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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2: needs a replacement

Postby Commander9 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:13 pm

Agree with most of your analysis and I can assure you that I am town and my name would prove that, but that would not end well as I'd lose some of my powers and would become a target. Also, not completely sure about /'s alignment either. You generally appeared pro-town, but that's what a good scum would do.

As for lynching goes, I still suggest Vio, but I'd definitely throw into Edoc's case. I don't think Haggis is our priority at the moment.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2: needs a replacement

Postby safariguy5 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:32 pm

edocsil wrote:
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edocsil wrote:Haggis, your right, many of those arguments apply to myself. And guess what? I was nearly lynched for it.


Do you not see that trying to prove I'm scum, with arguments that apply better to you, means you are basically saying that, by your own reasoning, you are scum?

If I am pro-town, trying to spot scum by looking at people that acted somewhat like me doesn't make a whole lot of sense ...
On the other hand in Briasburg I did actively scumhunt by trying to spot people acting similarly to me(since I was GF and all).

So either you are scum and are trying to spot rival scum under the supposition that they act like you, or you don't really believe in your case and only keep pushing it because hey, as long as no one in your group dies it's all good ...


The bolded bit is true, I would like this game to end quickly as that is my best way to remain alive at the end of the game. I intentionally drew attention to myself D1 for 2 reasons. First off I am bulletproof, so I will happily soak up NKs. Second off I have a solid claim, the Merovingian has to be in this game the only question is alignment. I felt that I could successfully convince you all that I was innocent so I played boldly Forcing others to play their cards. I know most of the roles in the game, there are only 5 I do not know assuming everyone is telling the truth. I picked the scummiest of the ones I did not know and pushed for your lynch.

And BTW

Haggis_McMutton wrote:Do you not see that trying to prove I'm scum, with arguments that apply better to you, means you are basically saying that, by your own reasoning, you are scum?


I am trying to prove that you are a good candidate to be force to claim and then if said claim fails to hold water, be lynched.

Assuming people are being truthful so far, I'd venture a guess that you'd know whether Vio would be an associate of yours or not. That would help clarify who looks more scummy.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2: needs a replacement

Postby edocsil on Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:08 pm

safariguy5 wrote:
edocsil wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
edocsil wrote:Haggis, your right, many of those arguments apply to myself. And guess what? I was nearly lynched for it.


Do you not see that trying to prove I'm scum, with arguments that apply better to you, means you are basically saying that, by your own reasoning, you are scum?

If I am pro-town, trying to spot scum by looking at people that acted somewhat like me doesn't make a whole lot of sense ...
On the other hand in Briasburg I did actively scumhunt by trying to spot people acting similarly to me(since I was GF and all).

So either you are scum and are trying to spot rival scum under the supposition that they act like you, or you don't really believe in your case and only keep pushing it because hey, as long as no one in your group dies it's all good ...


The bolded bit is true, I would like this game to end quickly as that is my best way to remain alive at the end of the game. I intentionally drew attention to myself D1 for 2 reasons. First off I am bulletproof, so I will happily soak up NKs. Second off I have a solid claim, the Merovingian has to be in this game the only question is alignment. I felt that I could successfully convince you all that I was innocent so I played boldly Forcing others to play their cards. I know most of the roles in the game, there are only 5 I do not know assuming everyone is telling the truth. I picked the scummiest of the ones I did not know and pushed for your lynch.

And BTW

Haggis_McMutton wrote:Do you not see that trying to prove I'm scum, with arguments that apply better to you, means you are basically saying that, by your own reasoning, you are scum?


I am trying to prove that you are a good candidate to be force to claim and then if said claim fails to hold water, be lynched.

Assuming people are being truthful so far, I'd venture a guess that you'd know whether Vio would be an associate of yours or not. That would help clarify who looks more scummy.


I do know exactly who my other associate is. I also will not give up the identity of my bodyguard except to save their life from a lynch.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2: needs a replacement

Postby VioIet on Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:56 am

strike wolf wrote:Considering this there probably isn't room for an sk and the kill was probably the mafia. It would also suggest that edoc belongs to a 3 person group like he claims.


I wouldn't rule out the possibility of there being a SK or a town vigilante. I strongly suspect the possibility of either mafia/SK/vig having their kill blocked. So we can't be sure who tried to kill Mr.Squirrel last night.

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The thing is, if I'll reveal myself, something bad will happen and that's the reason I've been avoiding that. As far as being connected to Vio, if I am, I have no idea. I had some information before about some other people, but everything that I've said about vio was based on the actual game rather than the PM.


That just seems so scummy. Unless you are the architect- which you denied.

My knowledge of the movie is pretty much nil, so I'm just gathering what I've heard other people say.

