PKMN Chap 2: Day 6(5/18)

[strike wolf]

EBWOP: I also don't recall eagleblade being that clever.

I doubt he was Eagleblade but not sure.

[new guy1]

Its night because of damage control, kinda says it . I do believe that my brother could have pointed out what he was talking about, but I also believe that if looten would look (like a mafia player) instead of asking for everything on a silver platter (like a lazy bum) then he could have seen it. I do believe that ghost was just trying to get the guy he thought was scum to defend himself and he didnt want to spell it out for him as we have both had a long day and this guy cant even read a silly sentence to get what ghost was trying to say. I dont think that ghost has to appoligize or accept the appoligy yet because as far as Im concerned the appoligy was not sincere. I would, however, like to go back and read how he phrased it and if I could see it being TRUELY sincere.

[new guy1]

Oh Im sorry, he just asked if he appoligized would they all accept it. He never gave one. Sorry. And I am not trying to flame, I am just saying its kind of silly.

[Haggis_McMutton]

He did what? I think all he did was tell you you got too serious about a game. Which you did. It doesn't justify what he did, but I know I got a sincere apology. I also know you turned one down because apparently asking forgiveness comes with a waiting period(?)

Oh this reminds me, I forgot to say:

Looten: I have no idea if you're a multi / just want to troll, but if you're none of those and genuinely want to play mafia I think the community might yet accept you.
If you join a smaller game (modded by someone who hasn't blacklisted you) and don't do anything stupid you'll be ok as far as I'm concerned.

[new guy1]

Agreed, but I dont want to participate in that game, and I dont know how many people he will be able to find to play a match with them.

[kratos644]

So much for me presenting a case tonight. I come back from work to see 9 new pages!
I will read up and if it's not too late after that then I'll put my case together otherwise it is just going to have to wait until morning.

[kratos644]

My original responses=blue
Ghostly's responses=red
My new responses=pink

Going through, Kranos mentioned somewhere (P.23 somewhere) saying "going against the grain was not good". Well, I feel that this is quite scummy personally. Because last I checked, Zimmah went against the grain. And he was released after getting a few votes on him, with no claim, and really no results.

Just out of curiosity did you actually read the case I presented or just skim through it? I didn't say that "Going against the grain was not good." That makes it sound like a general thing and that every time someone does it's a bad thing which certainly isn't true. My case, if you would read it, talked about how he was saying things that appeared like he was making it sound as if he was trying to seek out cases while still applying pressure to the case he wanted to make him look town. Yes there was also parts about him stagnating the game from continuing on with the zimmah case as well.

I did in fact read it. Sorry, 30 pages is quite a bit to read through and summarize in as little as I did. So wait, your case was about PMC saying things that made it appear that he was in fact looking for cases while still applying pressure to the first case? Well, that is the point of the game isnt it? Pursue the current case until a better one shows up. By continuing pressure, it allowed for another case to build, granted it backfired and almost led to him being the D1 lynch, but obviously he had town benefit in mind by seeking other cases. Thanks for giving me that point

Sigh... Notice how I said the things he was saying was him "Trying to make it sound as if he was actively scumhunting while he wasn't" At the time I made the case that was what I believed him to be doing which was the driving reason behind me making it. I was pointing out how he was trying to sound like town when really I believed him to be scum(obviously since I voted him and made a case against him but we've had issues this game with people understanding that.) There is a difference between actually seeking out cases and trying to appear to be seeking out cases to appear to be town and when I made the case against him that was what I believed he was doing.

What is really tricky is how Some7hingCLEVER continues to post a bunch of fluff to appear active but has no real substance to add anywhere...

True..But you know what is also really tricky? The fact that you were heading the case just 2 pages ago and now others are taking control and you are no longer really pushing on PMC. Funny how things like that work. You know, switching pressure everywhere by taking majority thought (everyone hates the pressure on Zimmah) and applying it to the person continuing to pressure.

What's even trickier than this though is how you're trying to twist things. Yes I was heading the case 2 pages ago but there weren't really any new developments for me to respond to and I was starting to get a much more null read on PMC at that point so there wasn't much to be said about that from me. And soon after he asked for time to create a solid defense for things which he did. Why would I continue to push that?

