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Who is the MVP?

Poll ended at Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:54 pm

the white rose
5
33%
Metsfanmax
1
7%
Iron Butterfly
0
No votes
AladdinSane
7
47%
madmitch
1
7%
/ aka Slash
1
7%
Rishaed
0
No votes
other (by post)
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 15

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby virus90 on Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:26 am

Sorry for inactivity had my birthday and had like 3 days of cellebration.
I agree that voting sausage seems like the best way to go, as to see who does what, i wont vote him for now since i also agree that its best to have a claim from him to be able to discuss that.
its amazing how many pages can be filled with the same conclusion as what i just typed. so much filler posts.

DJPatrick wrote:Hi PPS,
Just a thort: does anyone else think that maybe Esylium is actually THE town and everyone who reads town is actually insane i.e. our roles are actually reversed to what they should be and we're acting ES REVERNI? :roll:


so patrick you asume that everyone has a role of some kind to begin with ?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby degaston on Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:52 am

Can we get a vote count? I'd vote for sausage if it will get him to claim, but I don't want to hammer yet.

DJPatrick wrote:Hi PPS,
Just a thort: does anyone else think that maybe Esylium is actually THE town and everyone who reads town is actually insane i.e. our roles are actually reversed to what they should be and we're acting ES REVERNI? :roll:
Maybe the townies are chocolate instead of vanilla. (Mmmmm... Chocolate Townies} :lol:
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby AladdinSane on Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:26 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:mmm...it looks now like madmitch is going to be all "allahu akbar" very soon...somebody with a defuser or similar role?


Its possible Streaker and Dakky made Mitch jester. Its a role that has been discussed a few times as being perfect for Mitch.

I'll be disappointed if he isnt either jester or serial killer. Despite his best efforts its amusing that he is being outright ignored.


Except that you guys are discussing him.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Postby AladdinSane on Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:32 am

Ragian wrote: We also shed a light on IB's balls
...
and we haven't tasted sausage for days now.


Are you softclayming gay? LOL

Not that theirs anyfink rong wid dat.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby AladdinSane on Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:10 am

I'm stil finking sorsage linch makes sense, form teh perspektive of gaining info about varius playas. Stil wayting to here wot sorsage has too say, and four votecount, before voting moor.

THort of posting thorts about various playas, but am verry tired tonite, plus it makes sense to leave it until after the sorsage linch, assming that's gonna happen.

If our first vote is irre...irretwacktable, I gess mine is for Skoffin, whom we stil havent herd form. Cood be RL issues - hopefuly we'll here sumthing soon.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby madmitch on Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:17 am

at least one person knows the truth =D> =D> :-$
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby dakky21 on Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:21 am

UNOFFICIAL shortened VOTE COUNT by my count
(streaker will provide official tomorrow)

1. Whatsausage (12) (L-2)
2. TWR (5)

rest 4 or less votes
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:11 am

Ragian wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:How did it take you six minutes to write that?

I had six pages of reading to do, but started the reply with the mtam quote. Why are you asking?


I wanted to know whether you gave an honest answer or flustered trying to work out why i asked a simple question. I believe you answered honestly and so are unlikely to have ulterior motives, hence townread.

11 minutes that time.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby Whatsausage on Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:09 am

Mmk, I suppose it is claim time. The truth shall set us free (hopefully)
My role is town sleeping god. I am the one responsible for the day effects we have witnessed so far. So basically my power is that I can make up a day effect for the next day. There were a few examples in my role, including that I could reduce the vote count required for lynch by 4 on D1 or D2 and by 2 any day after that. (Not sure if my conjunctions make this clear, but I would have to use my power every night for this effect to continue.) So the first night I figured that I should lower the required vote count to make a D1 lynch a little more feasible (15 votes is a lot, since I had no idea someone would start the game with knowledge). Last night I decided I wanted to have a little more fun with my role (because c'mon, how often do you get to make rules as a player?). Originally, I wanted everyone to basically have unlimited votes, but of course this wasn't allowed. Then I tried for each player to be able to have one vote on each other player, this was initially accepted, but I got greedy and wanted players to be able to get two votes on other players. So what the effect for today is: each player's first vote remains where it was placed, and then they have an additional vote which they can use normally including again on the first player they voted for. (Normally, meaning it can be moved around and unvoted) This appears to have hurt me, as now I am getting double voted :mrgreen: I think someone had figured this out, or at least pretty close to it. I figured this had two benefits: That people who placed a vote at all would continue to have one down and not be able to be modkilled if they tried to unvote at a bad time, and that these extra votes would give more things to look into on players (IE, more potential evidence of scum behavior).
Also, I am unable to post at night. (Because my role name is sleeping? iunno)