Which character could possibly be better off without anyone knowing about them besides the architect?

I do understand commander's post on another level- that there has been a lot of claims- which are more helpful to scum.

The thing is- if you have info about certain people- that is how you most likely knew 00icon was town. Which is pretty much what i was getting at on Day 1. Had to be some reason you knew.

But, since you mention you have info on some people, then how is it hard for you to believe that others may have info on other people?

All of our role pm's may of had some flavour added to them.

strike wolf wrote:Well who are these other people vio? Rigght now I wouldn't be against both of you being lynched/killed.


Not really sure how to respond to this, but didn't want to ignore it either. I don't see the need to "out" anyone yet. Not everyone is bad.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2: needs a replacement

Postby TheSaxlad on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:55 am

Then Out the Bad ones. simples.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2: needs a replacement

Postby Commander9 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:17 am

I already shared what I knew about others - 00 was town and no trusting Edoc.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2: needs a replacement

Postby aage on Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:54 pm

Dlanor A. Knox has replaced Xuereb.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby strike wolf on Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:58 pm

Ok I'm pretty sure vio is lying about being told not to trust multiple people so unless someone has a reason for me not to I do not see vio turning up town. vote vio

Also welcome knox.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby Dlanor A. Knox on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:19 pm

Oh god, more flavor spec. :3

And OH GOD 49 PAGES IN 2 DAYS.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby aage on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:23 pm

Dlanor A. Knox wrote:Oh god, more flavor spec. :3

And OH GOD 49 PAGES IN 2 DAYS.

yes I know XD
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby Dlanor A. Knox on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:26 pm

WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME AAGE?

Aage:"Hey! Wanna replace into a game on Day 2 for me?"

Me:"SURE~!"

Aage: "Here you go!" -gives role PM-

Me: "This is 49 fucking pages..."

Aage: "TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"

tl;dr version: ITT Aage is a bastard. :P
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby edocsil on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:42 pm

Dlanor A. Knox wrote:WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME AAGE?

Aage:"Hey! Wanna replace into a game on Day 2 for me?"

Me:"SURE~!"

Aage: "Here you go!" -gives role PM-

Me: "This is 49 fucking pages..."

Aage: "TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"

tl;dr version: ITT Aage is a bastard. :P


Heh, I figured you wouldn't replace here because of it. Welcome to the game, I hope there are no hard feelings from the SF mafia, that was a mess.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby strike wolf on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:46 pm

Dlanor A. Knox wrote:WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME AAGE?

Aage:"Hey! Wanna replace into a game on Day 2 for me?"

Me:"SURE~!"

Aage: "Here you go!" -gives role PM-

Me: "This is 49 fucking pages..."

Aage: "TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"

tl;dr version: ITT Aage is a bastard. :P

Yeah yeah less yap yap more read back.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby aage on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:04 pm

strike wolf wrote:
Dlanor A. Knox wrote:WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME AAGE?

Aage:"Hey! Wanna replace into a game on Day 2 for me?"

Me:"SURE~!"

Aage: "Here you go!" -gives role PM-

Me: "This is 49 fucking pages..."

Aage: "TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"

tl;dr version: ITT Aage is a bastard. :P

Yeah yeah less yap yap more read back.

I was about to say the same. Now that you've become part of my mysteriously dark schemes, you may as well do what you're supposed to ;)


On that note, I really thought you were aware of the fact that there were 50 pages to reread. Obviously I didn't feel like pointing it out in the PM I sent you because it's a bad ad, so I hope there are no hard feelings 8-[
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby Dlanor A. Knox on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:10 pm

aage wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
Dlanor A. Knox wrote:WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME AAGE?

Aage:"Hey! Wanna replace into a game on Day 2 for me?"

Me:"SURE~!"

Aage: "Here you go!" -gives role PM-

Me: "This is 49 fucking pages..."

Aage: "TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"

tl;dr version: ITT Aage is a bastard. :P

Yeah yeah less yap yap more read back.

I was about to say the same. Now that you've become part of my mysteriously dark schemes, you may as well do what you're supposed to ;)


On that note, I really thought you were aware of the fact that there were 50 pages to reread. Obviously I didn't feel like pointing it out in the PM I sent you because it's a bad ad, so I hope there are no hard feelings 8-[


I was just kidding. I don't mind re-reading. I just recently had to catch up in a 66 page game that was on day 3.

And that game only had 13 people in it. :S
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby TheSaxlad on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:45 pm

yeah, getting bad vibes off vioiet now, unvote vote vioiet she is too close to commander and won't asnwer our questions directly, for me thats a scum tell.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby VioIet on Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:00 am

TheSaxlad wrote:yeah, getting bad vibes off vioiet now, unvote vote vioiet she is too close to commander and won't asnwer our questions directly, for me thats a scum tell.