You didnt. I am just saying you directed pressure from zimmah onto PMC. You are in fact twisting my words, because here is my post:

Guys, Kranos is pushing this case hard. Such like a few pushed against Zimmah, and in the end, PMC was stuck as the next case just because he was finishing the case EVERYONE ELSE started.

Also, you must very much consider that my post against you was made before you backed off. Remember? I am a replacement.

Would you mind clarifying the underlined portion for me? The way it reads, it sounds like you're saying you made a post about me and then I backed off, but you weren't even in the game before I backed off the PMC case... Are you saying that you made that post you italicized prior to reading the part where I backed off PMC?

As far as me "twisting your words" I obviously wasn't referencing the post you quoted because hey I didn't quote that one... You see most people tend to quote the post they're responding to not some random one.

And one more thought. If I was going with majority thought, why were there only 2 votes on PMC before I made my case and if you look I mentioned that I was working on a case(the one on PMC prior to him having any votes at all.

Kratos - Seems to direct the flow but never finish out his cases.

First you say "cases" I've presented the one case on PMC and while I may have directed the flow on that why would I finish out a case that was then adequately defended and I now believe the player is town... I'm not going to continue to push for a lynch of someone who I don't believe to be scum that's just stupid. I know maybe if I had said somewhere that PMC's response was good enough for me and that I no longer wanted to vote for him. Then we wouldn't have this confusion I bet.

Alright. PMC, your response has satisfied me so my vote will be remaining off of you for now.

Oh wait I did say that. Hmm... Why are we having this confusion then? Either you've been really skimming or you're trying to attack the people who have been talking about clever as seeming scummy. aka SW and I

Oh, but wait. I could have sworn that my case was that you seemed to be directing the flow from switching the case from zimmah to PMC. oh, whats that? You have it quoted above? I will highlight in in green. Thank you for that.
Yes because so many people were on the Zimmah case that it took some expert manipulating by me to

Clever jumps all over the board with activity. Some games, he is inactive. Others, he is half active, half inactive. Most, he attempts to make the cases and figure out everything as he goes, and does relatively okay. In this case, I think he is trying to give little imput. Maybe either because he doesnt think the cases given are good ones, maybe because he is scum. He is not on the top of my list of potential scum.

This is just to further my point about you protecting clever. Here you're trying to sort of protect by saying he's not high on your list of potential scum/you don't think he's acting to scummy yet you also say that maybe he's acting the way he his because he is scum to kind of cover your tracks. I find this quite scummy in itself but unfortunately it is built around clever being scum so he would have to first be lynched to figure things out but if he does come up scum at some point you're my first target for a case.

Twisting my words again? Very much so. I did in fact say that he may or may not be scum. But I believe I also said that in some games he is hyper active, and in some inactive. Oh, I did. Here, I will highlight in cyan.

Anyway I must be going for now as I have to work. When I get off work tonight I'll work on putting together a case on S7C so we can get things rolling.

Where much enjoy work! You sure did work hard building that case against yourself!

Zimmah is a potential scum. I do not like how he handled the day 1 random pressure, and think his case could have waited for a little more evidence.

interesting timing for your 'case' on me.

That all you have to say zimmah?

If thats the case, then all I gots to say is..Indeed.

Not going to bother quoting loot. I will just respond.

When you flip mafia? I sit back and make sure I catch the rest of your scum buddies.
When you flip town? I sit there and prepare to defend myself from what will surely be a brigade of votes on me D2, so that I can explain myself.

Yeah I understand the policy of day one lynches. Day one lynches can yield so much information. The best I can do in this position is deflect to another player and be accused of deflecting to further dig my grave.
Most of my read-up was on my past-self, the cases I had built were destroyed by later posts. So I'm still sifting through to get some goodens.

I think Ghostly should agree to be lynched if I flip town... if you're so sure why don't you put your life on the line!
Yes yes I understand you don't 100 percent know. But lets make this interesting shall we.

Decided to quote because this is so interesting. Let me break it down point by point.
1. You understand the policy of day 1 lynches. This sentence will come back to haunt you shortly.
2. Deflecting would most certainly dig your grave further. But there was a second option you forgot to mention. Thats the option where you actually defend yourself and make it so that no townie is lynched, and no claims are given (if you can help it).
3. I should agree to be lynched if you flip town, putting my life on the line for the ultimate D1 lynch suspense drawer in the world. Why, if you were town, would you want someone leading a case (like a normal townie does when they are confident) to risk their own life to prove their point on day 1 which you clearly state you know I cannot be 100% sure about?

