Mass Effect 1 - Thorian (Cult) Wins!

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I think Tails is with Doom, just because they both did shitty arguments against me earlier in the game, and tried to start a bandwagon. Also, as you said, Tails has been super cryptic the whole game. So yes, it will be difficult to find more info. But to me right now he is looking the most non-town.

Lol, my arguments shitty? When you're the one voting me while defending LoVo with the same argument. At least I'm consistent. I still think you're scum, or possibly cult now.

If you think Doom is the last scum, I'd actually ask you to vote for cult. Do you think Tails is cult?

Actually, that IS the reason I'm still voting Tails instead of Doom. His play was too cryptic and not helpful at all, like he doesn't care who will get lynched. Remember his "willy-nilly" theory about voting? If you don't care you can be either cult or scum, so I'll leave my vote on him.

Come off it already. You can look up previous games and check my vote usage, it's always been sparing.

-TG

[Skittles!]

Anyone who thinks me and Doom are partners have clearly forgotten our first interaction. I literally had to use my first kill to prevent him getting a bandwagon on me.

In a game with cult, what you've done previously and your previous actions really can't be used as evidence for your townness.

[DoomYoshi]

Yesterday's speed lynch was one of the summer things I've ever seen. If we just want to hit cult, I'd be veeery surprised if benga isn't cult by now, given his jailer claim and actions. We'd rather hit the leader though and we can be pretty much 100% sure benga's not the leader. There's almost certainly at least one more sum or cult in that wagon from yesterday, it's just not as easy to find as benga. Given the deadline and the chaos of the next two days for me (yay eclipse...) I'm going to vote benga.

LOL seems to me eclipse has affected you

Let's recap
I was the one that first pointed to caff, no one blinked an eye
I was the one for lynch of mitch and you with HS & rag moved to strike, yes I did lynch cause people that now talk about my 'switch' were not willing to hammer mitch

there is possiblity that mitch is a scum, but why would cult recruit a guy that was up for lynch on next day?

so either people who talk about mitch as he is cult are in cult themselves
or they know there is more than 4 scum as they are scum themselves

I already answered you on these points. I think fircoal was recruited and as a consequence lost total interest in the game that he wasn't very much participating in anyways.

It does matter, though. At the time of the votes, Strike wasn't confirmed town (unless, of course, one is privy to knowledge that town isn't), and of the two, I found him the scummiest. Hence my vote. The only thing that nags me is that hotshot flipped cult. Skittles also touched upon this. If hotshot was cult D3, he could have started the case against Strike seeing that several people (myself included) had been suspicious of him already in order to save mitch. That would indicate that mitch, lovo, and perhaps benga is cult (I don't believe Skittles is).

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For the record, I'm still in the mindset that Tails is non-town one way or the other as he continuously displays an unwillingness to do any sort of work on behalf of town. I am starting to think, however, that a tails lynch will offer less information than if we lynch from either of the two sides of the mitch argument.

Imagine we lynch mitch and he flips cult. From that information, I'd assume that at least dakky and benga are cult as well. Maybe even LoVo too. If we lynch Doom, I'm positive that MM is cult with him. Tails, I would presume, is in the Doom-MM camp, but I'm less persuaded by that.

Any thoughts, Skittles? And please, don't insult me with this:

[...]Ragian is kinda doing what he accuses Tails of doing, so I'm once again unsure of where he lays but I'm leaning townie.

I agree with you about Tails, but I don't see how we won't get much information from him. he has been cryptic about what he actually wants to achieve, true, but even from his role we can find out lots of info. if he turns out cult or scum, well that's a good thing for town, one more day to survive. I don't think that's ever an excuse, cause in mafia, everything is information. Even Tail's message about being a good little townie during the night.

As for the possibility of Mitch flipping scum, as it IS possible, even tho i think it would be so dumb for cult to flip mitch because he is such a loose cannon (see previous post) and disrupts town, then I think it would be more likely that lovo and benga are cult, rather than dakky. I agree with you about Doom, but I would say Tails is more likely cult than MM.

Oh look, making the same nonsensical point about mad itch being recruited last night. NOBODY suggested that. The theory that MM and I both came to was that the lynch yesterday was to protect madmitch who was already cult yesterday.

I would be very surprised if there is more than 4 scum total. then again this game is surprising.

look if people really want to believe that mitch is cult then lets go for it.

Im just going to come out and say it. I believe mitch is town as our roles are super close and his role claim and name claim make sense in conjunction with mine. Thats where my connection with him ends.
The only inclination I have that he may be cult is the want and need for the mod to pause voting on fircoal and re set all votes once mitch replaced. His play in itself doesnt really give me concern that he is cult.

