Memebase Mafia Game Over!

[dazza2008]

EBWOP: Let me just add that morning is what I call "kindergarten time" and, as such, I'm usually busy enough to reply for obvious reasons.

Also, Dazza, do NOT reveal your own meme or you'd be tampering with my proof.

Ok but can everyone stop calling me "she" I am not a girl. Dazza is a nickname for my son Darren. Not sure why some of you think its a girls name.

[Rodion]

Sorry, Dazza, I heard so many people refer to you as her that I got things confused.

Yoshi, Dazza is Mark Zuckerberg.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/zuckerberg-note-pass

I'm willing to listen on who I should target tonight (or not target at all), even though I'd rather keep my freedom. I also consider lynching an investigative role (me) before a Safari flip a big mistake, so you could keep me alive in quarantine for some days until Safari eventually flips and then we'll know whether it was truthful or whether he was a lyncher (I'm almost sure we have one in this game).

[dazza2008]

Sorry, Dazza, I heard so many people refer to you as her that I got things confused.

Yoshi, Dazza is Mark Zuckerberg.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/zuckerberg-note-pass

I'm willing to listen on who I should target tonight (or not target at all), even though I'd rather keep my freedom. I also consider lynching an investigative role (me) before a Safari flip a big mistake, so you could keep me alive in quarantine for some days until Safari eventually flips and then we'll know whether it was truthful or whether he was a lyncher (I'm almost sure we have one in this game).

This is true I am Mark Zuckerberg. Just wish you did not have to molest and attack me to find it out

[Rodion]

Sorry, Dazza, I heard so many people refer to you as her that I got things confused.

Yoshi, Dazza is Mark Zuckerberg.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/zuckerberg-note-pass

I'm willing to listen on who I should target tonight (or not target at all), even though I'd rather keep my freedom. I also consider lynching an investigative role (me) before a Safari flip a big mistake, so you could keep me alive in quarantine for some days until Safari eventually flips and then we'll know whether it was truthful or whether he was a lyncher (I'm almost sure we have one in this game).

EBWOP:

Yours,
Pedobear
Pop Warner wrestling coach

[shieldgenerator7]

ok, dazza, your turn. confirm rod's claim. or unconfirm it. either one. FASTPOSTED. Ok you did that.

So, rod, does your ability give you a guilty result or just the name of the meme?

FASTPOSTED

[shieldgenerator7]

I do not see how being able to tell what players' memes are helps town at all. Especially if we're supposed to role play our memes anyway. This seems like a scum role. mafia would benefit more from a role like this because then they have an easier time making a fakeclaim if they more about the other memes in the game. My vote stays for now.

-SG7 ( )

[Rodion]

Oh, man, I'm running out of ideas of PRs!

Shield, just the name of the meme, it's an identity/flavour cop, not the real innocent/guilty cop. And haven't you realized that not all players have to roleplay their memes? They have leeway for fakenameclaiming (whether needing a fake name is useful for mafia or not is something I'm not sure of) since they're not bound to an obvious PR like /, Chap, Jonty or me. Those are the ones I'm targeting. Dazza was the obvious choice because he openly claimed that he did not have a PR to follow.

Yours,
Pedobear
Pediatrist - no parents allowed, only patients

[shieldgenerator7]

Oh, man, I'm running out of ideas of PRs!

Shield, just the name of the meme, it's an identity/flavour cop, not the real innocent/guilty cop. And haven't you realized that not all players have to roleplay their memes? They have leeway for fakenameclaiming (whether needing a fake name is useful for mafia or not is something I'm not sure of) since they're not bound to an obvious PR like /, Chap, Jonty or me. Those are the ones I'm targeting. Dazza was the obvious choice because he openly claimed that he did not have a PR to follow.

Yours,
Pedobear
Pediatrist - no parents allowed, only patients

but still, how does this help town? If the memes that would look obviously scum aren't necesarily scum, then how does it help us to know everyone's meme? It seems this helps mafia more than anybody, especially if not everyone has to show their meme in a PR.

[safariguy5]

Oh please, Rodion. I was planning on not revealing today and vigging you tonight anyways, but there always was a slight possibility that you'd roleblock me and I wouldn't get to do that. This is standard guilty verdict defense (busdriven, framed, etc.). The beauty with my role is that I am already flavor confirmed right as the game started. So paranoia doesn't really fit if I'm the one who found out about the mafia threat am I?

