think they're cum? it's just developing my FOS from earlier.
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Postby willis on Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:30 pm

The1exile wrote:
willis wrote:
The1exile wrote:denounce Koesen, Fircoal and jake
Care to elaborate?


eh... I think they're cum? it's just developing my FOS from earlier.
:lol: Really?
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Postby The1exile on Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:32 pm

willis wrote:
The1exile wrote:
willis wrote:
The1exile wrote:denounce Koesen, Fircoal and jake
Care to elaborate?


eh... I think they're cum? it's just developing my FOS from earlier.
:lol: Really?


whoops...
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Postby ga7 on Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:19 pm

Well, I know it's just first votes, but I'd like to say, now that we saw no NKs I'm again partisan of a single lynch for today, unless we have a veeery convincing second case after the first one. If it works anything like the 1st Inquisition, there's good chances the scum has recruiting abilities so even if there's no NKs we're not in a perfect position, but we still have a more than decent margin to take our time finding scum IMO. I prefer voicing this now than see later dozens of denunciations flying left and right =)

Syzygy, I suppose Jake meant 'us' since his 's' and 'w' don't seem to work anymore. Worse, that might be a contaminating post restriction as Exile can't type 's' either! :lol:

About the technology, that's a good question. I was surprised to see N8 only labelled as Heretic (Mafia), but Aim's scenes hint at 2 factions. That or he's screwing with us and there's no Moors :shock: Well, I suppose we can't know for sure till we catch another.
In any case maybe technology can be linked to the Free Spiriters that N8's death scene talked about?

As for Koesen and any clue, time to read up for real :?
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Postby The1exile on Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:27 pm

Hm. you know, this gives me an idea.

If this is the same setup as the original inquisition, then there could be a heretic cult leader, and his henchman, which was n8. Now, in the old one, I couldn't kill and recruit by myself, and choose to do one or the other.

That means that if I'm right, the cult leader pretty much had to (attempt to) recruit someone for the mafia last night, and he didn't have a minion to carry out the kill; hence, no night deaths.

I still think that LSU's disease may be the link to the Moors, though.
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Postby willis on Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:43 pm

Once again Xen browses but fails to post.

Fos Xen for now.
Please do try to contribute something semi-useful if you decide to post.
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Postby ga7 on Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:00 pm

Ahh that'd make sense then. So the scum leader recruits, and either we got lucky with blocking/protecting from an SK either there's no night SK. Which leads again to the LSU case. I really want to hear from him regarding yesterday :P

*30 pages to go weeee*
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Postby wicked on Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:03 pm

can we wait to denounce until we're past the halfway mark of the "day", to see if we get anymore day kills today?
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Postby autoload on Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:40 pm

I agree. I'm curious to see how if we get a day kill as well.

The thing with Koesen... I'm not particularly fond of his playing style, but it wouldn't be unheard of if he is on the straight and narrow. My gut tells me to watch him even closer now though...

As far as the no night kills? I think I'm inclined to agree with the mafia night recruit theory and the LSU Day Vig theory.

I will be going out of town for a day or two on Tuesday morning, so I will be denouncing one or more people tomorrow night based on what I see at that time.
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Postby ga7 on Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:03 pm

My, was that a hassle. Overall I don't get a scum vibe from Koesen. There are certainly elements that seem weird looking back, but the fact he was out there not worrying about getting heat on him, the fact Mandy accused him (and Mandy is never right), and a guts feeling tell me it's not enough. Then again, I can't remember a game where Koesen was scum so no clue if it's just his style, but it appears pretty town-like to me.

wicked wrote:can we wait to denounce until we're past the halfway mark of the "day", to see if we get anymore day kills today?

You mean lynch right? Cause if we refrain from voting altogether that doesn't seem a good idea :shock: Besides, if it's really related to LSU, the only timeline that was found is that 48h after the second cough on Mandy the daykills happened. I bet there'll be nothing just at midday.