I expect a cult is very much on the lynching mitch agenda and I think skitz breakdown of strikes lynch in regards to scum/cult/town numbers is a good representation.

This is the most bullshit reasoning of them all. First off, even if you had the exact same role as madmitch, that doesn't mean he isn't cult. Second, what lynching madmitch agenda? There are 2 of us trying to push a case uphill even though it's the only rational case. The "agenda" was the speedlynch yesterday.

[Skittles!]

I think Tails is with Doom, just because they both did shitty arguments against me earlier in the game, and tried to start a bandwagon. Also, as you said, Tails has been super cryptic the whole game. So yes, it will be difficult to find more info. But to me right now he is looking the most non-town.

Lol, my arguments shitty? When you're the one voting me while defending LoVo with the same argument. At least I'm consistent. I still think you're scum, or possibly cult now

Consistently cryptic and not helping town in any way. Where did I defend Lovo? I just think he's being weirdly close to Mitch just because of similar roles - i.e both VT's. He hasn't been playing very well this game, and probably the last 15 posts all mention Mitch. No cult player would so vocally align to another just because of a role claim - especially when Mitch got super close to a lynch. No one would actually willingly put themselves out there to save Mitch, let's be honest. He's too unpredictable.

I'm going to unvote Tails for now. In saying all this, I am totally prepared to be wrong on Mitch, Lovo, etc. So my vote is totally up for grabs for whoever can convince me the most

[Ragian]

@Doom, what do you think of Tails?

[lord voldemort]

To be honest I have been playing bad this game. (heavy cult games arent my thing especially when lack of investigative roles) Im of the opinion to go with a Tail's lynch. He feels most anti town to me at the moment.

vote Tails

Will we learn much about what to do next...probs not but lets let future lv deal with that.

@ doom...go have a quick google on the word agenda mate.

[madmitch]

I thought it was proven that I was town not scum after being jailed but now you think Iam cult, I AM NOT, ,but I am not going to waste my time again trying to prove it, My vote on Doom is staying ,I didn't like his outburst ,he can blame me but I think it was something else,I will change my vote if town needs me to but I will not get into my bad habit of voting and unvoting

[Ragian]

You can't disprove you're cult anyway, mate You can work with town, though. Do you think Doom is scum or cult and why (anything apart from his outbursts)?

[madmitch]

With logic like that, I'm tempted to vote myself to make this day end.

This was your answer to Bengas accusation that you are scum, not really saying that you are not ,are you? When this day started you leaned towards Benga ,Lovo,Skitts, MM and yourself being town, and Dakky and myself being cult, 3 or your town picks think I am town,MM wantedto know w hy Benga flipped his ideal about me,you and tails at one time were after Skittles,MM says he has a case on me that I am cult, WHAT PROOF? you wanted to know all about my past life but when I mentioned that I was shepards lover in my past life I am scum/cult and you keep insulting me and I have not said anything back to you. I THINK YOU ARE CULT WITH MM OR JUST PLAIN SCUM and stop insulting me I always had great respect of you as a player and now I am losing that

[DoomYoshi]

@Doom, what do you think of Tails?

Probably the last mafia, and I'm hoping he hits the cult recruiter, which might be you.

[Ragian]

I hope the paint dries soon.

[Ragian]

vote tails

[Skittles!]

Vote Tails. Looks like people are finally sick of this non-town player. He still hasn't provided any interest or worthwhile comments to help town win this game.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Vote Count:

(2) Madmitch - (Masket, Doom)
(1) Doom - (mitch)
(4) Tails - (Skittles, Dakky, LoVo, Ragian)
(1) Benga - (sam)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

[madmitch]

I will go with the majority and unvote vote Tails

[Ragian]

@Sam, say something I'm giving up on yoooou.

[DoomYoshi]

Ration, Lovo, skittles and Mitch. Where have I seen this exact wagon before? Literally every town player needs to fight against that cult or we lose right now. Come on back to the light dakky.

[dakky21]

To what light? I think you're the last scum and Tails could be the recruiter and you want me in to the light... wtf?

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I think Tails is with Doom, just because they both did shitty arguments against me earlier in the game, and tried to start a bandwagon. Also, as you said, Tails has been super cryptic the whole game. So yes, it will be difficult to find more info. But to me right now he is looking the most non-town.

Lol, my arguments shitty? When you're the one voting me while defending LoVo with the same argument. At least I'm consistent. I still think you're scum, or possibly cult now

Consistently cryptic and not helping town in any way. Where did I defend Lovo? I just think he's being weirdly close to Mitch just because of similar roles - i.e both VT's. He hasn't been playing very well this game, and probably the last 15 posts all mention Mitch. No cult player would so vocally align to another just because of a role claim - especially when Mitch got super close to a lynch. No one would actually willingly put themselves out there to save Mitch, let's be honest. He's too unpredictable.