So that is my role. As to why I have received conflicting investigations, I am not quite sure. I have an idea, and this is why I have asked benga to reveal what exact info he received on me. Unless I missed it, he has neglected to do this. Instead he just sheeped someone else in saying my defense was weak. This idea is why I don't think that lynching me will necessarily give the town the information on benga and the magic 8-ball that we are hoping for. I was recruited into a group that can communicate outside the thread, and I believe that in some games having this ability makes one turn up scum on investigations (miller/mason combo? when I look it up, honestly I thought it was more common that roles with outside comm to turn up scum in investigations). So I believe that I could flip town and still have benga's investigation be correct and IB's not. But there would be no way of knowing for sure. I do still think the most likely scenario is that benga's investigation is faulty somehow, as I know I am not anti-town.

Storr asked why I thought I may be NK'd. Well that is because that even if I am able to convince the town that I am not the best lynch, I wouldn't be surprised to see a vigilante be a vigilante and take what they believe to be justice into their own hands. Scum also know that I am a PR that isn't on their side, so they may just kill me themselves.

So I suppose now that the cat is out of the bag, we can decide as a group what effect (if any) we want to come to be for the coming Days. I would recommend however, not to get too into this, as postulating over what to do with a power that can be made up could become an incredible distraction.

Speaking of distractions, I would support lynching mitch, even if he could be a jester. He does appear to have knowledge of the gifts being sent out, and did say the rest would be bad for town (could be a lie I suppose), so could he really be jester and mailman? I don't see a scenario where he should be kept alive. Because either:
1. He is a jester, just making stuff up, and I have no idea how he knew about IB's 8-ball. (Even if he is a jester, we should just let him win to eliminate the distraction, as I highly doubt it would be endgame)
2. He is the mailman, and the things are bad for town
3. He is the scum mailman, things are good for town and he has to deliver them while alive
4. He is not a mailman and is in cahoots with IB somehow
So the worst case scenario is either that we lynch a scum that could be helping town, or we lynch a jester. Not too bad imo.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:31 am

I believe you.

Vote White Rose

The thing about Mitch is that he is all but crying to be killed/lynch. He has already sent his stuff. Are his gifts activated regardless, or open his death?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby StorrZerg on Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:44 am

Can you explain why you decided to change the votes like this? As well as using your power to reduce the number of votes?

I'd like more than because I can. If i had a role like this, I'd be thinking about how I could use this to be an advantage for town. So, what's the plan?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:46 am

I think I believe the claim, but that doesn't make you town, Whatsausage.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:47 am

Nevertheless, unvote until we figure out what to do next.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby AladdinSane on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:09 pm

Whatsausage wrote:As to why I have received conflicting investigations, I am not quite sure.


Sumwun who has investimagated you is insane or lying, I gess.

IB? 8-borl (if dere is an 8-borl)? Benga?

I gess wun inneresting ting here is that, befour Sorsage's claim, meny of us thort linching him was teh best way to get info on doze invetimagashuns. But, if we berleeve Sorsage, linching him duzent seem like teh way to go, after orl. Hmmm...

Sorsage, wot limits are der on teh powers you can invoke? Do you basikly make proposals to teh mods, and dey aprove or disaprove dem? Is dat how it werks?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby StorrZerg on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:15 pm

Really... stop abusing spelling. .. you are ruining the game..
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby AladdinSane on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:28 pm

StorrZerg wrote:Really... stop abusing spelling. .. you are ruining the game..


Onestly, I wood luv too. You've seen dat I tried to minimize mispeling and then tried to put dem at teh end of teh posts. Why cant you unnerstand that the MODS rekwire it? Anyway I havent herd from them for a wile, so I gess they are pleesed with my werk and wot I am doing now.

I tink "ruining" teh game is a bit of an overreakshun, anyway - see my post above on teh topik ^^^^ It reely isent a big deel wen you tink about it.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:42 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:I think I believe the claim, but that doesn't make you town, Whatsausage.


I would agree. If anything the vote count would make it easier for anti town/mafia as they can work in tandem.

I would ask Whatsausage about this group he has been recruited to.

