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[jak111]

Ok, final comments before end of day: pcm has been fairly quiet today; even if jak dies, he should be revived... thats it I guess.

'Should'.. Famous last words. No offense Doom, but I don't want to be PCM's guinea pig. Besides, if he is to die tonight shouldn't we be testing an unclaimed person? Just my two cents on the whole revival thing. Besides, if everyone is so afraid of PCM dying, why kill me now? My role can essentially protect him if I target a scum with him. To me it sounds like you're trying to get rid of the protection roles. To even further prove PCM and I are town, have Neb stalk PCM and he will see me visit and he will see who PCM 'revives'. Also he will see anyone else who tries to touch PCM.

But you know, that's a time waster there.

[DoomYoshi]

by pcm, you of course mean pmc. I don't think killing random unclaimed's is better. Your role isn't all that useful as it adds to the confusion of night. The less we are able to figure out about the night, the worse. Tracker/Watcher is a killer combo and a reviver is an amazingly useful role.

I don't know why pmc wanted to die without claiming, perhaps he could elucidate that.

[jak111]

by pcm, you of course mean pmc. I don't think killing random unclaimed's is better. Your role isn't all that useful as it adds to the confusion of night. The less we are able to figure out about the night, the worse. Tracker/Watcher is a killer combo and a reviver is an amazingly useful role.

I don't know why pmc wanted to die without claiming, perhaps he could elucidate that.

Actually I didn't even mean pmc o.e This is there games start to fuse together in a single thought process... I meant Dazza. If I pick Dazza and another person, and Neb tracks and watches Dazza then really we're both cleared.

Unclaims give us the chance to find scum (since you're all sure they will be revived anyhow) and will give us a person to either clear or kill tomorrow. Under your scenario Doom, once I die and Dazza dies, then there's two townies that could have lived and been cleared without dying dead for the rest of the game.

I really don't like how your logic is half rushed under time pressure. Why have two dead PR townies when we can have both of them cleared, Neb cleared, AND a fourth person either cleared or target.

[pmchugh]

by pcm, you of course mean pmc. I don't think killing random unclaimed's is better. Your role isn't all that useful as it adds to the confusion of night. The less we are able to figure out about the night, the worse. Tracker/Watcher is a killer combo and a reviver is an amazingly useful role.

I don't know why pmc wanted to die without claiming, perhaps he could elucidate that.

I am really confused, stupid pancake. I just thought we would both be cleared but given the number of claims given we should definitely pick between them.

I will Unvote Dazza

I am however concerned with the logistics and some things are unclear for me. If he is able to revive up to two people including the lynched he will darn sure be targeted for death by mafia.

It will also effect town as mafia can be returned to the mix as well.

Guys I will be heading to work for a bit and wont be back till 9 pm if traffic is good.

I will Vote Jak

He tends to take criticism and opinions about his game play way to personnel, or at least pretends to, and then uses it as an excuse/argument against others.

I don't like this reasoning at all, none of it says he is scum so I don't get why you voted him. FOS

Did I complain or did I think it was funny? I posted within 10 minutes of waking up. There is nothing to make a case on so I voted someone. With only 24 hours there is not time to f*ck about we just need to act quick.

You have a funny way of joking

Town overeager reviver. I must revive a player each night. I can revive 2 if I want so I am thinking there might be a few killing roles in the mix. So whoever we lynch I will have to revive as long as I don't get roleblocked I guess.

It is a role that will be tested I will prove it tonight.

This is a bizarre role. Why would it force you to revive? Wait.. that means that even if we lynch mafia then you will have to revive them. I propose that you lynch me today and revive me during the night. If I am not revived then you are lying, if I am then both of us are clear. Although if mafia can f*ck with actions this will fail, so it is very risky.


Also @jgordon you don't get it. Focusing on one player will go to shit when they are lynched or cleared, it just means you make the initial decision much sooner than we do on who to BW which means you do it on less information.

Yes I do get it PMC, But now that we have info from dazza we can decide what we do next, and still have time to possibly go for someone else by focusing on one person at a time. Instead of us individually going after the person we like least in the game for instance.

The other way we still would have votes on three or four players and running out of time.

This is just plain wrong. Look how many claims we have, and yet we have virtually no information either. Pre-claim info is what is needed day 1.

Since he will be revived and the deadline is "soonish" I may as well unvote vote jak to prove both his and dazzas calims.

Also jak, if we do this then other peoples roles can be put to more use, clearing more players.

[pancakemix]

I've been quiet because I'm really lost right now. I could hammer jak, but that would kinda be a dick move. His role actually sounds pretty neat, IMO. On the other hand, he's the only hope of a lynch left today, but I still think his role could be worth keeping around.

I am really confused, stupid pancake.

I was here first.

[pmchugh]

I've been quiet because I'm really lost right now. I could hammer jak, but that would kinda be a dick move. His role actually sounds pretty neat, IMO. On the other hand, he's the only hope of a lynch left today, but I still think his role could be worth keeping around.

I am really confused, stupid pancake.

I was here first.

I already hammered him. You should have stepped aside long ago when the real deal showed up.