Lyncher? Are you kidding me? How the heck does Success Kid get shoehorned into lyncher for Pedobear?

Seriously guys, this is just the standard attempt for a person to deflect a guilty verdict. Let's lynch this scum/anti town third party role and come back to the icedagger thing tomorrow.

[Rodion]

Oh, man, I'm running out of ideas of PRs!

Shield, just the name of the meme, it's an identity/flavour cop, not the real innocent/guilty cop. And haven't you realized that not all players have to roleplay their memes? They have leeway for fakenameclaiming (whether needing a fake name is useful for mafia or not is something I'm not sure of) since they're not bound to an obvious PR like /, Chap, Jonty or me. Those are the ones I'm targeting. Dazza was the obvious choice because he openly claimed that he did not have a PR to follow.

Yours,
Pedobear
Pediatrist - no parents allowed, only patients

but still, how does this help town? If the memes that would look obviously scum aren't necesarily scum, then how does it help us to know everyone's meme? It seems this helps mafia more than anybody, especially if not everyone has to show their meme in a PR.

Already answered in red. I don't know: it may help, it may not. I could change my approach and target people with the obvious PRs to see if their names match their PRs or if they are faking it, but I'm not sold that would be better than mapping the non-PR players.

What I do know is that I have investigative powers and I should not be guilty under investigation. I find it eery that it is the Kid meme trying to get the Pedobear meme lynched (flavour would fit perfectly with a lyncher role for Safari), that he is a JOAT with a guilty (because claiming cop with a guilty would get you counterclaimed in a matter of hours), that he didn't wait to vig me tonight and decided to out himself instead and that he waited for my sleeptime to show his results and possibly get me speedlynched. This is all looking too strange.

Oh please, Rodion. I was planning on not revealing today and vigging you tonight anyways, but there always was a slight possibility that you'd roleblock me and I wouldn't get to do that. This is standard guilty verdict defense (busdriven, framed, etc.). The beauty with my role is that I am already flavor confirmed right as the game started. So paranoia doesn't really fit if I'm the one who found out about the mafia threat am I?

Lyncher? Are you kidding me? How the heck does Success Kid get shoehorned into lyncher for Pedobear?

Seriously guys, this is just the standard attempt for a person to deflect a guilty verdict. Let's lynch this scum/anti town third party role and come back to the icedagger thing tomorrow.

THANK YOU FOR THE ANTI-TOWN SLIP!!!!!

If you stop skimming and actually read what Dazza said, she was not N1 blocked, she WILL be N2 blocked. Do you know what that means? It means you CAN vig me tonight with ZERO chance that I block you (I wouldn't be N2 blocking you, but N3 blocking you instead).

With this little detail explained, I dare you to vig me tonight, lyncher!

If I didn't love kids I'd be voting you right now!

Oh, wait, I will!!!

Vote safariguy5.

[Mr. Squirrel]

@Rodion. As people already said, just because we now know the extent of your powers, bro, doesn't mean you are innocent. Your role could be scum just as easily as it could be town. Unless anyone can come forward with a reason why the night actions would have been screwed up, then I have no reason to disbelieve safariguy.

[Mr. Squirrel]

THANK YOU FOR THE ANTI-TOWN SLIP!!!!!

If you stop skimming and actually read what Dazza said, she was not N1 blocked, she WILL be N2 blocked. Do you know what that means? It means you CAN vig me tonight with ZERO chance that I block you (I wouldn't be N2 blocking you, but N3 blocking you instead).

With this little detail explained, I dare you to vig me tonight, lyncher!

If I didn't love kids I'd be voting you right now!

Oh, wait, I will!!!

Vote safariguy5.

FASTPOSTED



unvote... for now.

[shieldgenerator7]

hmmm... interesting point rod. I agree, it does look like saf might be a lyncher.

But then again it also looks like you might be mafia. Seriously, an flavor cop, crippler (someone who steals another's ability to vote), and roleblocker?
I think you're the mafia crippler-roleblocker and dazza is helping you with your fakeclaim. You can talk during the day and dazza told you her meme so you could post it, or better yet, you made up her fakeclaim and all she had to do was confirm it.

we'll find out after a lynch. Although if saf really is lyncher then he will win, but if he's not there's a good chance you're mafia.