Which question didn't I answer? I thought I was careful to address everything- maybe not quite the way you wanted me to, but i don't see any unanswered questions?
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:54 am

Where's Flow?? Suddenly the great defender of Sax has gone quiet.

Good amount of claiming so far Knox.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby TheSaxlad on Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:51 am

Safari, Question.

Are you intentionally claiming JOAT in every game you are in? You have claimed JOAT in 2 other games now and I am starting to wonder whether you have intenionally claimed a character who could quite possibly be in the game and not arouse suspicion from the other players. We seem to have let that one slip by.

And before you claim you investigated Commander and got nothing I put forward my investigation first that could easioly have been copied.

I am in a real two minds over safari and Vi but I think that safari needs to be looked into sooner rather than later.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby TheSaxlad on Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:10 am

And Before anyone accuses me of confusing people, I have 2 main suspects in my mind at the moment.

One: VioIet
Two: Safariguy

Reasons One: VioIet claims to know about a few people in her role Pm, I would say the same of Commander but he has given a reason why he shouldn't give out names. VioIet hasn't made a reason, and just bluffed her way through most of this game shooting allegations at Commander.

Reason Two: Safari is claiming JOAT in every single game he currently participates in, and is using the cover of Naiobi to stay out of the limelight because there is no way we will lynch a JOAT and adding a name to the character makes it oh so more believable does it not.

As For Commanders Role, not because of this game, I am having a matrix day today, currently halfway throguh the second film, so when I finish I will come back hopefully with some answers.

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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby strike wolf on Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:29 am

Hmm you're right. Well does not appear he's claimed joat in all his games but in the Post Apoc. Mafia he also claimed town JOAT...
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby edocsil on Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:28 am

TheSaxlad wrote:And Before anyone accuses me of confusing people, I have 2 main suspects in my mind at the moment.

One: VioIet
Two: Safariguy

Reasons One: VioIet claims to know about a few people in her role Pm, I would say the same of Commander but he has given a reason why he shouldn't give out names. VioIet hasn't made a reason, and just bluffed her way through most of this game shooting allegations at Commander.

Reason Two: Safari is claiming JOAT in every single game he currently participates in, and is using the cover of Naiobi to stay out of the limelight because there is no way we will lynch a JOAT and adding a name to the character makes it oh so more believable does it not.

As For Commanders Role, not because of this game, I am having a matrix day today, currently halfway throguh the second film, so when I finish I will come back hopefully with some answers.

P.S, Did You Know the Merovingian wrote a dessert program that can gave a woman in the matrix an orgasm... :)


But of course. Disappointing that the Haggis thing has been relatively ignored.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby TheSaxlad on Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:05 am

Oh haggis has not been ignored at all.

not on the forefront of my radar at the moment, but he will be.

I feel that the best person to lynch would be safari, he has been giving off the scummiest signs.

And you edoc have been lying to us, so. FOS Haggis,VioIet, Edoc.

unvote vote safari

I think its now pointless to discuss role flavours and that we should come to a conclusion on a lynch, we cannot afford a no-lynch like day 1.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby edocsil on Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:13 am

TheSaxlad wrote:Oh haggis has not been ignored at all.

not on the forefront of my radar at the moment, but he will be.

I feel that the best person to lynch would be safari, he has been giving off the scummiest signs.

And you edoc have been lying to us, so. FOS Haggis,VioIet, Edoc.

unvote vote safari

I think its now pointless to discuss role flavours and that we should come to a conclusion on a lynch, we cannot afford a no-lynch like day 1.


Play nice sax, I have not been lying, at least not in this game, just the SF one.... If you have something to actually call me out on do so, if not cut the shit.
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Re: Matrix mafia Day 2

Postby Commander9 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:15 am

TheSaxlad wrote:Oh haggis has not been ignored at all.

not on the forefront of my radar at the moment, but he will be.

I feel that the best person to lynch would be safari, he has been giving off the scummiest signs.

And you edoc have been lying to us, so. FOS Haggis,VioIet, Edoc.

unvote vote safari

I think its now pointless to discuss role flavours and that we should come to a conclusion on a lynch, we cannot afford a no-lynch like day 1.


Personally, I don't think Haggis has been THAT bad and I'd rather look into other cases. I think we can try to track Safari and see what we get, while at least forcing Vio to claim and if she'd turn out to be scum, we get Edoc. If not, Edoc might still be scum (unless she's the bodyguard and innocent), but I'd consider him a bit more legit, because say how you want it, a SURVIVOR FACTION that only has to survive in such a game does not make sense.
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