Not much else caught my attention while browsing through day 1, I'll hold off voting till everyone check in.
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Postby wicked on Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:11 pm

the 48 hours means nothing b/c there were two killings. someone was really grasping at straws there.


and no, I mean denounce. we got carried away with them "yesterday" to the point that two people almost got lynched. your initial assumption based on someone's post may be wrong, and you can't retract these denouncings. if you think someone is scum, FOS them and wait for their explanation.
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Postby willis on Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:25 pm

ga7 wrote:About the technology, that's a good question. I was surprised to see N8 only labelled as Heretic (Mafia), but Aim's scenes hint at 2 factions. That or he's screwing with us and there's no Moors :shock: Well, I suppose we can't know for sure till we catch another.
In any case maybe technology can be linked to the Free Spiriters that N8's death scene talked about?
That does sound plausible, but I would like to hear others opinions about technology back then.
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Postby Koesen on Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:31 pm

I was the one who came up with the 48 hours theory and I think myself it's a meaningless coincidence, since there were two deaths. I just noticed it and thought I'd bring it up for you people to either reject categorically or worship in awe. As with everything else I said, it turned out to be the first :)

As for technology, the only general thing I know about this particular time frame, is that it was a few decades after the fall of Constantinopel, which caused many Greek scholars to flee to the west and bring about the Renaissance. It was an era of change, so inventions can't be ruled out.

Nor can discoveries, though there don't seem to have been any yet.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:31 pm

Puts mask on *cough* Wicked *cough*. to be honest i was as shocked as yall when I came back during the night phase and saw the two deaths. I'm not really sure what to make of it although with no deaths last night is there a possability that scum possibly kill during the daytime?

To clearify your question on day 1 the cough patter has to include the stars surrounding the word cough with a name in the middle. I also received a warning from using selin and aimless in the name area. unless i'm directing something directly at aimless he doesn't want his name there while the Selin matter was in a gray area which is why i got the 2nd warning.
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Postby Koesen on Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:34 pm

If that means you may only cough on people in this game, may I suggest

(a) trying to see if you can get away with coughing on dead people instead of living ones?

or

(b) always coughing on the same person, so the casualties are limited.

And if you are absolutely certain you have found scum, you can off course always cough on all of them :)
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:35 pm

nagerous wrote:Examining yesterday, one person now top of my suspicions list is Koesen..

My suspicion in him is mostly based on his voting patterns. I find this quote scumtastic.

Koesen wrote:
I find it hard to judge n8freeman. He always seems to submarine. In some games he's scum, in others he isn't. I guess I'll wait until tomorrow to do a count of those who haven't shown up at all yet, and I'll be happy to join in their collective denouncing.

For now, I'm still mostly looking at Wicked and Mandalorian.



This quote screams to me: I'm defending my scum partner n8freeman and try and put focus on the "argument" between confirmed pro-town mandy and wicked. Well he denounced a number of people by the end of the game excluding n8freeman who in my view was most scummy and turned out to be a heretic.



Puts mask back on *Cough* Koeson *cough* that does sound bad about why you defended him. I will admit though on day 1 it usually is pretty tough to figure out who is who when you're a townie role so you could easily wind up defending scum. For now FOS on Koeson
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Postby Koesen on Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:37 pm

Hmm, seems like I'm a dead man regardless of what happens today...
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Postby wicked on Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:54 pm

LSU! Quit saying names!!!!!! you moron!
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Postby wicked on Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:57 pm

If you must say a name, use someone not in the game, or mandy's name.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:24 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:To clearify your question on day 1 the cough patter has to include the stars surrounding the word cough with a name in the middle. I also received a warning from using selin and aimless in the name area. unless i'm directing something directly at aimless he doesn't want his name there while the Selin matter was in a gray area which is why i got the 2nd warning.


*Cough* Wicked *cough* Evidently you skimmed through me stating that I have to state a name and that I got a warning on using Aimless and Selin's name for my cough. In regards to your other point, I can not cough Aimless unless I'm directing my talk at him while it has to be someone currently playing in this game which would mean someone living as a dead player isn't currently playing under the warning notice I got.
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