Lord of the Rings mafia [Town wins]

[Mr. Squirrel]

I said he was scummy yesterday, and I'm sticking with it today. William has been pretty inactive this whole game. When we call him out on it, he posts just enough to get us off his back and then he disappears again. vote william Falko also fits this category but his last post was very outspoken against thez (whom we all believe to be scum) so until we get a claim from fir, I'll stick with william.

Im not necessarily inactive, It's not like im not responding.

That makes you all the more suspicious though. If we constantly berated you to talk and you never did, we could blame it on circumstances. But since you respond promptly whenever asked, it is like you are reading this thread, but not willing to contribute regularly. Seems pretty scummy to me.

[Suspect101]

what I find scummy is fircoal not posting in this thread and people taking their vote off of him.

[Iliad]

vote count?

[AceArtemis]

Vote: fircoal because Fircoal needs to claim.

Good thing that no death happened, but bad thing that mafia now gets a daykill.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.
I find this post scummy because Iliad points out the obvious without contributing anything to the game. This gives the illusion of helping the town without really helping the town. His next two posts only defend himself and try to shift suspicion to Iliad's accuser, pmc. Are you willing to help the town out here, or are you just going to post only to defend yourself? Do you find pmc the most scummy right now? Is there anyone else that you find scummy right now?

I'm willing to trust suspect's powers, so so far Iliad is the one who looks scummiest to me, I'm a bit strapped for time right now, I'll come and write my reasoning later.

Simon never contributes anything to the game, he always has an excuse about not having enough time, and makes short, useless posts. I find this play quite scummy. FoS: Simon

[Iliad]

Vote: fircoal because Fircoal needs to claim.

Good thing that no death happened, but bad thing that mafia now gets a daykill.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.
I find this post scummy because Iliad points out the obvious without contributing anything to the game. This gives the illusion of helping the town without really helping the town. His next two posts only defend himself and try to shift suspicion to Iliad's accuser, pmc. Are you willing to help the town out here, or are you just going to post only to defend yourself? Do you find pmc the most scummy right now? Is there anyone else that you find scummy right now?

Night had ended and I posted short opinion on what happened. I'd just read the night scene and so did not have a whole heap of new information from the night scene.

While comments like
"Well shit, there goes our doctor"
"Yes, we got the mafia goon!" aren't particularly deep, they do however start bigger conversations once more people are talking.

Onto people who are scummy. Firstly all lurkers. Discussion has really slown down in the last couple of days. Partly I think is that people are afraid of the daykill, and so do not want to attract attention. Partly because everyone is waiting for fircoal. I find it quite strange that ficoal isn't posting, since he had just replaced then. However people who are voting for lurkers, can be quite scummy themselves. People when they can't post, cannot defend themselves. Though thez/fir looked pretty scummy, and others who are not posting regularly, scum could get a quick lynch by rushing onto someone before that person could have a chance to claim, and to make the day quite short.

That enough for you AA? Please tell me you're not going to run into the thread to make your second post for this game day, put a vote on someone who looks scummy and is likely to be lynched accuse someone and leave again? Wouldn't that look scummy?

[Simon Viavant]

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Partly because everyone is waiting for fircoal. I find it quite strange that ficoal isn't posting, since he had just replaced then. However people who are voting for lurkers, can be quite scummy themselves. People when they can't post, cannot defend themselves. Though thez/fir looked pretty scummy, and others who are not posting regularly, scum could get a quick lynch by rushing onto someone before that person could have a chance to claim, and to make the day quite short.
[/quote]y explanation is fircoal wants to be lynched again because it will fail again.

[Stroop]

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Stroop get fircoal to post here.

He gets a prod tonight.

