Batman Mafia~~~GOTHAM WINS!!!!!!!!

[MountainLion]

Perhaps I'm just too active. Making one post every five pages seems a better way to get through this game.

I agree with you on this point. That's why I like to make sure everyone gets involved. If certain players don't talk, you can't figure anything out on them and it's like they get a free pass.

Sometimes I look at the players list and think to myself "IGS is in this game?! It seems like he's posted once a day."

I haven't seen Fircoal post yet on Day 3...

[Koesen]

You mean someone who claims to be an actual pro townie. There is no solid proof that Mandalorian is pro town, as far as I know.

I agree that your point about the lack of a counterclaim is valid, but on the other hand, I think there are quite a few people who haven't said anything yet, so who knows?

As for the 'ignorant fool' bit, this is my 4th game. I admit I'm a noob, but I'm trying.

Finally, I am not 'crying'. I was merely expressing my amazement.

You're a bit agressive there. Am I expressing myself that badly or did you have a cup of coffee too many?

[Skoffin]

You mean someone who claims to be an actual pro townie. There is no solid proof that Mandalorian is pro town, as far as I know.

I agree that your point about the lack of a counterclaim is valid, but on the other hand, I think there are quite a few people who haven't said anything yet, so who knows?


You're a bit agressive there. Am I expressing myself that badly or did you have a cup of coffee too many?

Yes there is, he said so.

Who who counterclaim cop anyway? That's just getting a noose over your neck while you're at it.

Perhaps he is wearing his cranky pants?

[kwanton]

kwanton, how experienced are you at mafia games?

Not very but I'm quickly gaining experience. I have a few rt's under my belt and am in 4-5 right now (I say 4-5 cuz RL mafia was postponed). Heh and thanks LSU for bringing up my first game. Will I never get rid of those mistakes.....

Anyway I gotta agree with Koesen here. I'm gonna wait to vote Kalish. Once Kalish arrives to explain himself however I will decide.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

You're showing scum tales and I'm jumping on them. Look up on wikipedia and you'll find that the name he claimed is actually a pro gotham player. Is that solid proof that he is no, but it makes it a lot more likely with the way talapus has this game set up. The ones that haven't said anything should start getting killed off by the mod. It's better to focus on ones acting scummy. As I said before, there's been games where I had my disagreements with someone, but when the evidence appeared to be staring at me in the face it was worth going with it even though I didn't know for sure. You may not be crying, but you have posted multiple times about people jumping on you and wanting to lynch you instead of actually showing a sign of support to catch scumbags. To me that is crying and yes I am aggresive when I find someone I believe to be scum. Most pro town players are aggressive in that regard. You will discover that tomorrow should Mandy be able to obtain evidence for us or else if no better targets come up people go back to you over the poor way that you have expressed yourself especially in regards to voting habits should kalish turn out to be scum you would also be showign the sign of scum from guilt by association by not voting him when the evidence is telling us that he is scum.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Yes Kwaton, you are gettign much better lol. First impressions are memorable thougha nd that was your first impression in a mafia game Just like Derf brings up how he was modkilled in one you can bring up that you killed 2 pro townies in 2 nights as vigilante and still won via dumb luck

[Koesen]

1) Commas are your friend.

2) How hard is it to find a pro town name on Wikipedia? You have an awful lot of faith in Mandalorian.

3) Me not showing support to catch scumbags? Get real. The whole reason Mandalorian came after me in the first place, is that he thought my question about the identity of the bad guys was a Freudian slip that had to mean I'm scum myself.

4) Though I only finished two games so far, I read a lot of other game threads, and in every game people get lynched when they do something that is completely inconsistent with what they did two pages earlier.

5) I think Kalishnikov is at lynch -2 or -3. If I vote for him now, I'm sure it will not improve your trust of me anyway, so why not give him a chance to react first?

[kwanton]

1) Commas are your friend.

2) How hard is it to find a pro town name on Wikipedia? You have an awful lot of faith in Mandalorian.

3) Me not showing support to catch scumbags? Get real. The whole reason Mandalorian came after me in the first place, is that he thought my question about the identity of the bad guys was a Freudian slip that had to mean I'm scum myself.

4) Though I only finished two games so far, I read a lot of other game threads, and in every game people get lynched when they do something that is completely inconsistent with what they did two pages earlier.

5) I think Kalishnikov is at lynch -2 or -3. If I vote for him now, I'm sure it will not improve your trust of me anyway, so why not give him a chance to react first?

Number 5 is exactly why I'm not voting yet. No reason to put someone so close to lynch without letting him properly defend himself.

[Serbia]

I'm pretty sure that if I vote for Kalishnikov, it will be used against me tomorrow.

