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Postby Anarkistsdream on Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:19 pm

LSU, school is 12000 more important. Rock on bro...

And I'm still innocent. I have voted myself and under no circumstance will I unvote. I am putting my faith n the town.

If you guys want someone else out, vote them, but freakin' hurry.
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Postby Koesen on Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:29 pm

Vote Kalishnikov
because Ga7 seems to know what he's doing :)
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:32 pm

With that said though, I'm not insistant that AD is the one that has to be lynched today. I just find him suspicious for how he acted, but personally wouldn't mind seeing any of the three cults lose a member. Unvote Vote Kalish since GA did bring out a good point about how AD is most likely not the cult leader although it is still a possability that bears further investigation in the future or if we have a dead end for that day.
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Postby ga7 on Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:00 pm

Well I'm not suspicious of LSU as he has a good reason to be not so active, right now on the people laying low I'm a bit more suspicious of Mtg...
In case we are right about Kalish, I suggest the vig offs AD for the good of town... Else not sure, but we definitely should be able to sort it out in the next day...
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Postby The1exile on Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:16 am

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Kalish: ga7, Koesen, Josh (3)
AD: Neut, AD (2)
PCM: firth (1)

With 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

Deadline is in about 2 days time.
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Postby Neutrino on Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:43 am

Hmmm, it's just me and AD himself with votes for AD.


Although my last post didn't reflect it (forgot a paragraph at the end :? ) I consider AD and Kalish equally lynchable and Kalish's claim that he's a townie merely reinforces that.

I'll Unvote for now, but won't put another vote on Kalish as I have never been in favor of speed-lynching (even though it isn't very speedy).
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Postby Sierra_Leon on Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:44 am

Between Kalish and PCM, I think Kalish has at least put up some sensible defence, whilst PCM is still only popping in now and then with a small, insignificant post. I feel like PCM could contribute much more if he wanted to, but is trying to lay low.

Vote PCM.


PS: I'm going on a weekend trip, so I might not have internet access again until sunday evening. Just so you know.
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Postby firth4eva on Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:05 am

Thats right i am a plain old harper. just started as a mason to cena and can confirm that the cults only start with 2 members. i am currently vanilla seeing as cena is dead though.
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Postby kalishnikov on Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:15 am

ga7 wrote:First, I was obviously talking about the previous day. Considering we almost had a no-lynch on a talos recruit, it's only logical the ones who avoided voting him have the most suspicion.

Second, this is not only an assumption as it has been pretty much proven by facts, with Nes' Paladin of Lathander (Elite bodyguard) role, that there were some power roles that had a god, but weren't part of the cult itself. If all power roles could be recruited, I or the 2 power roles that I investigated would have had a high chance of being recruited. The 2 cult members that we lynched were townies. 2+2+3 = 7 :mrgreen:

Third, I said if you are not plainly lying, then the townie role that could change upon a certain condition seems dangerous to me. We're in the middle of cults, so unless you have a link to another character, the possibility your role changes if you're recruited comes naturally to mind, no? As for investigations, last night showed me that even when I

investigate someone he can turn cult in the same damn night without me knowing it. So I'd rather avoid wasting time on claimed townies really...

Fourth, AD is an exception as he would be a likely target for investigation at this point. But Sierra & me have already pointed out that we badly need to nail the Cult Leader, not Recruits. And whether AD is lying or not, which I'm inclined to think is the latter considering the ultra quick wagon on him as a mean of distraction, there's no way he's the leader. At worse he's lathander.

Fifth, true. I read your explanation about condition and thought WC. Anyway the point remains the whole thing is fishy. I can't count how many times scum claimed townie (locked role) to save their asses.

Sixth, since you claimed townie and you and Skittles have both provided pretty solid reasons to have my suspicion, as with Kwanton's case, I see no cons to your lynch. If you're really the townie you claim to be, we'll know what to do tonight. But I still think you're the most likely to be cult at this point.

Seventh, just wanted a seventh. Night scummies :mrgreen:


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Postby pancakemix on Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:26 am

Sierra_Leon wrote:Between Kalish and PCM, I think Kalish has at least put up some sensible defence, whilst PCM is still only popping in now and then with a small, insignificant post. I feel like PCM could contribute much more if he wanted to, but is trying to lay low.

Vote PCM.