Vote count

william18 - 2 (spiesr, Mr. Squirrel)
Fircoal - 2 (pmchugh, AceArtemis)

Not voting: Fircoal, sam_levi_11, karelpietertje, Clive, Falkomagno, Iliad, Suspect101, Simon Viavant, william18

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Day 3 will end approximately 240 hours from now
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[pmchugh]

Simon never contributes anything to the game, he always has an excuse about not having enough time, and makes short, useless posts. I find this play quite scummy. FoS: Simon

If he always does it, how is it scummy Not that I think simon has played particularly townie and hologram certainly didn't act townie, there were a lot of better reasons than that to FOS him.

fircoal is clearly active in the forums, this seems like lurking unless he has forgot he joined this game. His inactivity is not helping his case and tbh I would be mega surprised if he was actually a townie.

[Suspect101]

vote fircoal

[spiesr]

So quick question here. Those voting fo fircoal, are you voting for him to get him to post or are you voting because you want him to be lynched weather he posts or not? I personally don't think he is gonna post no matter what you do...

[pmchugh]

So quick question here. Those voting fo fircoal, are you voting for him to get him to post or are you voting because you want him to be lynched weather he posts or not? I personally don't think he is gonna post no matter what you do...

I am wanting him to post, if he fails to do so then he will eventually be modkileld as per the rules.

[Suspect101]

So quick question here. Those voting fo fircoal, are you voting for him to get him to post or are you voting because you want him to be lynched weather he posts or not? I personally don't think he is gonna post no matter what you do...

he needs to post. if he does not he needs to be lynched. not posting is not a town thing to do.

[Suspect101]

@ the people voting for someone other than fircoal, if you think he is not going to post no matter what, why are you not voting for him? I tihnk this is a better question.

[Mr. Squirrel]

@ the people voting for someone other than fircoal, if you think he is not going to post no matter what, why are you not voting for him? I tihnk this is a better question.

I am planning on voting for him, if I hear his claim. For all we know, fir could be faramir (who survived a lethal wound in the books/movie) and we are trying to lynch a townie. I wouldn't put it past fircoal to purposely try to screw us over.

I don't think this is likely, but it is always a possibility. My guess is that fir is sauron and he knows he can't be killed unless some action is completed (ex. ring destroyed). In which case it makes no difference if we try to lynch him again or not.

I have one question though. Mafia is supposed to have one daykill today, but what if the day ends before they use it? Maybe we should try to get a lynch really quickly to save a townie.

[karelpietertje]

just like Thezzaruz didn't claim yesterday, fircoal isn't going to claim today... apparently we can't lynch him?

[karelpietertje]

just like Thezzaruz didn't claim yesterday, fircoal isn't going to claim today... apparently we can't lynch him?

what i'm saying is to focus on somebody else for now because Sauron obviously couldn't be lynched. we're pretty sure he's Sauron right?

[pmchugh]

@ the people voting for someone other than fircoal, if you think he is not going to post no matter what, why are you not voting for him? I tihnk this is a better question.

I am planning on voting for him, if I hear his claim. For all we know, fir could be faramir (who survived a lethal wound in the books/movie) and we are trying to lynch a townie. I wouldn't put it past fircoal to purposely try to screw us over.

I don't think this is likely, but it is always a possibility. My guess is that fir is sauron and he knows he can't be killed unless some action is completed (ex. ring destroyed). In which case it makes no difference if we try to lynch him again or not.

I have one question though. Mafia is supposed to have one daykill today, but what if the day ends before they use it? Maybe we should try to get a lynch really quickly to save a townie.

I thought about a quick lynch but due to the scene provided by stroop I am almost sure he would just give them a kill at the end of the day.

And I don't really think that faramir will be in this game although its possible, there is 15 players with at least 3 scum +gollum +9 feelowship + treebeard (already dead), meaning there will be only one other spot. Unless he claims fellowship and is not counter claimed then we should try to lynch him in case it's a one-shot deal.

[Fircoal]

hello thar, sorry for lurking, I've been busy avoiding this thread, I mean you can't expect people to be available all of the time. espeically when you have 42 pages to read and you're a procrastinator. Anyway, I'm not really caught up, but I'm aware that I am in the need to claim. I am Falamir, a bulletproof townie. I am immune to the first kill that happens to me but after that I'm dead meat. Actually, the only reason I survived was because it was a deadline lynch. It says in my role pm if a lynch were to happen by a true majority than my protection would fail, so I got out of luckily. ^^"

Vote: fircoal because Fircoal needs to claim.

