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aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
Iron Butterfly wrote:First My apologies but it has been a long day.
First I was given two gifts which enables me to perform xmas magic. I received a notification that I can use my gifts today which would let me perform any night action including xmas magic. i asked if I could resurrect a Town player and was informed I could.
I misunderstood how the gifting works and assumed that the action would work on the player that day. I was informed that the "gifts" are a night action. So my bad.
Something puzzles me. I understand that I have been investigated and turned up mafia. I do not see how Gustaff would not be Town BUT no one has claimed they were role blocked and there are a variety of ways the investigation could have been tainted.
It just dawned on me though. Why have we been trusting MOB? Since the investigation has been revealed he has been wanting to speed the lynch up.
Mob stated his win condition was to unite the two misers and he would be removed from game, while the two misers would become survivors. He seemed to think that having two survivors would be best for town as apposed to one (himself). I choose to let Spiesr win over Mob because Mob was completely self serving. I believe he has not been honest with us and is not a survivor.
And for your information i asked if negative night actions can be used such as vig actions, busdrives ect and the answer is yes.
Vote MOB
Iron Butterfly wrote:It just dawned on me though. Why have we been trusting MOB? Since the investigation has been revealed he has been wanting to speed the lynch up.
Metsfanmax wrote:Iron Butterfly wrote:It just dawned on me though. Why have we been trusting MOB? Since the investigation has been revealed he has been wanting to speed the lynch up.
That did not escape my notice, but it doesn't change the fact that you are the best lynch opportunity we have right now. I can't deny the possibility that Gustaf's result is not accurate. But I also can't see how we could possibly make a more rational choice with today's vote. Lynching either myself or betiko would be the wrong move, given the uncertainties that evidently surround both of us. If Gustaf's claimed result is incorrect, then even that is useful information; we could actually use that to our advantage, if it implies that he has become an insane cop (although we would gain nothing if he were just a naive cop). Obviously it would not be great for town to lose that, but we would still have (probably) 6 people on our side, against 2 for mafia.
betiko wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:Iron Butterfly wrote:It just dawned on me though. Why have we been trusting MOB? Since the investigation has been revealed he has been wanting to speed the lynch up.
That did not escape my notice, but it doesn't change the fact that you are the best lynch opportunity we have right now. I can't deny the possibility that Gustaf's result is not accurate. But I also can't see how we could possibly make a more rational choice with today's vote. Lynching either myself or betiko would be the wrong move, given the uncertainties that evidently surround both of us. If Gustaf's claimed result is incorrect, then even that is useful information; we could actually use that to our advantage, if it implies that he has become an insane cop (although we would gain nothing if he were just a naive cop). Obviously it would not be great for town to lose that, but we would still have (probably) 6 people on our side, against 2 for mafia.
I'd rather lynch a scum that a possible town for "experiments". he can just investigate mob for example tonight as it worked before with 3rd parties. He can investigate edoc or witt for a sure town and see what result he gets.
I'm pretty sure my scenario is what actually happened. I think we need to end the betiko/mets fight.
betiko wrote:why are you guys rushing things?? there is a big question here: why the hell didn't they performed a night kill.
Gustaf, they might have used it to frame your result. If IB turns town after we lynch him wouldn't it be interesting to hear what he had to say? the more info the better.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
MoB Deadly wrote::lol:
IB still trying to frame me. Remember last time you took that path? I let my actions and vote speak for themselves. If townies start disliking how I play then maybe I will change, but I am not going to listen to someone with a guilty result on them.
Betiko vs Mets - This is EXACTLY WHY I wanted to lynch IB quickly. Now it's a huge foggy debate. Betiko still looks much more scummier with his ridiculous scenarios.
betiko wrote:lol, you 2 really make me laugh.
rishaed wrote:I find this interesting as well unvote
The day is still young, why rush things?
Gustaf Wasa wrote:betiko wrote:lol, you 2 really make me laugh.
You don't make me laugh. You are incapable of accepting that someone has an opinion other than yours, and you immediately start insulting people when that happens. You don't know how to play this game, but I think your ego prevents you from seeing that.
Knowing that you are going to lose this must really bother you, right? I think it is all about winning for you.
betiko wrote:I didn't know that making other people laugh was an insult, maybe that s why swedes are such fun!
Seems like you are very tolerant for other opinions of what might have happened, and you are such a great player letting aside his ego!!!
( I have to say I ve never played someone that clueless and with such a superiority complex, nice to meet you!)
betiko wrote: I think it wouldn't be a bad thing for you to look back in the game at end game, you will undersand why you and mob have been hurting town if it really wasn't your intention.
betiko wrote:Mob, at no point this has gone personal between you and me here, unlike with gustaf (and I have my share of guilt in that).
The only mafia game we've played together was a game where we were scummates (my first mafia game ever and the one and only time I've ever been mafia by the way).
betiko wrote:My problem here is that you and gustaf here are not giving the slight chance that I am town. I'm very much convinced that mets is scum, although I know there is a slight possibility that he is saying the truth, even though I am not giving much credit to it.
MoB Deadly wrote:MoB Deadly wrote:God I suck at making 1 post.
I guess, the no kill COULD have been faked to make mets look clear as well. So mets cannot be taken off the list.
If IB is the gift stealer, then Betko or Mets is most likely Mafia Roleblocker, and animaniacs is clear.
If IB is NOT gift stealer, then Betiko, Mets, and animaniacs are on the list to be a gift stealer. With emphasis on animaniacs.
fastposted
EBWOP - I fail.
betiko wrote:Just put yourself in my shoes for a second: assume that I am town. How do you explain last night's action from my perspective?
aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
MoB Deadly wrote:Betiko if you are really town, and the mafia really did roleblock you JUST to make you more scummy. Realize that you are doing a greater deed for the entire town. Since they roleblocked you, Little Witt got to give out all his presents. We will be fine even if you are lynched tomorrow, we will deliver you a GA medal, do not worry!
MoB Deadly wrote:betiko, one of the reasons I am going against you personally so hard much more than mets, is because I KNOW how competitive and smart you are. Other players that are mafia would not play as aggressive as you are.
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