I'm going to unvote Tails for now. In saying all this, I am totally prepared to be wrong on Mitch, Lovo, etc. So my vote is totally up for grabs for whoever can convince me the most

Your first argument against me was the i was not active and not helping town, yada yada. LoVo has consistently had a similar activity to mine in this game (by his own admission) yet he was leaning town in one of your posts.

Ration, Lovo, skittles and Mitch. Where have I seen this exact wagon before? Literally every town player needs to fight against that cult or we lose right now. Come on back to the light dakky.

It's fallen on deaf ears. I regret not taking cult seriously in the beginning of the game. Town doesn't deserve to win with the insane reasonings they let pass.

I am Valern the Salarian council, VT

-Tails

[TA1LGUNN3R]

inane not insane, stupid auto correct.

[Samlen]

I don't know why but I thought the deadline was going to hit while I was away. Incoming rambling post.

I wasn't entirely convinced by the tails case and doom's right, it's almost the same exact wagon as yesterday, just not quite as quickly. Roleclaims don't matter much since cult but I'm fairly certain tails is not the leader considering his claim lines up well with sparatus claim. Which means lord volde is probably Tevos so also not likely the cult leader. I still think benga has a decent chance of being cult, especially since my little case against him was mostly ignored, but again, not leader since was/is jailer. If we go simply then we should look for the leader among Ragian, Skittles, and Mitch, especially since we need to kill the leader sooner rather than later.

I think the leader is most likely between skittles or ragian. I'm willing to bet that fircoal wouldn't have been that inactive if they were the leader and mitch's voting patterns are not a very distinct way of determining his alignment, especially since anyone in his position yesterday would've tried to save themselves too. Also the sparatus claim helps clear him of being the leader, if not cult. So back to a tossup between ragian and skittles. Either that or we got a group of townies blindly bandwagoning the past two days. we still got around 5 days to figure things out so I can only hope tails doesn't get hammered right away. I'd like some more input from others as well a little rereading to see if I can figure out anything else.

[lord voldemort]

I don't know why but I thought the deadline was going to hit while I was away. Incoming rambling post.

I wasn't entirely convinced by the tails case and doom's right, it's almost the same exact wagon as yesterday, just not quite as quickly. Roleclaims don't matter much since cult but I'm fairly certain tails is not the leader considering his claim lines up well with sparatus claim. Which means lord volde is probably Tevos so also not likely the cult leader. I still think benga has a decent chance of being cult, especially since my little case against him was mostly ignored, but again, not leader since was/is jailer. If we go simply then we should look for the leader among Ragian, Skittles, and Mitch, especially since we need to kill the leader sooner rather than later.

I think the leader is most likely between skittles or ragian. I'm willing to bet that fircoal wouldn't have been that inactive if they were the leader and mitch's voting patterns are not a very distinct way of determining his alignment, especially since anyone in his position yesterday would've tried to save themselves too. Also the sparatus claim helps clear him of being the leader, if not cult. So back to a tossup between ragian and skittles. Either that or we got a group of townies blindly bandwagoning the past two days. we still got around 5 days to figure things out so I can only hope tails doesn't get hammered right away. I'd like some more input from others as well a little rereading to see if I can figure out anything else.

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you are correct sam I am tevos.

your summary is pretty bang on I think.

I think one of skitz and raigs should be lynched today...we learn the most from that I think.

[Ragian]

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I maintain that tails has not even tried. Well, if it is between Skittles and myself (obviously, I'm not the recruiter, but fat chance anyone is going to believe that straight away), how about lynching one and then have MM shoot the other if we're wrong? (This hinges on everyone trusting that MM isn't cult.)

Another reason I think it's Tails, and the reason I asked what he did last night, is that I visited him. Succesfully. Which would also mean that if I'm correct, we're not dealing with three, but only two cult.

@Samlen, let's say we lynch Skittles or me, who's the crew? Will you just look at yesterday's lynch?

[madmitch]

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[Skittles!]

@Samlen, let's say we lynch Skittles or me, who's the crew? Will you just look at yesterday's lynch?

This is my question to Sam and Lovo. As neither of us are the cult recruiter (just believing Ragian here but I think he's town), what will you learn from either of us lynched? I still think we can get more info from lynching other players and not the two actually trying to pick out scum/cult.

Nice to actually see some input from you tho Sam.

Loving the negative Nancy comments by both Doom and Tails. Lighten up, it's a game and town still very much has a chance of winning this.

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