spiesr wrote:jak111 wrote:If I take this as the only choices left I'll cut it down in a second. But I'd like to also take a second here to ask where everywhere claimed at? When was he targeted? The only blocks/saves I remember from what MoB said was me and Sound he protected. Other than that I do not recall him mentioning everywhere at all?
The basis for everywhere not considered sort of clear appears to be that he was Soundman's night 3 target. Soundman is the roleblocker. The night scene suggests that the mafia attempted to kill someone, but target was saved by the doctor. If everywhere was roleblocked then he couldn't have shot Soundman. (Who is presumed to be the target since Mob used his protection on him) Upon further inspection, this isn't as solid of a clear as some might have thought.
1. If there is more than 1 mafia alive then it of course doesn't mean anything. Currently the general consensus seems to be that there is only one remaining scum, but we can't know for sure.
2. While the flavor scene would seem to indicate otherwise, I don't think we can completely rule out the possibility that Chapcrap is the one who performed the mafia's kill action last night. The scene flavor says he didn't but can we rely on that being a perfect reproduction of the actual night events?
That said, I don't think everywhere is scum. Primarily becuase I think I know what his role is. Should he claim and confirm it then I can move him to my "probably town" pile.
All I'm asking is someone prove to me he's safe.. Everyone's going off the scene like it's fact. A couple of us in Everywhere's mafia game should know that the scenes don't really give away any night action. So he is by no way cleared at THIS moment. That being said for your "if there's more than 1 mafia" comment I fully agree with that. Who's to say there isn't 2 more? Yes the scene mentions one guy running away. But if another mafia is somewhere else of course the scene won't mention so.
So now with the vote count posted finally I can see. Spiesr is still not clear but he doesn't seem to be working with anyone. But for the people voting me, only one of them I've cleared off my own list. Perhaps the other two are working together? (More wifom I know but there's like no one actually defending me at all, so I gotta make do with what I got).
So again going off my FEELINGS I'd cross Spiesr actually off my list, though I will not because I haven't seen anything besides feel that he'd not be scum. Hmm, so can New Guy not mention WHAT role he's masoned with but whom? (also more wifom here.. get ready for it... If there's two mafia left perhaps New guy is claiming Mason so he can clear him and his buddy? Or he isn't saying who because he isn't a real mason?) No one has popped up and said their in league with New Guy, so his Mason story is somewhat not believe-able.
Thus widening my list to...
Spiesr
Everywhere116
Jonty125
Victor Sullivan
New Guy1
I know you guys hate seeing a list get bigger from what it was. But unless him and someone else can say they are masoned together I don't FULLY buy it. Also, Everywhere can still be cleared, but I want to hear it from MoB that HE picked Everywhere to save.. Because let me get the quote I'm thinking of...
MoB Deadly wrote:[quote="TA1LGUNN3R"
Elsewhere, a bit later:
A shot rang out, striking one of the townspeople in the thorax, near the heart. Assuming his target's death, the assailant made off before he could be identified. As luck would have it, the bullet missed any organs and the doctor was near by. The victim would not die tonight.
I saved Soundmans life.[/quote]
Check the VERY first post of page 58. MoB says himself that he saved Soundman's life. NOT Everywhere's. So where did Everywhere get saved at, hmm?