If I could vote you again, you better believe it would be there in a heart beat.

So, what have we learned today?

Zimmah can write some 1 liners in response to an entire case I built on 4-6 players.
Loot doesnt want to dig himself a deeper grave, though in my opinion he just did.
Kratos loves digging his own grave.
Strike Wolf is the only players I cannot go strongly against here until I get time to reread.
SG7 loves to joke around (go figure).
And Jonty can skim skim skim.

Questions, comments, concerns?

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[kratos644]

My original responses=blue
Ghostly's responses=red
My new responses=pink

Going through, Kranos mentioned somewhere (P.23 somewhere) saying "going against the grain was not good". Well, I feel that this is quite scummy personally. Because last I checked, Zimmah went against the grain. And he was released after getting a few votes on him, with no claim, and really no results.

Just out of curiosity did you actually read the case I presented or just skim through it? I didn't say that "Going against the grain was not good." That makes it sound like a general thing and that every time someone does it's a bad thing which certainly isn't true. My case, if you would read it, talked about how he was saying things that appeared like he was making it sound as if he was trying to seek out cases while still applying pressure to the case he wanted to make him look town. Yes there was also parts about him stagnating the game from continuing on with the zimmah case as well.

I did in fact read it. Sorry, 30 pages is quite a bit to read through and summarize in as little as I did. So wait, your case was about PMC saying things that made it appear that he was in fact looking for cases while still applying pressure to the first case? Well, that is the point of the game isnt it? Pursue the current case until a better one shows up. By continuing pressure, it allowed for another case to build, granted it backfired and almost led to him being the D1 lynch, but obviously he had town benefit in mind by seeking other cases. Thanks for giving me that point

Sigh... Notice how I said the things he was saying was him "Trying to make it sound as if he was actively scumhunting while he wasn't" At the time I made the case that was what I believed him to be doing which was the driving reason behind me making it. I was pointing out how he was trying to sound like town when really I believed him to be scum(obviously since I voted him and made a case against him but we've had issues this game with people understanding that.) There is a difference between actually seeking out cases and trying to appear to be seeking out cases to appear to be town and when I made the case against him that was what I believed he was doing.

What is really tricky is how Some7hingCLEVER continues to post a bunch of fluff to appear active but has no real substance to add anywhere...

True..But you know what is also really tricky? The fact that you were heading the case just 2 pages ago and now others are taking control and you are no longer really pushing on PMC. Funny how things like that work. You know, switching pressure everywhere by taking majority thought (everyone hates the pressure on Zimmah) and applying it to the person continuing to pressure.

What's even trickier than this though is how you're trying to twist things. Yes I was heading the case 2 pages ago but there weren't really any new developments for me to respond to and I was starting to get a much more null read on PMC at that point so there wasn't much to be said about that from me. And soon after he asked for time to create a solid defense for things which he did. Why would I continue to push that?

You didnt. I am just saying you directed pressure from zimmah onto PMC. You are in fact twisting my words, because here is my post:

Guys, Kranos is pushing this case hard. Such like a few pushed against Zimmah, and in the end, PMC was stuck as the next case just because he was finishing the case EVERYONE ELSE started.

Also, you must very much consider that my post against you was made before you backed off. Remember? I am a replacement.

Would you mind clarifying the underlined portion for me? The way it reads, it sounds like you're saying you made a post about me and then I backed off, but you weren't even in the game before I backed off the PMC case... Are you saying that you made that post you italicized prior to reading the part where I backed off PMC?

As far as me "twisting your words" I obviously wasn't referencing the post you quoted because hey I didn't quote that one... You see most people tend to quote the post they're responding to not some random one.

And one more thought. If I was going with majority thought, why were there only 2 votes on PMC before I made my case and if you look I mentioned that I was working on a case(the one on PMC prior to him having any votes at all.

Kratos - Seems to direct the flow but never finish out his cases.

First you say "cases" I've presented the one case on PMC and while I may have directed the flow on that why would I finish out a case that was then adequately defended and I now believe the player is town... I'm not going to continue to push for a lynch of someone who I don't believe to be scum that's just stupid. I know maybe if I had said somewhere that PMC's response was good enough for me and that I no longer wanted to vote for him. Then we wouldn't have this confusion I bet.