[pancakemix]

I've been quiet because I'm really lost right now. I could hammer jak, but that would kinda be a dick move. His role actually sounds pretty neat, IMO. On the other hand, he's the only hope of a lynch left today, but I still think his role could be worth keeping around.

I am really confused, stupid pancake.

I was here first.

I already hammered him. You should have stepped aside long ago when the real deal showed up.

I got fastposted. I just left it as it was.

[jak111]

I've been quiet because I'm really lost right now. I could hammer jak, but that would kinda be a dick move. His role actually sounds pretty neat, IMO. On the other hand, he's the only hope of a lynch left today, but I still think his role could be worth keeping around.

I am really confused, stupid pancake.

I was here first.

Aye, you're late bud. They are trying to get rid of the protective roles, so I doubt Dazza will get through the night, and that being said they probably never stopped to think that perhaps / is taking kill NA's over Revival NA's making Dazza useless for revival tonight.

But keep an eye on PMC, he came in to hammer pretty quickly even with the thing I said we could prove it with. Would you really want to lynch a protective role? Your last sentence made no sense because if I target Dazza and another player then I couldn't 'stop' anyone's NA's on scum if Dazza is town. -.- You skimmed that completely. It sounds like you and Doom just wanted me out of the way once that was suggested.

Fastposted

[Nebuchadnezer]

Dazza I was attempting to build against NEB,and when I called him for skimming he couldnt figure out what I meant by it.

In his post he said I fastposted him with a vote, I did no such a thing.

How can you say that? I started my post, then got taken away for family things, then finished my post and was alerted to you post. I then had to rewrite my post and get my role, etc...so, maybe not "fastposted" in the traditional sense...more like I was slow posting.

Anyway, please don't try to direct me...that's just funny. I will do whatever I please. I'm guessing everyone in this game has an interesting Power, so it will be fun to pick my target.

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jak111 (5) - dazza2008, Iron Butterfly, Nebuchadnezer, DoomYoshi, pmchugh
pmchugh (1) - jgordon1111
Nebuchadnezer (1) - jak111
vodean (1) - pancakemix
DoomYoshi (1) - vodean


Jak, Third Party Finger-pointer has been lynched, night one begins!

[jak111]

Jak, Third Party Finger-pointer has been lynched, night one begins!

I admit that I fake claimed.. But not even I knew I was a third party o.e...

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I put in one actual rule, and I'm too strict?
grrr.... don't make me erase you

[vodean]

jak, so what is your role actually?
also, it was really annoying that the role PMs did not have alignment or win conditions...

its nice that this game has no rule about night posting. now we can discuss cases for tomorrow, to the extent that that is possible without the N1 results.

[Iron Butterfly]

jak, so what is your role actually?
also, it was really annoying that the role PMs did not have alignment or win conditions...

its nice that this game has no rule about night posting. now we can discuss cases for tomorrow, to the extent that that is possible without the N1 results.

Jak can not talk while dead.

I would ask him the same question though. As third party I would assume his win condition would be sepoerate from town win condition.

The question that now arises is that if Dazza revives Jak what do we do with him as Musician does not sound like a Finger Pointer. I also do not trust Jak to have the best interests of town.

[jgordon1111]

Dazza I was attempting to build against NEB,and when I called him for skimming he couldnt figure out what I meant by it.

In his post he said I fastposted him with a vote, I did no such a thing.

How can you say that? I started my post, then got taken away for family things, then finished my post and was alerted to you post. I then had to rewrite my post and get my role, etc...so, maybe not "fastposted" in the traditional sense...more like I was slow posting.

Anyway, please don't try to direct me...that's just funny. I will do whatever I please. I'm guessing everyone in this game has an interesting Power, so it will be fun to pick my target.

Ok none of what you just said made any sense at all. I voted on a post well in front of you,then I made a statement right in front of you and then you say I fastposted you with a vote.

And in what way am I trying to direct you,by saying some of the statements you have made would be scum tell in most circumstances.
other than that I cant recall telling you to do anything at all.

your last statement about picking your target leaves alot in the air for you to explain tomorrow.

last but not least your telling us you have made several posts and didnt know what your role even was. Hmmmmm.

Not really buying into that idea to much.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Dazza I was attempting to build against NEB,and when I called him for skimming he couldnt figure out what I meant by it.

In his post he said I fastposted him with a vote, I did no such a thing.

How can you say that? I started my post, then got taken away for family things, then finished my post and was alerted to you post. I then had to rewrite my post and get my role, etc...so, maybe not "fastposted" in the traditional sense...more like I was slow posting.

Anyway, please don't try to direct me...that's just funny. I will do whatever I please. I'm guessing everyone in this game has an interesting Power, so it will be fun to pick my target.

Ok none of what you just said made any sense at all. I voted on a post well in front of you,then I made a statement right in front of you and then you say I fastposted you with a vote.

And in what way am I trying to direct you,by saying some of the statements you have made would be scum tell in most circumstances.
other than that I cant recall telling you to do anything at all.

your last statement about picking your target leaves alot in the air for you to explain tomorrow.

last but not least your telling us you have made several posts and didnt know what your role even was. Hmmmmm.

Not really buying into that idea to much.