PS: I'm going on a weekend trip, so I might not have internet access again until sunday evening. Just so you know.


I'm not posting because there's no evidence. All I'm reading is "He might be scum, Vote teh n00b" and you can say that about anybody. You could be scum.
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Postby kalishnikov on Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:28 am

And since it's getting close, I'll throw this out there.

I'm the Mercenary Captain. When a certain condition is fulfilled, it looks like I become a vig. Don't want to add to the 'certain condition' as it may put other townies in danger and theres no reason we should lose more then one if you lynch me.
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Postby ga7 on Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:45 am

Thanks Kalish :oops: (if it wasn't sarcasm that is :lol:)
Well, I see nothing wrong with your claim... Except I'm more worried now that you could turn into a cult vig :P
Well, we still have time to think about it.

Bit weak defense PCM...
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:49 am

pancakemix wrote:
Sierra_Leon wrote:Between Kalish and PCM, I think Kalish has at least put up some sensible defence, whilst PCM is still only popping in now and then with a small, insignificant post. I feel like PCM could contribute much more if he wanted to, but is trying to lay low.

Vote PCM.


PS: I'm going on a weekend trip, so I might not have internet access again until sunday evening. Just so you know.


I'm not posting because there's no evidence. All I'm reading is "He might be scum, Vote teh n00b" and you can say that about anybody. You could be scum.



We all know, however, that not posting at all, even just to mention the lack of evidence, makes you look bad.

Personally, I don't nkow if you are guilty or not, but it really is down to you or Kalish after reading through the last few pages.
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Postby kalishnikov on Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:06 pm

ga7 wrote:Thanks Kalish :oops: (if it wasn't sarcasm that is :lol:)
Well, I see nothing wrong with your claim... Except I'm more worried now that you could turn into a cult vig :P
Well, we still have time to think about it.

Bit weak defense PCM...


Not sarcasm at all.

And I agree with your worry. I think that it could be a possibility if I'm recruited, I won't deny that; but it can also, and I think more likely (again don't wanna go any more into it for fear of outing other townies) be useful to the town.

However, if you can't find any other logical lynches, feel free to get me. I don't say that in the "gave-up-and-done with this game" way, I say that in the "I understand that my role could potentially be a threat" way.

I'd prefer to stick around, but I understand and agree with the motives for my lynch. If the situation was reversed, I'd vote for me if there were no other "good" candidates.

But if you lynch me, make sure the town wins. It seems every time I'm town lately they lynch me, then hand the game to the scum later on.
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Postby ga7 on Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:22 pm

Hmm... Damn you for instilling doubt in me. ATM if you're scum you're doing a terrific job :lol:
We're faced with 2 choices. Both could go wrong. The fact you find your lynch reasonable makes me want to pressure PCM since he feels so detached right now that he doesn't care to provide us with a defense. I'll let my vote stay in any case, as things might go quickly... I'll check back tomorrow when my brain is working. I just hope that we're right narrowing down the options with you 2, if it's the case no matter the lynch we can definitely pull it off.
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Postby XGSuperstar on Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:13 pm

No one seems suspicious to me, I suck hardcore. :P

Unvote Vote PCM, for wanting a smite free protection even though that does not satisfy a normal townie's win condition. And for dropping in and out.

Imagine if Ga7 was scum, if he was, he would be laughing right now, but I am unsure...

Also, LSU, school is a reasonable excuse. I suffer from it too.
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Postby The1exile on Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:30 pm

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Kalish: ga7, Koesen, Josh (3)
AD: AD (1)
PCM: firth, Sierra, XGS (3)

With 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

Deadline is in about 36 hours.
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Postby pancakemix on Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:57 pm

XGSuperstar wrote:No one seems suspicious to me, I suck hardcore. :P

Unvote Vote PCM, for wanting a smite free protection even though that does not satisfy a normal townie's win condition. And for dropping in and out.

Imagine if Ga7 was scum, if he was, he would be laughing right now, but I am unsure...

Also, LSU, school is a reasonable excuse. I suffer from it too.


Weren't you recruited by a mason?

I already explained my lack of posting and how would I know that one god in particular was or wasn't evil? So having a god of unknown alignment not smiting you is bad?