Alright. PMC, your response has satisfied me so my vote will be remaining off of you for now.

Oh wait I did say that. Hmm... Why are we having this confusion then? Either you've been really skimming or you're trying to attack the people who have been talking about clever as seeming scummy. aka SW and I

Oh, but wait. I could have sworn that my case was that you seemed to be directing the flow from switching the case from zimmah to PMC. oh, whats that? You have it quoted above? I will highlight in in green. Thank you for that.
Yes because so many people were on the Zimmah case that it took some expert manipulating by me to

Clever jumps all over the board with activity. Some games, he is inactive. Others, he is half active, half inactive. Most, he attempts to make the cases and figure out everything as he goes, and does relatively okay. In this case, I think he is trying to give little imput. Maybe either because he doesnt think the cases given are good ones, maybe because he is scum. He is not on the top of my list of potential scum.

This is just to further my point about you protecting clever. Here you're trying to sort of protect by saying he's not high on your list of potential scum/you don't think he's acting to scummy yet you also say that maybe he's acting the way he his because he is scum to kind of cover your tracks. I find this quite scummy in itself but unfortunately it is built around clever being scum so he would have to first be lynched to figure things out but if he does come up scum at some point you're my first target for a case.

Twisting my words again? Very much so. I did in fact say that he may or may not be scum. But I believe I also said that in some games he is hyper active, and in some inactive. Oh, I did. Here, I will highlight in cyan.

Anyway I must be going for now as I have to work. When I get off work tonight I'll work on putting together a case on S7C so we can get things rolling.

Where much enjoy work! You sure did work hard building that case against yourself!

Zimmah is a potential scum. I do not like how he handled the day 1 random pressure, and think his case could have waited for a little more evidence.

interesting timing for your 'case' on me.

That all you have to say zimmah?

If thats the case, then all I gots to say is..Indeed.

Not going to bother quoting loot. I will just respond.

When you flip mafia? I sit back and make sure I catch the rest of your scum buddies.
When you flip town? I sit there and prepare to defend myself from what will surely be a brigade of votes on me D2, so that I can explain myself.

Yeah I understand the policy of day one lynches. Day one lynches can yield so much information. The best I can do in this position is deflect to another player and be accused of deflecting to further dig my grave.
Most of my read-up was on my past-self, the cases I had built were destroyed by later posts. So I'm still sifting through to get some goodens.

I think Ghostly should agree to be lynched if I flip town... if you're so sure why don't you put your life on the line!
Yes yes I understand you don't 100 percent know. But lets make this interesting shall we.

Decided to quote because this is so interesting. Let me break it down point by point.
1. You understand the policy of day 1 lynches. This sentence will come back to haunt you shortly.
2. Deflecting would most certainly dig your grave further. But there was a second option you forgot to mention. Thats the option where you actually defend yourself and make it so that no townie is lynched, and no claims are given (if you can help it).
3. I should agree to be lynched if you flip town, putting my life on the line for the ultimate D1 lynch suspense drawer in the world. Why, if you were town, would you want someone leading a case (like a normal townie does when they are confident) to risk their own life to prove their point on day 1 which you clearly state you know I cannot be 100% sure about?

If I could vote you again, you better believe it would be there in a heart beat.

So, what have we learned today?

Zimmah can write some 1 liners in response to an entire case I built on 4-6 players.
Loot doesnt want to dig himself a deeper grave, though in my opinion he just did.
Kratos loves digging his own grave.
Strike Wolf is the only players I cannot go strongly against here until I get time to reread.
SG7 loves to joke around (go figure).
And Jonty can skim skim skim.

Questions, comments, concerns?

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Well crap this all looks ugly now. I meant to hit preview but accidentally hit submit. Give me a few minutes and I will fix it

[kratos644]

My original responses=blue
Ghostly's responses=red
My new responses=pink

Going through, Kranos mentioned somewhere (P.23 somewhere) saying "going against the grain was not good". Well, I feel that this is quite scummy personally. Because last I checked, Zimmah went against the grain. And he was released after getting a few votes on him, with no claim, and really no results.

Just out of curiosity did you actually read the case I presented or just skim through it? I didn't say that "Going against the grain was not good." That makes it sound like a general thing and that every time someone does it's a bad thing which certainly isn't true. My case, if you would read it, talked about how he was saying things that appeared like he was making it sound as if he was trying to seek out cases while still applying pressure to the case he wanted to make him look town. Yes there was also parts about him stagnating the game from continuing on with the zimmah case as well.

