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Postby CrabNebula on Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:38 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:its a risk i think we should take....otherwise we lose one of us and we havent even tried to get one of them.

also i just thought, maybe crab is scum...and he wants a role list cos hes been told his other scum and that he thinks(cos hes a newbie) that scum get to know all the roles. is that posible?


Chance of getting a mafia is (enter no. of mafia here) / 13 while chance of getting good people is (13-no. of mafia here)/13. Generally mafia percentage is 25. So you have a 75% chance of lynching a good person. So no.

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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:41 am

never thought about it likle that.
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Postby CrabNebula on Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:42 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:u cant get that either nobhead

and cena accused me. but i dont vote for him to get own back. it ill even role claim if it is allowed. u cant quote but u can say its ur position, even if u have no proof, but then if someone claims it then u can all vote for me. how bout that?


If you can only counter accusations by flaming someone, it shows you either

1) don't have the capacity of playing mafia intelligently or

2) you are a mafia and have nothing better to say in your defense.

So stop posting before you embarass yourself even more!
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Postby cena-rules on Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:44 am

CrabNebula wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:u cant get that either nobhead

and cena accused me. but i dont vote for him to get own back. it ill even role claim if it is allowed. u cant quote but u can say its ur position, even if u have no proof, but then if someone claims it then u can all vote for me. how bout that?


If you can only counter accusations by flaming someone, it shows you either

1) don't have the capacity of playing mafia intelligently or

2) you are a mafia and have nothing better to say in your defense.

So stop posting before you embarass yourself even more!


Im beginning to like this guy
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:45 am

no, i simply said u were asking a stpud question and i hoped by being harsh u wouldnt ask again or even defend wanting it. also why not comment on the actual main part fo the post...okay?
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Postby CrabNebula on Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:51 am

Ok, main part of the post was role-claiming. Now lets see what you get by role-claiming. You expose yourself and mafia go after you next turn (unless there is a Bullet Proof Vest in the game and you are that). Meanwhile, this turn theres a 75% chance of an innocent getting lynched. So you get both of yourselves dead while the mafia make merry.

Conclusion: Not profitable. Period.
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:53 am

so u suggest i just i go out of the game. alsoi know if u wait one person knows im good. honest, wait till the time ui have to have voted for me if u are gonna lynch me.
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:07 am

I am Catherine Willows and i am town mason.

so anyone wanna lie and say that they are that
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Postby cena-rules on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:08 am

why did you claim without many votes on you?
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:09 am

because i was gonna go out anyway, i got fuked up by crab and u there both working at taking me out.
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Postby cena-rules on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:10 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:because i was gonna go out anyway, i got fuked up by crab and u there both working at taking me out.


I was working with him?

All I did was vote you for saying that we needed a lynch and then slip in a mention that I like him. However I have found you to be truthful so will

unvote
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:12 am

yes well i havrent played mafia for ages so am a bit rusty...but u gotta come back somewhere
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Postby cena-rules on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:13 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:yes well i havrent played mafia for ages so am a bit rusty...but u gotta come back somewhere


NFC was your last 1
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:13 am

yeah, that was 2 months ago. i did okay in that one
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Postby CrabNebula on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:18 am

You dug the grave yourself dude, making one mistake after another.

And I don't know what the f*ck is a mason, which is why I asked for the role list, what character does what.
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Postby cena-rules on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:21 am

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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:24 am

okay, and i know i did. i made one mistake and u wouldnt let off though, so it was a bit unfair but i guess u have to be very careful
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Postby unriggable on Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:21 pm

Okay. Lotsa debating going on. Mostly just noob arguing.

I'm still a bit suspicious of LSU Tiger Josh since he took my questioning of the rules as a sign if scummery (word?) which is evidently not the case. Anybody who is scum will try to make themselves as transparent and innocent-looking as possible, and I'm doing exactly the opposite. Evidently LSU thinks that a mafia will use reverse psychology of what I just presented to make themselves appear as town. Not really - haven't seen it happen in any game. BTW sam_levi - roleclaim not a good idea. You'll be hunted tonight.
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:34 pm

whats the difference. i would have been lynched by you and then another townie would have been too so at least this way i can stop that happening
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Postby XGSuperstar on Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:50 pm

...

CrabNebula wrote:
cena-rules wrote:we dont

need

a lynch


exactly, only a mafia needs lynch

vote sam

Oh, also by "role list", I meant what are the roles in the game, and not who are those roles. I should vote whoever was dumb enough not to realize that, but I will keep this vote...