Good thing that no death happened, but bad thing that mafia now gets a daykill.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.
I find this post scummy because Iliad points out the obvious without contributing anything to the game. This gives the illusion of helping the town without really helping the town. His next two posts only defend himself and try to shift suspicion to Iliad's accuser, pmc. Are you willing to help the town out here, or are you just going to post only to defend yourself? Do you find pmc the most scummy right now? Is there anyone else that you find scummy right now?

Night had ended and I posted short opinion on what happened. I'd just read the night scene and so did not have a whole heap of new information from the night scene.

While comments like
"Well shit, there goes our doctor"
"Yes, we got the mafia goon!" aren't particularly deep, they do however start bigger conversations once more people are talking.

HOW!??!?!??! Please explain this to my Illy, as those comments seem to state the obvious and without something relevant tied to them, people could get the same use out of tying their quotes to scene.

So quick question here. Those voting fo fircoal, are you voting for him to get him to post or are you voting because you want him to be lynched weather he posts or not? I personally don't think he is gonna post no matter what you do...

he needs to post. if he does not he needs to be lynched. not posting is not a town thing to do.

It's also a lazy thing to do

Also guys:

Guys... honestly:

pmc is scum

Just look at the things he's saying...

[pmchugh]

fircoal is sauron there is no doubt about it.

First off he mispelt faramir the claim that mr squirrel proposed to him. Personally I would have went for frodo and at least taken him down with me. The fact he didn't try to claim an important character shows that he can be lynched or else he would have ntohnig to fear from getting a counter claim.

As I stated there are 14 of 15 roles accounted for, but this one does not seem likely to me at all, not just because of the claim but because of the way thez played (and fcoal). If anyone is a role other than the fellowship but is a townie then they can counter claim fircoal if they feel it neccesary.

This claim is so unlikely and since he has lost his bulletproofness in the very unlikely event he is telling the truth we only lose a VT.

[Fircoal]

fircoal is sauron there is no doubt about it.

First off he mispelt faramir the claim that mr squirrel proposed to him.

typo XD

Personally I would have went for frodo and at least taken him down with me.

I was unsure if he claimed or not.

The fact he didn't try to claim an important character shows that he can be lynched or else he would have ntohnig to fear from getting a counter claim.

see above

As I stated there are 14 of 15 roles accounted for, but this one does not seem likely to me at all, not just because of the claim but because of the way thez played (and fcoal).

From how I played? I only posted once!

If anyone is a role other than the fellowship but is a townie then they can counter claim fircoal if they feel it neccesary.

I feel it is. I also feel Stroop.

This claim is so unlikely and since he has lost his bulletproofness in the very unlikely event he is telling the truth we only lose a VT.

D:

btw:

pmc is scum

[AceArtemis]

I am Falamir, a bulletproof townie. I am immune to the first kill that happens to me but after that I'm dead meat. Actually, the only reason I survived was because it was a deadline lynch. It says in my role pm if a lynch were to happen by a true majority than my protection would fail, so I got out of luckily.

Firstly, you spelled it wrong. It's Faramir, not Falamir.
Here's what wikipedia has to say:

In J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium, Faramir is a fictional character appearing in The Lord of the Rings. He is introduced as the younger brother of Boromir of the Fellowship of the Ring and second son of Denethor II, the Steward of the realm of Gondor. The relationships between the three men are revealed over the course of the book and are elaborated in the appendices.

Faramir first enters the narrative in person in The Two Towers, where, upon meeting Frodo Baggins, he is presented with a temptation to take possession of the Ruling Ring. In The Return of the King, he led the forces of Gondor during the War of the Ring, coming near to death, and eventually succeeded his father as the Steward and won the love of Éowyn of Rohan. These events have been depicted in several adaptations of The Lord of the Rings, most notably in Peter Jackson's film trilogy, which introduces significant changes in Faramir's character.