Almost seems scummy here Koesen. I know what you're saying, but if you are indeed scum, and you know Kalish isn't... FOS Koesen, and it's almost enough to make me unvote Kalish. not quite though

[LSU Tiger Josh]

1) I hate commas

2) Hard it's not, but without someone counterclaiming it I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt

3) Early in the game people go after each other for various reasons. He saw fit to investigate you. It may be goofy to you and to me, but that was his choice and he got his result back.
4) Actually even more get lynched via guilt by inaction. When it's early in the game, people will also look at voting records and say so and so was in on the lynches for these townies, but on these scum that were lynched, they chose not to vote on them. Likewise if you join every lynch you'll be accused of being a bandwagon unless you're one of the early voters. You need to vote ones when the evidence is pretty clear that the person is scum. If it's late in the day sometimes it is worth voting to get a lynch even if you aren't sure that person is scummy as it will tell you the role of hte person lynched and maybe get clues from who is pushing the lynch. Granted this is not full proof as sometimes protownies do make mistakes, but it gives a good reference point.

5) yes at this point you won't change my mind, however, it might influence others that will vote.

[Koesen]

What the hell...

Vote Kalishnikov

Not that it's going to make any difference. You will not believe me, but I am in fact genuinely curious as to what he will turn out to be.

If he's town, I don't take respponsibility, though.

[Koesen]

but if you are indeed scum, and you know Kalish isn't...

That argument works in most games, but not in this one. Even if I were scum and Kalishnikov was not in my team, it would be meaningless, cause no player knows what side every other player is on.

[kwanton]

Meh personally I think it was a bad idea to vote for him immediately. We have a never-ending day right? So putting him so close to lynch without a deadline is not really good. At least give him a chance to defend himself. Otherwise anybody who is "too busy" can just skim and decide it's hammer time.

[kalishnikov]

Vote Kalishnikov Your arguement for lynching Mandy is sad. Mandy gave his role name. It is a pro gotham player. Whether we know how sane he is or not is not the point. The point is he shouldn't be lynched even if he gets a bad reading from his role as he is a pro town player.

Gethine has been acting suspicious and while ML was jumping around on day 1 with accusations, I've seen worse. At best it finds out how some people react to the accusations. At worst we get 100 pages of crap(see mandy in sherwood ) Since that day though he has been picking more or less individual targets based on how he finds them acting. Could he be scum possibly, but I'm doubting it.

I never said I wanted to lynch him, he was just quiet so I figured if I voted him perhaps he'd have something to say.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Being -2 lynch is enough of a cushion unless he decides to go absent for a bit. If he hasn't posted in about 12 hours then he is fair game to lynch as he would've had 24 hours to get a defense together since he last posted. If someone comes in right now and quickly does the last 2 votes then if we were wrong about kalish then the hammering ones will be the ones to be suspicious of.

[kwanton]

Well that was a pretty damn weak defense....I thought it would be several eloquent paragraphs on social and economic reasons as to why voting you would be bad taking into account the zeitgeist of modern society (no not really). Anticlimactic to say the best.

Vote Kalish

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Yea that was weak. Somehow was fast posted by hitting reply and then going to brush my teeth for bed before typing my message.

[Koesen]

Well that was a pretty damn weak defense....

Yes, I saw him come appear on the forum and thought, "interesting, now we'll get a whole new side to the story, but it will probably take him ten minutes to write it all down".

Then I click refresh, and it's there

You know, Kalishnikov, I really have no idea what you are, but I think you just signed your own death sentence.

[Skoffin]

Yeah, little disappointing defence there. How many votes are currently on him anyway?

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I think we're at -1 for lynch on him. Given his lack of defense it should be safe enough for anyone to hammer him.

[Koesen]

I think he's at lynch -1.

[kalishnikov]

It was the first vote on him, I just wanted to see what he'd say.

I posted my rationale before I made the vote. I didn't say mandalorian is scum, nor did I say we should lynch him, I put a vote on him only to see his explanation as he was too quiet for my liking after making a roleclaim then posting the results of his investigation, not to mention we had ample reason to doubt his sanity/motives.

If you'd all like to jump on the bandwagon, feel free. Just know that lynching me will be a significant loss to the town. I'm not going to roleclaim however. If I reveal my role and don't get lynched, I'll certainly be killed tonight, which would help the town less then if you hang me wrongfully.

I'd rather let the mafia trick you townies into lynching me then claim and be night-killed. Sorry, but if you knew the role you'd understand.

Did anyone else notice all the people coming out of nowhere to vote when the lynch gets close? Like their not submarining...

[Skoffin]

I think we're at -1 for lynch on him. Given his lack of defense it should be safe enough for anyone to hammer him.

I'm thinking about it, but I think I might just give him a few more minutes for him to think if there's anything else he'd like to add.

[kalishnikov]

Yeah, little disappointing defence there. How many votes are currently on him anyway?

Jesus, I wanted to reply to that one specific post, in the like 5 minutes it took to right the next one you guys sure have jumped to an awful lot of conclusions...

[Chad22342]

It says you need a replacement. I'll play if it's ok. My role was replaced earlier when I was modkilled for inactivity but I'm back now and I don't know who took my role.