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Postby XenCobra on Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:25 pm

I'm getting the vibe that Koesen does not seem to be a scum, but it defiantly shady. He should be watch closely. However he is trying to help out and is being active.

No offense Jake, but could you try and clean your posts up. I can't make heads or tails of it.

I've got to agree with The1exile theory more than the doc got lucky. Since with the same this size, it would be rare to get the right person.


willis wrote:nice catch nag. He did write that only minutes after I denounced n8.

So, Are you going to try and contribute something at least semi-useful today XenCobra?


willis wrote:Once again Xen browses but fails to post.

Fos Xen for now.
Please do try to contribute something semi-useful if you decide to post.


If you look at Day 1, by the end I was. I explained why I couldn't at the start of the day. I "browse during the day when I eat, watch a movie, etc. I post more at night, since I'm a night person, and think better at night. Also the more I read over it, the better I have of understanding everything.


If I understand correctly you can only say names of alive people LSU, and you must say a name in every post?
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:27 pm

*Cough* Xen *cough* that is correct. I also agree that I'm having trouble reading Jake's posts as well with that awful keyboard that he has. It is also possible that there is more then 1 protective type role in a game of this size, but thank goodness we had a goodnite in having no kills happen.
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Postby Koesen on Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:37 pm

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LSU Tiger Josh wrote:To clearify your question on day 1 the cough patter has to include the stars surrounding the word cough with a name in the middle. I also received a warning from using selin and aimless in the name area. unless i'm directing something directly at aimless he doesn't want his name there while the Selin matter was in a gray area which is why i got the 2nd warning.


*Cough* Wicked *cough* Evidently you skimmed through me stating that I have to state a name and that I got a warning on using Aimless and Selin's name for my cough. In regards to your other point, I can not cough Aimless unless I'm directing my talk at him while it has to be someone currently playing in this game which would mean someone living as a dead player isn't currently playing under the warning notice I got.


You could have coughed on only one person, though. Unless you're sure that both Wucket and I are mafia?

Or could it be that you really do have some kind of interest in people dieing, as scum or SK? I don't really believe you are sure both of us are scum. You always claim that vigs shouldn't kill unless they are 90% sure of their target. The carelessness with which you just killed two people is unlike you. Unlike you as a townie, anyway.

Anyway, it's too late for today. If yesterday is anything to go by, you are now essentially free to cough on whoever you like, since the damage is probably already done. I predict a sudden death for Wucket and myself in the near future. Ironically, this makes it nearly pointless for us to denounce anybody, since our votes will be erased when we die.
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Postby ga7 on Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:43 pm

Cough, cough. Argh. LSU, I believe you just killed Wicked, and there's a good chance you killed Koesen too.
We'll see later in the day I suppose :?

As a reminder:
ga7 wrote:That might be totally useless, but I checked back on what coughed LSU :lol:

1st: Mandy
2nd: Mandy
3rd: Neutrino (denounced too)
4th: Neutrino
5th: XenCobra (denounced too)
6th: Aimless
7th: Exile
8th: Exile
9th: Selin
10th: Exile
11th: Wicked
12th: Wicked
13th: Aimless (denounced Jake and Moz)

Well, if LSU is doing it it's not related to votes, and most likely not random. Could be related with the number of times he coughed on them though. Either way that role is insane :shock:
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Postby XenCobra on Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:44 pm

Koesen wrote:Hmm, seems like I'm a dead man regardless of what happens today...


You seem pretty sure your going to die today Koesen. So far only 1 person has denounced you and we still don't know if it's LSU, and if it his him, what the conditions of a death he causes is. There are still too many unknowns, yet you are sure you aren't going to make it.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:49 pm

*Cough* Koeson *cough* Wicked had already been coughed on as of yesterday along with some other people that are still living like Exile. Yes, somehow two people died. I am unaware of how that happened though and whether it was via me unknowningly or through someone trying to frame me as the role Aimless gave me is one that would be very easy to frame :cry: The ones that I've coughed on already including you two today should be safe enough for me to cough on the rest of today without a problem in regards to unknowningly infecting someone if it is from me. I'll have to double check everyone that I coughed on Day 1, but with that being the case I should be able to cough on Exile, Wicked, Xen, and yourself plus whoever else I coughed on yesterday. This way I am hopefully covered for a few days on being able to "safely" cough if it is via me.[/b]
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Postby wicked on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:05 am

LSU, unless you know something you're not telling us, it doesn't appear safe for you to cough on anyone. there may be a limit to how many you can infect each day. You already said you can use a name of any mafia player in this game or not, so if you keep coughing on people in this game, I'm going to denounce you.

why the mask on remarks in your other threads today?
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Postby Koesen on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:05 am

The denunciations aren't worrying me yet, though they definitely may become a problem later today. My near certainty of death is based on LSU's coughing. Given yesterday's events, I very strongly suspect that the first two people LSU coughs on, die. Today, that would be me and Wucket.

I really hope I'm wrong, but I really think I'm not.

I don't think Aimless would let LSU unknowingly kill the entire town on Day 1 without giving him a chance to figure out the system. Therefore, I believe all the coughees that survived yesterday are clear for now, and the first two of today are dead people walking.

The theory that you might be framed looks ridiculous to me. These are the 1480s. People hardly knew anything of how diseases occurred and spread. To suggest that in this time frame there is such a thing as deliberate biological warfare, with people knowingly spreading germs even though they are centuries away from being discovered (the first mention of microbes was made in the 1600s), is pure and utter nonsense.

The fact remains that at this point nobody is really sure how it works. I had offered you the suggestion to only cough on one person to limit the number of casualties, which you instantly ignored.

Under those circumstances, a conscientious townie would have been more careful. You are not an idiot. You are not likely to kill two people in the space of five minutes by mistake.