You're really going to get stuck on my fastposted comment? You're going to make a case out of that?

The directing was more directed at jak...he was telling me to do this or that to clear us. Nobody should direct anyone. I don't play that way.

How does me picking a target leave a lot for me to explain? Again, I'm fairly new, so I must be missing something. I'm a watcher/tracker. I have to target someone in order to actually watch/track them. And yes, I will report back tomorrow.

And finally, I knew my role, but I wasn't going to post some half-assed explanation like jak did. I quoted that post exactly, which required me to back out of my post, and go find my message, then quote it, then repost my message.

Now, I stuck to jak on my vote, because he was clearly playing badly. His overreactions, and his OMGUS was the big tell. I'm picking up on the same problems with Jgordon. He's not even making any sense with his arguments. It's like he's grasping at straws to try and pin me as scum.

However, if others agree with JGordon, please let me know. I think I've explained myself clearly enough, but I'm still new, so I may be making a bungle of it all...

[jgordon1111]

Dazza I was attempting to build against NEB,and when I called him for skimming he couldnt figure out what I meant by it.

In his post he said I fastposted him with a vote, I did no such a thing.

How can you say that? I started my post, then got taken away for family things, then finished my post and was alerted to you post. I then had to rewrite my post and get my role, etc...so, maybe not "fastposted" in the traditional sense...more like I was slow posting.

Anyway, please don't try to direct me...that's just funny. I will do whatever I please. I'm guessing everyone in this game has an interesting Power, so it will be fun to pick my target.

Ok none of what you just said made any sense at all. I voted on a post well in front of you,then I made a statement right in front of you and then you say I fastposted you with a vote.

And in what way am I trying to direct you,by saying some of the statements you have made would be scum tell in most circumstances.
other than that I cant recall telling you to do anything at all.

your last statement about picking your target leaves alot in the air for you to explain tomorrow.

last but not least your telling us you have made several posts and didnt know what your role even was. Hmmmmm.

Not really buying into that idea to much.

You're really going to get stuck on my fastposted comment? You're going to make a case out of that?

The directing was more directed at jak...he was telling me to do this or that to clear us. Nobody should direct anyone. I don't play that way.

How does me picking a target leave a lot for me to explain? Again, I'm fairly new, so I must be missing something. I'm a watcher/tracker. I have to target someone in order to actually watch/track them. And yes, I will report back tomorrow.

And finally, I knew my role, but I wasn't going to post some half-assed explanation like jak did. I quoted that post exactly, which required me to back out of my post, and go find my message, then quote it, then repost my message.

Now, I stuck to jak on my vote, because he was clearly playing badly. His overreactions, and his OMGUS was the big tell. I'm picking up on the same problems with Jgordon. He's not even making any sense with his arguments. It's like he's grasping at straws to try and pin me as scum.

However, if others agree with JGordon, please let me know. I think I've explained myself clearly enough, but I'm still new, so I may be making a bungle of it all...

You do alot of back tracking on your previous statements for some reason. You never specified you were directing any portion of your comments towards JAK.

And considering what you claim your role is,you easily end up killing a town player who has an investigative role. By the by if I turn up dead tomorrow I targeted Vodean,so if its claimed I targeted someone else thats BS.

[pmchugh]

Is it just me that thinks this is unnatural to talk at night? Also with having to be highly active during the days we could do with a break at night.

[jgordon1111]

Is it just me that thinks this is unnatural to talk at night? Also with having to be highly active during the days we could do with a break at night.

yes it is weird

[DoomYoshi]

Is it just me that thinks this is unnatural to talk at night? Also with having to be highly active during the days we could do with a break at night.

I show my support with silence.

[pancakemix]

No rule against it, doesn't bother me.

[vodean]

By the by if I turn up dead tomorrow I targeted Vodean,so if its claimed I targeted someone else thats BS.

this is what i find strange... targeting me? ok, thats fine, do what you want. but why are you so scared of dying that you state that you targeted me. also, if you survive, now no one will claim otherwise, so we can catch people in lies from that... so what was your reasoning for stating that publicly. is it in your role that you MUST?

[vodean]

By the by if I turn up dead tomorrow I targeted Vodean,so if its claimed I targeted someone else thats BS.

this is what i find strange... targeting me? ok, thats fine, do what you want. but why are you so scared of dying that you state that you targeted me. also, if you survive, now no one will claim otherwise, so we can't catch people in lies from that... so what was your reasoning for stating that publicly. is it in your role that you MUST?

sorry

[DoomYoshi]

Vodean, you are right. You should target neb to test the theory out. As long as our reviver makes it through the night, everything will be ok.

[jgordon1111]

By the by if I turn up dead tomorrow I targeted Vodean,so if its claimed I targeted someone else thats BS.

this is what i find strange... targeting me? ok, thats fine, do what you want. but why are you so scared of dying that you state that you targeted me. also, if you survive, now no one will claim otherwise, so we can't catch people in lies from that... so what was your reasoning for stating that publicly. is it in your role that you MUST?

sorry

Just making sure an accident didnt happen and to let all know my targeting you would not in anyway affect you or any actions you might take.

Fastposted by Doom