My gut reaction is that the claim is false. While there may be non-fellowship townies in the game, any claim of a non-fellowship character should be treated with suspicion. Also, does the role of bulletproof townie really fit the character of Faramir? With the previous scummyness of Thezzaruz, I can bet that Fircoal is scum, but I am still not sure if the unlynchable was one-time or ring-based, and I don't want to waste a day trying to lynch an unlynchable. What do you all think?

[AceArtemis]

Night had ended and I posted short opinion on what happened. I'd just read the night scene and so did not have a whole heap of new information from the night scene.

While comments like
"Well shit, there goes our doctor"
"Yes, we got the mafia goon!" aren't particularly deep, they do however start bigger conversations once more people are talking.

Short comments like that usually get ignored when other people actually post useful content, because there's nothing in the comment to discuss. Yes, the doctor is dead. Anyone can get that from reading the scene. Yes, I know you are excited that we got the mafia goon. Everyone is. But pointing out the obvious isn't going to create a discussion. You provided a whole lot of opinion there when you stated that it is good that nobody died but it is bad that the mafia gets a daykill. I think you were just trying to look townie.

Onto people who are scummy. Firstly all lurkers. Discussion has really slown down in the last couple of days. Partly I think is that people are afraid of the daykill, and so do not want to attract attention. Partly because everyone is waiting for fircoal. I find it quite strange that ficoal isn't posting, since he had just replaced then. However people who are voting for lurkers, can be quite scummy themselves. People when they can't post, cannot defend themselves. Though thez/fir looked pretty scummy, and others who are not posting regularly, scum could get a quick lynch by rushing onto someone before that person could have a chance to claim, and to make the day quite short.

Good, you provided some opinion. However, you didn't answer one of my questions, so I'll ask it again. Do you find pmc scummy? To what extent?

That enough for you AA? Please tell me you're not going to run into the thread to make your second post for this game day, put a vote on someone who looks scummy and is likely to be lynched accuse someone and leave again? Wouldn't that look scummy?

Here you are again trying to make your accuser look scummy. I really don't care about looking scummy, because I already claimed. I'm basically a confirmed townie.

[Mr. Squirrel]

I am Falamir, a bulletproof townie. I am immune to the first kill that happens to me but after that I'm dead meat. Actually, the only reason I survived was because it was a deadline lynch. It says in my role pm if a lynch were to happen by a true majority than my protection would fail, so I got out of luckily.

unvote vote fircoal
1) you spelt faramir wrong
2) you contradict your role on your own. First you say you get one free life, but then you say you only lived because it was a deadline. So which is it?
3) You stole the situation I came up with. It literally took me three seconds to come up with that extremely unlikely scenario. Couldn't you spend at least a few minutes trying to figure out something original and a little more likely? Especially after you made us wait days for your claim.

I'm afraid fir might really be unlynchable simply because he is making himself look extremely scummy by this claim. He probably wants us to waste another day trying to kill him, but it is a chance I'm willing to take. We need to knock out at least one scum here soon and at this point I think he is guaranteed as scum.

[pmchugh]

Personally I would have went for frodo and at least taken him down with me.

I was unsure if he claimed or not.

So you would have done had he not claimed You just basically admitted you fake claimed.

The fact he didn't try to claim an important character shows that he can be lynched or else he would have ntohnig to fear from getting a counter claim.

see above

Twice

The question is not whether or not fircoal is scum, but whether or not we can do anything about it. I don't know wether to try or not, meanly the scenes seem to be showing the story follows a specified storyline meaning that town could just have to survive to a certain day, but it would just be unbalanced if he is completely bulletproof/lynchproof.

I still think we should try and lynch but what does everyone else think?

[Fircoal]

Personally I would have went for frodo and at least taken him down with me.

I was unsure if he claimed or not.

So you would have done had he not claimed You just basically admitted you fake claimed.

The fact he didn't try to claim an important character shows that he can be lynched or else he would have ntohnig to fear from getting a counter claim.

see above

Twice

uh... da. I can figure out that I'm basically dead. There is no need to struggle and waste mine and everyone else's time. I'll do that in other ways. ;3