I am willing to assume that you didn't know you were killing people yesterday. But you have to assume that you are now, and your careless way of dealing with it, strongly suggests to me that it is in your interest to see people die. And since at this point, you can hardly be sure about both Wucket and me, that suggests you are an indiscriminate serial killer.

Do we have any independent confirmation that you received these warnings from Aimless? For all I know you just made them up and pretend to be forced to cough on living people.

Bif FOS on LSU
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Postby XenCobra on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:07 am

You coughed on Wicked and Koesen twice, and so did the two that died yesterday. Granted they aren't in order, still is odd. It could be the first 2 he coughs on dies.
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Postby Koesen on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:09 am

That should of course be a big FOS.

And since I have to assume my hours in this game are numbered, I can't afford the luxury of patience anymore. So:

Denounce LSU
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Postby XenCobra on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:10 am

By first 2, I mean first 2 players he coughs on twice.
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Postby Koesen on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:12 am

Could be.

I'm wondering if the mask he says he put on makes a difference.
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Postby Koesen on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:13 am

If the mask does make a difference, it means LSU is lying when he says he's not sure the deaths are related to him.
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Postby wicked on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:13 am

LSU Tiger Josh wrote: I wasn't told that it had to be someone in this exact game though, but it has to be someone that has played mafia.



LSU Tiger Josh wrote: it has to be someone currently playing in this game which would mean someone living as a dead player isn't currently playing under the warning notice I got.


hello mr contradiction! denounce LSU. yes I know I said let's wait to denounce, but I already be infected and he's contradicting himself.
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Postby wicked on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:14 am

wicked wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote: I wasn't told that it had to be someone in this exact game though, but it has to be someone that has played mafia.



LSU Tiger Josh wrote: it has to be someone currently playing in this game which would mean someone living as a dead player isn't currently playing under the warning notice I got.


hello mr contradiction! denounce LSU. yes I know I said let's wait to denounce, but I already *may* be infected and he's contradicting himself.


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Postby wicked on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:15 am

Koesen wrote:If the mask does make a difference, it means LSU is lying when he says he's not sure the deaths are related to him.


agreed. and he didn't answer my question about the mask.
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Postby ga7 on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:16 am

That mask thing was weird. He coughed first on Wicked & Koesen, then coughed a second time on both. But used the mask on the 2 first times...
Bah, in any case I completely agree that these were pretty carefree. We'll see what the daykills bring. If they're as expected, I think we can all agree that Aimless is too sadistic and lynch LSU to get rid of the threat. I still don't buy the framing theory.
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Postby Koesen on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:18 am

And so, in the last hours of our lives, Wucket and I suddenly agree on something :)

Incidentally, if the masks did make a difference, Xen is at risk too. In that case he would be the second person coughed on.

And if people have to be coughed on twice, I think it's suspicious LSU coughed on Mandy and Neutrino twice yesterday without coughing on anybody else in between. That suggests knowledge of what he was doing.

I repeat that he's a serial killer.

And to those of you who prefer patience, remember that Wucket's and my vote will only be counted as long as we're alive. Once we die, they'll instantly be gone, and if that causes you to miss the deadline, it means two more dead people tomorrow.
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Postby XenCobra on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:23 am

My guess on the mask is that is doesn't infect the person when he coughs. And if I'm correct that he has to 2 cough on them twice. We shouldn't be at risk, but we still don't know. Even if he means well, and is trying to help. It might be to dangerous to keep him alive at the risk on killing us during the day. I'm going to hold off denouncing him for now, and let him respond.
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Postby ga7 on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:24 am

Nah, if it's anything like yesterday, we'll have plenty of time to lynch LSU, even without the dead's votes. There's the possibility you don't die because LSU is for one reason or the other really doing something with that mask thing and being careful of not really coughing twice on people... And since it won't make a difference that we wait if he did just kill you, I prefer waiting.
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Postby ga7 on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:29 am

Coughing Count
  • Wicked *masked*
  • Koesen *masked*
  • Wicked
  • XenCobra
  • Koesen

There, might be useful later :lol:
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Postby wicked on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:30 am

:lol: thanks.
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Postby Koesen on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:30 am

If the mask prevents infection, he should always put it on unless he's absolutely sure he's got scum.

The fact that he doesn't, and the fact, as pointed out by Wucket, that he claimed yesterday that he may cough on mafia players not in the game, and the fact that he could easily find an excuse to address Aimless in a few posts but doesn't bother, show that he doesn't really care about getting people killed.

If he had a lot of theories and thoughts to share, he could save them all for one big post and cough on only one person, and that person could easily be Aimless ("Hi *cough* Aimless *cough*, I hope you don't mind me going silent a bit here, but I have to be careful with who I breathe on, right?").

Instead, he coughs on at least three different people in the space of, what, twenty minutes or so?

Scum!
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Postby wicked on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:31 am

*takes vaccine and vitamins* ok, I'm set! can't kill me!
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Postby Koesen on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:35 am

ga7 wrote:Nah, if it's anything like yesterday, we'll have plenty of time to lynch LSU, even without the dead's votes. There's the possibility you don't die because LSU is for one reason or the other really doing something with that mask thing and being careful of not really coughing twice on people... And since it won't make a difference that we wait if he did just kill you, I prefer waiting.


The point is not that there's a possibility we don't die. The point is that there is a possibility we DO die. And LSU is doing absolutely nothing to prevent that from happening. The two cough theory is merely a two cough theory. For all we know, one cough might suffice.

This same discussion came up yesterday. People said: let's wait, we have time, see what happens tomorrow. Tomorrow came and LSU is carelessly coughing all over the place. How much longer do you want to wait?
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