@saf. if you got that guilty result why'd you wait so long to reveal it? And your JOAT abilities are 1-time use right? So why would you waste a vig kill on rod when you know you can just get him lynched?

SUSPICIOUS!


*sees a banana peel in the street, keeps walking*

-SG7 ( )

FASTPOSTED

[strike wolf]

This is really interesting. As far as showing up guilty under investigation, I don't know Pancake's tendencies and I don't think Commander has ever used a miller before but most mods don't let their millers know they are millers. The rest about Safari being a lyncher is possible but seems far fetched to me and waiting for your sleepy time...that just sounds like a load of bollocks.

So in other words, it does seem like you are trying to hard to push for safari as the bad guy to shift attention. Your ability is a bit of a hesitation mark. It is slightly more probable in being a town role but nowhere near impossible as a scum role in a game with an SK and/or other possible factions especially.

Shield's latest post jumps to a lot of conclusions that I wouldn't necessarily say is true. It almost would seem more likely that dazza was recruited and didn't understand until later that he was now aligned with Rodion and that is very much wifom of it's own.

[jonty125]

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What I do not agree with is the cult recruiter thing. That sounds too far fetched especially when you consider that Dazza seems to have been unaware that he was recruited by Rodion.

Post above mine

It almost would seem more likely that dazza was recruited and didn't understand until later that he was now aligned with Rodion and that is very much wifom of it's own.

These 2 posts DON'T ADD UP! Care to explain strike why when I suggest Pedobear been cult recruiter! I feel really cheesed off ← please repeat this statment OVER 9000! TIMES

Page 41 2 posts up from strike dismissing my suggestion

but could Pedobear be a cult recruiter. i.e he molests you and you are now his forever?

FOS strike

[Rodion]

I think you're the mafia crippler-roleblocker and dazza is helping you with your fakeclaim. You can talk during the day and dazza told you her meme so you could post it, or better yet, you made up her fakeclaim and all she had to do was confirm it.

Then kill Dazza first and see what he flips. If he's town, you'll see I was not lying.

The cult recruiter speculation is also weaksauce, but it could be easily contained since you'll know who I "recruited" by waiting for everyone to vote and seeing whose vote is not tallied.

Just let me live and give both Safari and I a chance.
Safari can prove his non-lyncher role by vigging me and I can prove Safari is lying by surviving. A possible town watcher is invited to target me for extra confirmation on whether Safari targeted me or not and whether other people (mafia aligned) tried to tamper with the "showdown".

Yours,
Pedobear
Michael Jackson's Neverland Manager

[edocsil]

Millers are bastard roles for a reason, they cannot be allowed to live. Rodion will hang today, if for nothing more then the idiotic attempt to lynch Saf, who has claimed one of the only roles that we can be fairly certain to be town and also to be in the game.


PPE~ Jonty, those posts of Strike's are not conflicting IMO, but I will let him defend himself as he knows the intent of his words better then I.

[strike wolf]

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What I do not agree with is the cult recruiter thing. That sounds too far fetched especially when you consider that Dazza seems to have been unaware that he was recruited by Rodion.

Post above mine

It almost would seem more likely that dazza was recruited and didn't understand until later that he was now aligned with Rodion and that is very much wifom of it's own.

These 2 posts DON'T ADD UP! Care to explain strike why when I suggest Pedobear been cult recruiter! I feel really cheesed off ← please repeat this statment OVER 9000! TIMES

Page 41 2 posts up from strike dismissing my suggestion

but could Pedobear be a cult recruiter. i.e he molests you and you are now his forever?

FOS strike

Read the part in bold. Dazza's reaction to what would have been the recruitment is the key that makes me feel the cult recruiter part is far fetched. I'm also saying in my own post the situation that it could make sense under the scenario I outlined isn't particularly likely.

[safariguy5]

hmmm... interesting point rod. I agree, it does look like saf might be a lyncher.

