Rodion wrote:chapcrap wrote:Do you think this is legitimate?
Do you think a joke vote from another game actually has merit?
That depends on how you define legitimate. I'll give you some yes/no answers so you get some insight on me.
No, I'm not 100% sure Strike is mafia.
No, I'm not 100% sure you are mafia if Strike is.
Yes, I think the quote from GP: Greek was worth mentioning. It brings extra information to the table and it can potentially aid town into clearing townies or catching scum. For instance, the Rodion/Strike town -> Epitaph town conclusion wouldn't have been made if I had not quoted that game.
It brings faulty information to the table. You have read way too far into it and even bringing it up as a potential last resort lead was legitimizing the case far more than it should ever have been. I also feel you are putting too much weight behind the epitaph=town conclusion. Is it a town like comment? yes but it's far from a 90% guarantee.
Rodion wrote:Yes, if Strike flips mafia and I'm still alive, I will pay extra attention to you.
All I know is your joke was either innocent or carried some knowledge about this game. Which of the 2 is more likely? I don't know, I don't have a PhD in psychiatry or something like that. I still think we are better off by bringing the jokevotes up than by ignoring it and letting only people that played/read GP: Greek now what happened.
I disagree you brought a dangerous line of thinking into the game based on a very weak premise. There was nothing legitimate enough to warrant that the case should have been made and you've basically set up a scenario that mafia could take advantage of (if either of us tonight were to die and flip town the other would instantly be suspected heavily tomorrow based on the premise you brought up). If you had a strong reason for the case I would not mind but this does not even deserve to be on the back burner.
rodion wrote:betiko wrote:I ve seen him post in other stuff yesterday... do you guys know him and does he often plays mafia games?
maybe he just registered to try get a medal and wasn't really planning on play this...
ok what do we do now?
-go ahead and lynch him, this has started over a month ago and he is contributing way too little. he's either scum or a not very useful town.
-stick with the chap/rodion/strike case that all started from a joke vote
-wait to see if another interesting case shows up
Sorry if i m being a bit impatient, it's my first mafia game online and it's all going surprisingly slow for me. we just completed 1 day and 1 night over a month and i see many remarks about this game being very buisy and being fast. what is the longest mafia game you played here, over a year??
On Jimfinn: I've played 2 games with him. He was cult recruiter in Team CC and mafia in Pokémon. He submarined in both games, but I don't have seen him as town in any games in order to be able to compare his activity.
This has to be clarified: we should not go ahead and lynch him before he claims. Whoever hammers in such a case has to be killed the following day. The exception to that would be a close arriving deadline with Jim simply refusing to post and this scenario is far from happening (and if that happens, I'd try to get him replaced before the deadline would expire).
Regarding your impatience, the games last more when there are more players. Each game day should last less than the earlier day (there is more knowledge around and less people to talk). Personally, I don't think this game will last until february.
MeDeFe wrote:He's been talking a lot but not saying very much, it reminds me of the Terminator game where he got a town powerrole lynched after having made an obviously fake counterclaim. He's just that good at writing walls of texts with convoluted reasoning and still appear really convincing.
People keep bringing Terminator up when they want to lynch me. They mentioned it in Memebase and in Magic: the Gathering. I wrote walls in both and at least 1 person outright confessed he/they wouldn't even read and simply keep his/their vote on me, because he was in Terminator and knew my playing style. I got lynched in both games. I flipped 3rd-party survivor and town jailkeeper, respectively.
Well your problem there tends to be that you get somewhat OMGus when people accuse you. Memebase is a great example of that.
Rodion wrote:Food for thought.
strike wolf wrote:Why the rush to mention it? It would seem to me that if you did feel it was weak (you said so yourself in your initial post) than it really isn't worthy to bring up unless there isn't anything going on
I could have brough that up later, but I would not have waited until D3 since there is no guarantee I'd be alive by then. Since I had to post that on D2, I figured earlier would be better than later. It was meant to be on the backburner from the get-go (and I said that in my original post), but I got instantly OMGUSed by you and Chap. The GP: Greek quotes have not been on the backburner since then.
The problem with something like that is it's not going to be easy to just put on the back burner. Once it's out there it draws attention. Another reason I don't think it deserved to be mentioned. As far as me OMGusing. I did say i was looking at you before that and there's evidence in the thread. By bringing a joke vote into you tipped the scales.
Rodion wrote:strike wolf wrote:which isn't true we had a perfectly relevant case on a highly inactive player regarding submarining. Then there's the fact you don't even comment on that case until after this which gives me the impression you hadn't read into it yet.
You don't need to resort to impressions when I had clearly stated that I had not read into Jim's case at that point in the game. Let me show you.
Rodion wrote:Alright, I've waited enough. I still need to catch up with the last couple of pages so I won't be commenting on that just yet, but I wanted to bring up some knowledge from another game that will perhaps be useful here.
You're just proving my point here. You present something that A. is weak by your own argument so it really only should be mentioned if there is absolutely nothing to go on. and B you posted it before you checked to see if there was a better case that was already made.
rodion wrote:strike wolf wrote:The timing itself regardless of how you write it off still stands out. 16 minutes after you were called out and if you were reading my posts to know that I hadn't brought safari's joke vote up you had to be well aware of it. You're overall behavior has been paranoid to say the least and I've run it over in my head as to why you could be paranoid and acting in the manner you are and I still have nothing.
I obviously checked your posts (and Chap's) in order to see whether either of you had brought this up before me. That doesn't change the fact that I had not read the last 2 pages other than simply looking for a wolf/devil avatar to find a GP: Greek reference.
And I just can't accept the paranoia accusations coming from you of all people. I mention a quote from another game that might indicate you to be scum and you immediately vote on me and don't let it go? And you create BS aggravating circumstances considering the timing of a post that had been promised to be delivered in a specific day? Frankly, I think the paranoia joke is on you.
you keep acting like you don't expect to last the night. It seems like an overreaction compared to how I've seen you act in other games so as far as I can tell it's a fake reaction. I've given clear and pretty good reasoning for why I do not like your "Case". The timing? There are approximately 24 hours in a day. To limit let's say that the average person sleeps 8 hours a day leaving 16 hours or 960 minutes. You posted within 16 minutes after I asked for a post from you. SO let's say 960-16=944. That's 944 minutes you could have posted that you didn't. 16 minutes is an awfully big coincidence for a "BS aggravating circumstance".
rodion wrote:Also, I'm not voting Jim before I hear a claim. I also advise people not to L-1 him until he does. We don't need to run risks (mafia doublevoter, lyncher, stupid/rash townie etc) and L-2 is a safe place to stop at.
@Betiko: Generally when I prod someone if they show up to post once or twice and then go inactive again I don't bother prodding them again. If they get prodded however and maintain a good level of activity for a significant period of time before going AWOL again than I will prod again before I replace.