I did in fact read it. Sorry, 30 pages is quite a bit to read through and summarize in as little as I did. So wait, your case was about PMC saying things that made it appear that he was in fact looking for cases while still applying pressure to the first case? Well, that is the point of the game isnt it? Pursue the current case until a better one shows up. By continuing pressure, it allowed for another case to build, granted it backfired and almost led to him being the D1 lynch, but obviously he had town benefit in mind by seeking other cases. Thanks for giving me that point

Sigh... Notice how I said the things he was saying was him "Trying to make it sound as if he was actively scumhunting while he wasn't" At the time I made the case that was what I believed him to be doing which was the driving reason behind me making it. I was pointing out how he was trying to sound like town when really I believed him to be scum(obviously since I voted him and made a case against him but we've had issues this game with people understanding that.) There is a difference between actually seeking out cases and trying to appear to be seeking out cases to appear to be town and when I made the case against him that was what I believed he was doing.

What is really tricky is how Some7hingCLEVER continues to post a bunch of fluff to appear active but has no real substance to add anywhere...

True..But you know what is also really tricky? The fact that you were heading the case just 2 pages ago and now others are taking control and you are no longer really pushing on PMC. Funny how things like that work. You know, switching pressure everywhere by taking majority thought (everyone hates the pressure on Zimmah) and applying it to the person continuing to pressure.

What's even trickier than this though is how you're trying to twist things. Yes I was heading the case 2 pages ago but there weren't really any new developments for me to respond to and I was starting to get a much more null read on PMC at that point so there wasn't much to be said about that from me. And soon after he asked for time to create a solid defense for things which he did. Why would I continue to push that?

You didnt. I am just saying you directed pressure from zimmah onto PMC. You are in fact twisting my words, because here is my post:

Guys, Kranos is pushing this case hard. Such like a few pushed against Zimmah, and in the end, PMC was stuck as the next case just because he was finishing the case EVERYONE ELSE started.

Also, you must very much consider that my post against you was made before you backed off. Remember? I am a replacement.

Would you mind clarifying the underlined portion for me? The way it reads, it sounds like you're saying you made a post about me and then I backed off, but you weren't even in the game before I backed off the PMC case... Are you saying that you made that post you italicized prior to reading the part where I backed off PMC?

As far as me "twisting your words" I obviously wasn't referencing the post you quoted because hey I didn't quote that one... You see most people tend to quote the post they're responding to not some random one.

And one more thought. If I was going with majority thought, why were there only 2 votes on PMC before I made my case and if you look I mentioned that I was working on a case(the one on PMC prior to him having any votes at all.

Kratos - Seems to direct the flow but never finish out his cases.

First you say "cases" I've presented the one case on PMC and while I may have directed the flow on that why would I finish out a case that was then adequately defended and I now believe the player is town... I'm not going to continue to push for a lynch of someone who I don't believe to be scum that's just stupid. I know maybe if I had said somewhere that PMC's response was good enough for me and that I no longer wanted to vote for him. Then we wouldn't have this confusion I bet.

Alright. PMC, your response has satisfied me so my vote will be remaining off of you for now.

Oh wait I did say that. Hmm... Why are we having this confusion then? Either you've been really skimming or you're trying to attack the people who have been talking about clever as seeming scummy. aka SW and I

Oh, but wait. I could have sworn that my case was that you seemed to be directing the flow from switching the case from zimmah to PMC. oh, whats that? You have it quoted above? I will highlight in in green. Thank you for that.

Yes because so many people were on the Zimmah case that it took some expert manipulating by me to swing everyone over to the PMC case. And yes as you said, what you said is quoted above. You clearly mentioned how I don't finish my case"s" but why would I finish a case where I think the person who would get lynched is town? That's just silly. As for directing the flow in general though. Doesn't any case attempt to do such? Can I now say you're scummy because you're trying to direct the flow towards me? That seems rather ridiculous to me.

Clever jumps all over the board with activity. Some games, he is inactive. Others, he is half active, half inactive. Most, he attempts to make the cases and figure out everything as he goes, and does relatively okay. In this case, I think he is trying to give little imput. Maybe either because he doesnt think the cases given are good ones, maybe because he is scum. He is not on the top of my list of potential scum.