But then again it also looks like you might be mafia. Seriously, an flavor cop, crippler (someone who steals another's ability to vote), and roleblocker?
I think you're the mafia crippler-roleblocker and dazza is helping you with your fakeclaim. You can talk during the day and dazza told you her meme so you could post it, or better yet, you made up her fakeclaim and all she had to do was confirm it.

we'll find out after a lynch. Although if saf really is lyncher then he will win, but if he's not there's a good chance you're mafia.

@saf. if you got that guilty result why'd you wait so long to reveal it? And your JOAT abilities are 1-time use right? So why would you waste a vig kill on rod when you know you can just get him lynched?

SUSPICIOUS!


*sees a banana peel in the street, keeps walking*

-SG7 ( )

FASTPOSTED

JOAT's are not one-shot roles. I can use any action, but only one per night. Seriously, I'm a lyncher? How is the pro-town hero a lyncher?

Notice I'm right here at the beginning of the game.

There's a conspiracy to destroy Memebase! Clearly, forming a mob and killing randomly without due process is the best solution!

Day 1 begins! With 32 alive it takes 17 to lynch!

So explain to me again why I'd be lyncher? It's much more likely that you're mafia or anti-town than I am a lyncher.

And you want to render me roleblocked AND voteless? So you can buy more time for your scumbuddies?

And while I don't believe you're cult recruiter, even if you were, your strategy basically allows you time to recruit a town PR, screwing town over even IF you do end up dying.

So yes, add an OMGUS vote to me, and I'm just going to give you more rope to hang yourself with.

[Rodion]

JOAT's are not one-shot roles. I can use any action, but only one per night.

This is not clear: you mean you are not claiming 1-shot cop + 1-shot doc + 1-shot vig + 1-shot RB?

Are you claiming you can be cop or doc or vig or RB and repeat the same actions indefinitely?

And you want to render me roleblocked AND voteless?

Skimming AGAIN? Didn't you understand that I can't block for the current night and that by vigging me you'll effectively make it happen? Read Dazza's post and you'll see it. You can prove you're not lying by vigging me.

[Rodion]

JOAT's are not one-shot roles. I can use any action, but only one per night.

This is not clear: you mean you are not claiming 1-shot cop + 1-shot doc + 1-shot vig + 1-shot RB?

Are you claiming you can be cop or doc or vig or RB and repeat the same actions indefinitely?

And you want to render me roleblocked AND voteless?

Skimming AGAIN? Didn't you understand that I can't block for the current night and that by vigging me you'll effectively make it happen? Read Dazza's post and you'll see it. You can prove you're not lying by vigging me.

EBWOP:

Yours,
Pedobear
Lover of children

[safariguy5]

JOAT's are not one-shot roles. I can use any action, but only one per night.

This is not clear: you mean you are not claiming 1-shot cop + 1-shot doc + 1-shot vig + 1-shot RB?

Are you claiming you can be cop or doc or vig or RB and repeat the same actions indefinitely?

And you want to render me roleblocked AND voteless?

Skimming AGAIN? Didn't you understand that I can't block for the current night and that by vigging me you'll effectively make it happen? Read Dazza's post and you'll see it. You can prove you're not lying by vigging me.

EBWOP:

Yours,
Pedobear
Lover of children

No, I was clarifying by saying I didn't only have 1 night to do all 4 actions. Yes, each individual action is one-shot, but seeing as how my investigation came up guilty on you, it makes more sense for us to lynch you than leave you alive and force me to waste my vig ability on you as well.

[icedagger]

Unvote Vote Rodion

A day two guilty result really has to be a lynch. Rodion's performed an admirable rear guard action but there shouldn't be a need for any debate.

[strike wolf]

*watches porn with a blank expression as everyone else notices*

I think you've kind of dug your ditch rodion. I would have been okay with leaving it as it was when you initially proved your ability (like I said the role itself is slightly more likely to be town) but this insistence to go after the one living player who seems to be flavor confirmed townie makes about as much sense as a little kid challenging the world heavyweight champion to a boxing match.

[new guy1]

as everyone else is voting rodion and i dont see how his role could be good although it might very well be im going to have to say vote rodion... though i could be wrong but i guess we wont know until/if he is lynched. sorry for my innactivity, i like to read to be sure of things, though im still not real sure who might be another scum after this besides maybe icedagger (saw lots of bad posts on him :/)...