The town's ONLY way of winning is through the lynch, if the town DOESN'T lynch, then the town CAN'T win. Mafia can just kill them during the night. Also, this is day 1, almost anyone can get lynched the first day. Doesn't mean you can just go after anyone though, but town dying the first day is at a very high rate.

CrabNebula wrote:Ok, main part of the post was role-claiming. Now lets see what you get by role-claiming. You expose yourself and mafia go after you next turn (unless there is a Bullet Proof Vest in the game and you are that). Meanwhile, this turn theres a 75% chance of an innocent getting lynched. So you get both of yourselves dead while the mafia make merry.

Conclusion: Not profitable. Period.


Its not so cut and dry like that. Often, roleclaiming is a good strategy, when the time is right. See, there is a role called the doctor, which can protect people from dying. For example, the cop can roleclaim, and if the mafia target him, the cop will be protected. So they CANNOT kill the cop, they will have to kill people randomly looking for the doctor. That's the mafia's first priority, killing the doctor.

unriggable wrote:Okay. Lotsa debating going on. Mostly just noob arguing.

I'm still a bit suspicious of LSU Tiger Josh since he took my questioning of the rules as a sign if scummery (word?) which is evidently not the case. Anybody who is scum will try to make themselves as transparent and innocent-looking as possible, and I'm doing exactly the opposite. Evidently LSU thinks that a mafia will use reverse psychology of what I just presented to make themselves appear as town. Not really - haven't seen it happen in any game. BTW sam_levi - roleclaim not a good idea. You'll be hunted tonight.


But they do. If exposing yourself made someone automatically look like town, ALL the mafia are going to start doing it. Also, if Sam gets killed tonight, then that's not too bad, that's a lesser chance that the mafia will hit the doc. The point is not to survive at all costs but to help your faction [unless you are a survivor].

A Mason is a townie that can speak to other masons during the night.
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:04 pm

XGSuperstar wrote:The town's ONLY way of winning is through the lynch, if the town DOESN'T lynch, then the town CAN'T win. Mafia can just during the night. Also, this is day 1, almost anyone can get lynched the first day. Doesn't mean you can just go after anyone though, but town dying the first day is at a very high rate.


thats what i was saying but them two suspicious people forved me into roleclaiming

FOS cena

crab seemed genuine to me
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Postby cena-rules on Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:05 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:
XGSuperstar wrote:The town's ONLY way of winning is through the lynch, if the town DOESN'T lynch, then the town CAN'T win. Mafia can just during the night. Also, this is day 1, almost anyone can get lynched the first day. Doesn't mean you can just go after anyone though, but town dying the first day is at a very high rate.


thats what i was saying but them two suspicious people forved me into roleclaiming

FOS cena

crab seemed genuine to me


huh

honestly how did I force you

I said you shouldnt :roll:
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Postby duday53 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:47 pm

CrabNebula wrote:
cena-rules wrote:we dont

need

a lynch


exactly, only a mafia needs lynch

vote sam

Oh, also by "role list", I meant what are the roles in the game, and not who are those roles. I should vote whoever was dumb enough not to realize that, but I will keep this vote...
you still cant get that. You can only assume how mant mafia there are, if there is an sk, vigliante, or another killing role/investiagtive/protective power roles
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Postby XGSuperstar on Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:00 pm

duday53 wrote:
CrabNebula wrote:
cena-rules wrote:we dont

need

a lynch


exactly, only a mafia needs lynch

vote sam

Oh, also by "role list", I meant what are the roles in the game, and not who are those roles. I should vote whoever was dumb enough not to realize that, but I will keep this vote...
you still cant get that. You can only assume how mant mafia there are, if there is an sk, vigliante, or another killing role/investiagtive/protective power roles


He means for ALL mafia games. He's a newbie. :P
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Postby misterman10 on Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:43 pm

VOTE COUNT

sam_levi_11
KiwiTaker
LSU Tiger Josh (1): Minister Masket
Syzygy
XenCobra
CrabNebula
cena-rules
Strider24
unriggable (2): LSU Tiger, Syzygy
Minister Masket
NESconqueror
pancakemix
Fircoal (1): life-saver
duday53 (1): XenCobra
Hitman079
XGSuperstar
life-saver (5): Fircoal, NESconq, KiwiTaker, XGSuperstar, sam

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