Final Fantasy VII Mafia - Shinra Corporation and Elena win

[drunkmonkey]

At this point, unless a miller is a job in the game, it doesnt matter. Because if he is claiming to be a miller then he is doing exactly what WW did in claiming to have 1 role, then switching to another. In this case, VT to Miller. So, like I said. Unless the miller is, say, his job as Wedge in FF7, then he is changing his role (from VT to Miller) and therefore isnt worth being trusted anyways.

jesus you guys are stupid.

Did mafia have a post restriction to act like assholes when you're accused?

[strike wolf]

There is no need for insults here.

Zimmah did not change his claim he just suggested that miller is a possibility.

[jgordon1111]

up until that part about VT, then miller Zimmah, I was really hoping you were innocent just to shut yoshi upVote Zimmah Well like I said at least town will still have the biggest edge. GL town it was fun for a couple of days lol

[ghostly447]

Well zimmah, I dont respect you for that comment just then. I am new to the game and just assumed you would be told you were a miller and saw it as changing your role. But thanks for directing that on me, I will keep my vote on you. Could someone answer if you are told your a miller?

[strike wolf]

It depends on the mod. I don't know what Rodion does. I usually do not tell them if they are millers.

[ghostly447]

Thank you for answering strike wolf, without any nasty remarks.

[Rodion]

Vote Count

zimmah - DoomYoshi, dazza2008, Djfireside, Victor Sullivan, edocsil, ghostly447, chapcrap, jgordon1111 (L-3)

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

[zimmah]

up until that part about VT, then miller Zimmah, I was really hoping you were innocent just to shut yoshi upVote Zimmah Well like I said at least town will still have the biggest edge. GL town it was fun for a couple of days lol

miller is not a role you ussually get in a pm. when you're a miller you usually just get a pm that you are a VT.

it's a VT as well, but it just shows up guilty when investigated.

i still think i'm not a miller though, i'm just saying it may be possible.

if no busdriver claims, strike wolf should be lynched. then ofc. there could also be a mafia busdriver. so it's quite complex.

[jgordon1111]

After reading the lynch count, I have a question SW we are going off of your evidence on Zimmah,And dooms conspiracy theories,Why havent you voted yet? your answer depends on whether I withdraw my vote or not. And No Doom I really dont care what you draw from my statement,Be cause while I semi trust strike as his role has been basically confirmed, I just really dont trust your motives.

[Victor Sullivan]

Sh-pow!

Vote zimmah

-Sully

Classic Sully post. I don't know how you ever make it to the end of a game.

It's odd that zimmah has not shown up. He is usually pretty active. Vote count?

He's only posted once since the beginning of the day in Interesting mafia.

If it wasn't Sully I would think that he's scum for his last two days. Not much contribution overall. Still worthy of an FOS.

What more do you want from me today? It's a basic follow-the-cop. And yesterday was all about Heidegger, and I thought I at least wasn't "Sullyposting". But, then again, I don't care that much. It's not really beneficial to me to be an active "townie".

-Sully

[strike wolf]

With the framer dead. I felt it would be safe to observe the prime suspect from yesterday. Zimmah is scum. Before we speed lynch let's hear some other opinions.

For the record duke. A framer makes a townie appear guilty on investigation.

I still feel there are people we haven't heard from. Like Comm9 who said yesterday he had a lead.

[jgordon1111]

SW could you answer my question about why you havent voted yet?

[strike wolf]

With the framer dead. I felt it would be safe to observe the prime suspect from yesterday. Zimmah is scum. Before we speed lynch let's hear some other opinions.

For the record duke. A framer makes a townie appear guilty on investigation.

I still feel there are people we haven't heard from. Like Comm9 who said yesterday he had a lead.

Sorry guess this wasn't clear but this is my reason.

[ghostly447]

Thats a good point SW. And I really feel weird about jgordon now. Went with zimmah, then against, now he seems like he is trying to get zimmah out of it by doing exactly what he DIDNT WANT TO DO on D2, and that is question more people. Or am I getting people confused now? I am pretty sure that jgordon was trying to say we dont want to stray too far from the currently accused player.

[jgordon1111]

unvote zimmah for now then,If the investigator isnt going to vote for him yet because commander9 might have something important to tell us then I wont vote for him yet either

[edocsil]

unvote zimmah for now then,If the investigator isnt going to vote for him yet because commander9 might have something important to tell us then I wont vote for him yet either

Waffling. Not impressed.

[strike wolf]

Also I reviewed and it looks like I forgot to mention this but. It's flawed to rely on the role blocker as to who he blocked as there are a lot of other options. The target could have been protected, another role with roleblocking side effects could have visited mafia, the role block target could have been busdriven with the real mafia who was blocked...etc.

[jgordon1111]

Edoc,ghostly, I am usually careful by nature. And yes I am waffling. I thought I Had a sound reason to vote Zimmah. But 2 things have now made me change my mind about voting Zimmah, 1st SW says its possible for him to be a miller and VT ( I thought he did what WW did and changed roles) 2nd SW has not voted for Zimmah because of commander9 last post,so maybe they know something I dont and can help. Either way I will be waffler for now because of those 2 reasons,sorry about wishy washy.

[strike wolf]

I won't say I know something about what Comm9 knows just that I respect him enough to wait to see if he has anything he wants to say.

[ghostly447]

I will unvote if it gets to the point that its needed so that C9 can say anything he needs to say then. But I will only give him 24 hours (sorry, any longer and I would probably forget to revote him) before I revote zimmah, hammer or not. Fair warning.

[jgordon1111]

then before I vote to lynch someone I will wait to see what you 2 have to say.

[DoomYoshi]

Just from memory, it seems that Vio, alt and eldario have not posted, in addition to comm9. We should wait to hear what they have to say about things.

[codierose]

vote zimif he was framed there's nothing we can about it at least it won't happen again

[zimmah]

vote zimif he was framed there's nothing we can about it at least it won't happen again

lol you believe me and still vote me?

[drake_259]

as at L-1 i would have cast the final vote on zimmah right now if it wasn't for awaiting com9 to speak. Someone will probably hammer before i do but however you do still get the lynch.

Yes you could be a miller/busdriven etc but if it wasn't via one of the town folks you will always be a suspect and with no power role your not useful so you might as well go now rather than later.