No one seems to be sure of anything. That's why I've got no input

Same. At least I have a 4 day weekend. :D
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Postby firth4eva on Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:58 pm

pancakemix wrote:
XGSuperstar wrote:No one seems suspicious to me, I suck hardcore. :P

Unvote Vote PCM, for wanting a smite free protection even though that does not satisfy a normal townie's win condition. And for dropping in and out.

Imagine if Ga7 was scum, if he was, he would be laughing right now, but I am unsure...

Also, LSU, school is a reasonable excuse. I suffer from it too.


Weren't you recruited by a mason?

I already explained my lack of posting and how would I know that one god in particular was or wasn't evil? So having a god of unknown alignment not smiting you is bad?

No one seems to be sure of anything. That's why I've got no input

Same. At least I have a 4 day weekend. :D


definately vote pcm the bitch
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Postby pancakemix on Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:58 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Sierra_Leon wrote:Between Kalish and PCM, I think Kalish has at least put up some sensible defence, whilst PCM is still only popping in now and then with a small, insignificant post. I feel like PCM could contribute much more if he wanted to, but is trying to lay low.

Vote PCM.


PS: I'm going on a weekend trip, so I might not have internet access again until sunday evening. Just so you know.


I'm not posting because there's no evidence. All I'm reading is "He might be scum, Vote teh n00b" and you can say that about anybody. You could be scum.



We all know, however, that not posting at all, even just to mention the lack of evidence, makes you look bad.

Personally, I don't nkow if you are guilty or not, but it really is down to you or Kalish after reading through the last few pages.


When did that happen? I must have missed something.
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Postby XGSuperstar on Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:11 pm

pancakemix wrote:
XGSuperstar wrote:No one seems suspicious to me, I suck hardcore. :P

Unvote Vote PCM, for wanting a smite free protection even though that does not satisfy a normal townie's win condition. And for dropping in and out.

Imagine if Ga7 was scum, if he was, he would be laughing right now, but I am unsure...

Also, LSU, school is a reasonable excuse. I suffer from it too.


Weren't you recruited by a mason?

I already explained my lack of posting and how would I know that one god in particular was or wasn't evil? So having a god of unknown alignment not smiting you is bad?

No one seems to be sure of anything. That's why I've got no input

Same. At least I have a 4 day weekend. :D


Yes I was, however, my scum radar sucks. I can't catch people in lies too easily. My normal bit of usefulness is only finding remotely scummy posts and jumping bandwagons that make sense. Only rarely can I find something on my own.

Smite free protection from an obviously scummy diety. You win with the town, unless you are a survivor your death shouldn't matter, as you can still win if you are DEAD.

I will have to agree with you there.

Imagine if AD was the scum, and he voted himself to remove suspicion... Weird. :P It'd just be funny.

I have a 4 day weekend too, but I take the SAT on Saturday.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:32 pm

It wouldn't be the first time that has happened :) which is why it was suggested that a vigilante kill off ad at night.
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Postby Neutrino on Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:41 pm

kalishnikov wrote:
ga7 wrote:Thanks Kalish :oops: (if it wasn't sarcasm that is :lol:)
Well, I see nothing wrong with your claim... Except I'm more worried now that you could turn into a cult vig :P
Well, we still have time to think about it.

Bit weak defense PCM...


Not sarcasm at all.

And I agree with your worry. I think that it could be a possibility if I'm recruited, I won't deny that; but it can also, and I think more likely (again don't wanna go any more into it for fear of outing other townies) be useful to the town.

However, if you can't find any other logical lynches, feel free to get me. I don't say that in the "gave-up-and-done with this game" way, I say that in the "I understand that my role could potentially be a threat" way.

I'd prefer to stick around, but I understand and agree with the motives for my lynch. If the situation was reversed, I'd vote for me if there were no other "good" candidates.

But if you lynch me, make sure the town wins. It seems every time I'm town lately they lynch me, then hand the game to the scum later on.


Vote: Kalish

I've never trusted people who claim they are Ok with being lynched. They always have a hidden agenda.

(I know a vote might be a little extreme at this stage, but the game has slawed down a bit and I want to get it moving again)
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Postby The1exile on Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:39 pm

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Postby The1exile on Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:15 am

Vote Count
Kalish: ga7, Koesen, Josh, Neut (4)
AD: AD (1)
PCM: firth, Sierra, XGS (3)

With 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

Deadline is in less than 24 hours.
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