This is just to further my point about you protecting clever. Here you're trying to sort of protect by saying he's not high on your list of potential scum/you don't think he's acting to scummy yet you also say that maybe he's acting the way he his because he is scum to kind of cover your tracks. I find this quite scummy in itself but unfortunately it is built around clever being scum so he would have to first be lynched to figure things out but if he does come up scum at some point you're my first target for a case.

Twisting my words again? Very much so. I did in fact say that he may or may not be scum. But I believe I also said that in some games he is hyper active, and in some inactive. Oh, I did. Here, I will highlight in cyan.

Not really sure what your highlighted part has to do with anything I mentioned. Yes you did also say that but it was irrelevant to the point I was bringing up and also not twisting your words in any way at all... I was just saying how they appear to me and to me it appears you're trying to protect a scum buddy while also leaving yourself a way out in case he gets lynched.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

It's night time, yo.

-Tails

[rdsrds2120]

(Sorry for the interruption, just poking my head in!)

I edited out what I saw from Looten (you know, those books of w/e), so those pages shouldn't be such an eyesore to view anymore.

Looten, don't post in this thread anymore. You are not part of this game, you have demonstrated that you show no interest in actual contribution, and you're probably a multi, anyway. PM me if you must reply. Regards,

--rdsrds2120

[DoomYoshi]

@kratos:

Unfortunately, due to it being night time, you are not allowed to present any cases. You need to be quiet.

@ someone who asked:

I made it night time to give a few days and hopefully people will post less at night and the game will get back on track.

[zimmah]

Im sorry are you saying that the bible is inappropriate? enjoy burning in hell

the bible has nothing to do with mafia, and randomly quoting bible phrases is inappropriate.i'm even saying this as a christian. and besides, there's no such thing as hell.

[zimmah]

oh and if he hasn't been lynched or banned yet unvote vote loot

[pmchugh]

Its night time guys

[Some7hingCLEVER]

oh and if he hasn't been lynched or banned yet unvote vote loot

he got modkilled.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Okay ill strike a deal here.

if you guys apologize, I will leave.

Apologize for what? The mods will remove you, no one here owes you shit. If anything its time to get on your knees and pray to God, because last I checked it was other religions that forced their word upon others, not Christianity.

I will apologize for one thing. And that is that you wont be apart of the community anymore. Quit trolling, quit spamming, there are hardly any people left that will even respect you enough to not report you, must less apologize.

You really have no right to talk down to him, tbqh. He said your claims had no basis, and you resorted to calling him an idiot and a smart ass rather than actually show the "contradictions".

he told him to read it agian and that is was all right there. i in no way blame ghostly but everyone gets there own opinions.

And that's the wrong answer. Lemme put it this way:

Bob: What's the problem?
Ted: Look.
Bob: I don't see it.
Ted: LOOK.
Bob: Seriously, show me.
Ted: JUST LOOK YOU FUCKING RETARD.

See what I mean?

Well, I had a whole post lined up on how you were all overreacting and how I didn't think Looten had done anything wrong. I actually thought his points were legitimate. So much for that.

I do think he took things too far. But if you can't deal with sarcastic assholes then what the hell am I doing here?

At least you arent trying to tell me my life story after 3 hours of briefly speaking due to me accusing you. I can deal with sarcasm, but when you get accused, that is not the time to become a smart ass.

Looten, your apology is not accepted. I am sorry you decided to come on in and try to explain my life within 3 hours of conversation while I was against you none the less. Can someone check the IP addresses and see if there is a match between this account and eagleblade?

It doesnt work that way. You dont just flame and shit for 30 minutes and then request to be forgiven. Admittedly, I could have stopped anytime I wanted, but I felt when my name was brought up, I needed to defend myself. CLEVER says it well in his apologies.

He did what? I think all he did was tell you you got too serious about a game. Which you did. It doesn't justify what he did, but I know I got a sincere apology. I also know you turned one down because apparently asking forgiveness comes with a waiting period(?)

Also, is it actually night? And why? (Not to belabor the day, just want to know).

last thing ill say tonight.
ghostly did show him the post. and i said i would accept an apology and gave one myself and then never got one so. anyways goodnight hope we live till morning.

[kratos644]

@kratos:

Unfortunately, due to it being night time, you are not allowed to present any cases. You need to be quiet.