If you can rewrite rules perhaps you can check on our buddy Mitch? I will stay out of it but it does seem like a very powerful role.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby AladdinSane on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:48 pm

Frum MafiaScum.net:

"The Dreaming God is a role that possesses a list of many flavor names for one-shot abilities. Pregame and during each Night, it must compulsively choose one ability to use. The Dreaming God is not told what any ability does, although the flavor name of each ability may provide some kind of hint in this regard.

The Dreaming God's one-shot abilities do not necessarily target players. The intent of the role is that each ability causes a global passive effect on the entire game - for instance, allowing all players to speak to each other privately for the duration of the game, or drastically shortening the deadline. The Dreaming God's abilities are generally spread in effect between positive, neutral, or negative effects.

Dreaming God has no inherent alignment."

Emfasis is mine. The roll Sorsage is claiming seems similar but not eggzakly so.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Postby AladdinSane on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:04 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Ragian wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:How did it take you six minutes to write that?

I had six pages of reading to do, but started the reply with the mtam quote. Why are you asking?


I wanted to know whether you gave an honest answer or flustered trying to work out why i asked a simple question. I believe you answered honestly and so are unlikely to have ulterior motives, hence townread.

11 minutes that time.


Sewiously? You repeatedly aakuze me of been skum without presenting a case, even after been chalenged too more than wunse, but Ragian you just give a pass without any evidense he is teling the trooth? Do you just get yer reads frum roling dice? Maybe yer roll is "private defective". You just look moor and moor like a lincher all teh time.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:12 pm

Whatsausage wrote: So what the effect for today is: each player's first vote remains where it was placed, and then they have an additional vote which they can use normally including again on the first player they voted for.

If this is the case, then my very first vote was "no lynch" -- and I believe that will stand?

Can we get a vote summary at this point?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby benga on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:19 pm

i just got simple ANTI-TOWN.

you said you have been recruited to outside group
can you please elaborate on that?
you all can just talk over night between yourselves?
isn't that mafia ability only?

it is possible I am paranoid cop, but I never got that written in my pm role
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:23 pm

benga wrote:it is possible I am paranoid cop, but I never got that written in my pm role


You wouldn't be told that, it would defeat the purpose. Similarly, Marashu wouldn't have known that he was insane.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:37 pm

AladdinSane wrote:Sewiously? You repeatedly aakuze me of been skum without presenting a case, even after been chalenged too more than wunse, but Ragian you just give a pass without any evidense he is teling the trooth? Do you just get yer reads frum roling dice? Maybe yer roll is "private defective". You just look moor and moor like a lincher all teh time.


You post enough to get an easy read without testing. Rage hasnt been particularly active so I set a test, he passed.

Iron Butterfly wrote:I would agree. If anything the vote count would make it easier for anti town/mafia as they can work in tandem.


I havent noticed any group uses of first votes to "accidentally" push someone to lynch except possibly Sausage himself, which suggests this isnt the case.

Note that Sausage didnt claim town, so Benga's investigation that Sausage is Anti Town stands up. IB is it possible that Sausage is third party based on the exact phrasing of your investigation result? (potentially survivor by the sounds of it.)

AladdinSane wrote:I gess wun inneresting ting here is that, befour Sorsage's claim, meny of us thort linching him was teh best way to get info on doze invetimagashuns. But, if we berleeve Sorsage, linching him duzent seem like teh way to go, after orl. Hmmm...


hmmm.... all the people using that stupid logic fall into my "blantantly scum" group of reads. Its funny that.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Postby AladdinSane on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:45 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:You post enough to get an easy read without testing. Rage hasnt been particularly active so I set a test, he passed.

AladdinSane wrote:I gess wun inneresting ting here is that, befour Sorsage's claim, meny of us thort linching him was teh best way to get info on doze invetimagashuns. But, if we berleeve Sorsage, linching him duzent seem like teh way to go, after orl. Hmmm...


hmmm.... all the people using that stupid logic fall into my "blantantly scum" group of reads. Its funny that.


Yer just wunnerful at making dese ackusashuns witout geting down to spesificks, arnt you? For teh turd time (at leest), c'mon, show us wot you fink you have...or stfu.

And most of yer reeds on other playas are either unsuported by any evidense, or dey are as week as your stated reeson fore bileeving Ragian.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:08 pm

AladdinSane wrote:And most of yer reeds on other playas are either unsuported by any evidense, or dey are as week as your stated reeson fore bileeving Ragian.


But they are right, and thats what really bothers you as you know that you cant kill me as my alignment and reputation is all the evidence town need.
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