@ someone who asked:

I made it night time to give a few days and hopefully people will post less at night and the game will get back on track.

Yeah sorry. I forgot after all the random crap that happened.
Hopefully that's understandable

[shieldgenerator7]

If you apologize Captain Planet I will accept it.

Wow, and I thought I was a troll. Chris Nolan was no where near as bad as this (no offense)

Anyway, here's a story I'm sure you're all familiar with. It's long so I'll post it in spoilers:

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Good night!

-SG7 ( )

[zimmah]

oh and if he hasn't been lynched or banned yet unvote vote loot

he got modkilled.

i know but i posted that based on what a read a few pages before he got modkilled while i was still reading just to make sure i wouldn't forget to post.
and yes it's nighttime.

[DoomYoshi]

The party had walked along route 44 for most of day 1. Oda's forces were constantly following behind. Along the way, a trainer, Mako, had fallen ill. Unfortunately, she had to be left behind. During the night her Snivy was mewing and walking around. Eventually the crying became too much and a sudden SNAP! was heard.

Grass Pokemon were not in favour during the night, as another one was torn apart, piece by piece.

Also, a new deal was struck; Toyotomi Hideyoshi had entered into a bargain with Date Masamune. With this new alliance, the rest of Japan would fall very quickly. It was only a matter of time.

Meanwhile, in a different area of the camp, a series of events occured which was guaranteed to cause confusion the next day.

When the party awoke, they saw they were at the BATTLE PARK!

However, 2 of the party were now missing.

Haggis McMutton, Mako's Snivy has fainted.

pmchugh, Tangela, Town Poison Doctor has fainted.

[strike wolf]

Vote Ghostly Due to the early night I didn't have time to do this yesterday but the reasoning is quite simple. He was wrong about his cases on both me and Kratos. He never bothered addressing my counterargument and simply continued suggesting my probable guilt and when confronted by Kratos about the misinformation, instead of admitting he was wrong, he instead came up with some BS reasoning to try to make it fit.

[pancakemix]

Vote Ghostly Due to the early night I didn't have time to do this yesterday but the reasoning is quite simple. He was wrong about his cases on both me and Kratos. He never bothered addressing my counterargument and simply continued suggesting my probable guilt and when confronted by Kratos about the misinformation, instead of admitting he was wrong, he instead came up with some BS reasoning to try to make it fit.

This is pretty much exactly what I was going to say before the shit hit the fan yesterday. Ghostly isn't making arguments, he's just telling facts and it doesn't matter if they make any sense logically or not. That, I think, is why when Looten said he didn't see any contradictions, ghostly just pushed for him to look again rather than actually just pointing out the contradictions.

Vote Ghostly

[ghostly447]

Hey guys, I am going to attempt to go through this game tomorrow. Been busy (as posted in the vacation thread) so I am sorry that I came in, read 30 pages, dealt with looten, addressed 3-4 cases, got the game moving, and then didnt get time to address another case which would require me going back and rereading the 30 pages.

And to be fair, you are both now marked scummy (unless I havent read claims, or deaths, etc yet) because if you didnt notice, Strike wolf, I may have been wrong about looten, but you (as far as I have read) are not clear.

[ghostly447]

Vote Ghostly Due to the early night I didn't have time to do this yesterday but the reasoning is quite simple. He was wrong about his cases on both me and Kratos. He never bothered addressing my counterargument and simply continued suggesting my probable guilt and when confronted by Kratos about the misinformation, instead of admitting he was wrong, he instead came up with some BS reasoning to try to make it fit.

This is pretty much exactly what I was going to say before the shit hit the fan yesterday. Ghostly isn't making arguments, he's just telling facts and it doesn't matter if they make any sense logically or not. That, I think, is why when Looten said he didn't see any contradictions, ghostly just pushed for him to look again rather than actually just pointing out the contradictions.

Vote Ghostly

You make no logical sense PCM.
1. Facts are what drive a case, thank you for the boost.
2. I was trying to prove he was just being a smart-ass using the dictionary definition instead of going back, looking, and seeing that I was accusing him of drawing scummy stuff from his previous post.

This isnt a case, this is a flat out bandwagon, and you guys are giving some pretty poor evidence considering I posted in the vacation thread explaining my absence and anyone who looked back at my case against him could have seen what I meant.