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aage wrote:So there's 2 vote stealers? o.0
Are you sure your extra vote was stolen, Iliad? You could've been roleblocked, would make more sense.
safariguy5 wrote:aage wrote:So there's 2 vote stealers? o.0
Are you sure your extra vote was stolen, Iliad? You could've been roleblocked, would make more sense.
I was under the impression that roleblocking wouldn't affect the ability of the doublevoter because the doublevote ability is intrinsic like a mason or a lover and not a night action.
Vote stealer maybe, but I don't think doublevoter would lose a vote due to roleblock.
safariguy5 wrote:aage wrote:So there's 2 vote stealers? o.0
Are you sure your extra vote was stolen, Iliad? You could've been roleblocked, would make more sense.
I was under the impression that roleblocking wouldn't affect the ability of the doublevoter because the doublevote ability is intrinsic like a mason or a lover and not a night action.
Vote stealer maybe, but I don't think doublevoter would lose a vote due to roleblock.
gregwolf121 wrote:first off sorry for inactivity internet is nonexistant in my apartment, but terminology wise i believe saint means holy, thus good, and ill need time to catch up so i won't vote, and yeah
Victor Sullivan wrote:Oh snappers! I must apologize, I forgot about this; I was busy over the end of last week and the weekend. Not that it particularly matters, since my vote was stolen anyway
I'll try to catch up. Seems to me I was taking heat yesterday, so I'll try to be quick-like! Thursdays I'm booked, but I'll see if I can't post something meaningful by Friday.
-Sully
samgrossy wrote:He only claimed his vote was stolen. Guess that implies a vote stealer role? What the heck are the mechanics of that role?
jonty125 wrote:samgrossy wrote:He only claimed his vote was stolen. Guess that implies a vote stealer role? What the heck are the mechanics of that role?
Well actually I think jak claimed he stole it.
vodean wrote:jonty125 wrote:samgrossy wrote:He only claimed his vote was stolen. Guess that implies a vote stealer role? What the heck are the mechanics of that role?
Well actually I think jak claimed he stole it.
and isnt vote stealer a generally scummy role? hence furthering the case against jak?
vodean wrote:jonty125 wrote:samgrossy wrote:He only claimed his vote was stolen. Guess that implies a vote stealer role? What the heck are the mechanics of that role?
Well actually I think jak claimed he stole it.
and isnt vote stealer a generally scummy role? hence furthering the case against jak?
safariguy5 wrote:vodean wrote:jonty125 wrote:samgrossy wrote:He only claimed his vote was stolen. Guess that implies a vote stealer role? What the heck are the mechanics of that role?
Well actually I think jak claimed he stole it.
and isnt vote stealer a generally scummy role? hence furthering the case against jak?
In the hands of mafia, it's almost as powerful as doublevoter. In general, while it's possible for mafia to have vote manipulation roles, it does make it harder to balance as mafia can endgame prematurely especially if there are no hints as to the size of the mafia.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
VioIet wrote:My guess is that Mr. Squirrel is also a human who has investigative powers. I believe that Jak is human also. The reason he probably said angel, is because his role pm may say something like, "you win when all demon's have been eliminated." That is pure speculation- but to me, it seems that's the only reason why he would say angel.
safariguy5 wrote:I will say that I think the idea of a cult is rather farfetched. Humans recruiting Angels/Demons/Both?
jonty125 wrote:strike wolf wrote:Ebwop: I'd suggest testing this. Starting with Victor's vote.
Hmm, I'm sure jak said this earlier but it must have got lost in this saint debate. I do agree the two vote stealers are probably not the same alignment.
jak111 wrote:Though I think I have some information from last night as to who is what... Victor, make a vote, Iiliad, use both your votes, you'll both retract them once they are tested but for now I want to see who is missing their vote. Iiliad said he is, but Victor is the one who should be missing his, so I want to see if there's someone lying or if there's another person who can affect votes.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
jak111 wrote:Why are we assuming there's two vote stealers atm? We haven't even tested to see if Illiad/VS is missing a/their vote. Do you got insider information we should know about about what's happening to Illiad's claim of missing a vote?
aage wrote:jak111 wrote:Why are we assuming there's two vote stealers atm? We haven't even tested to see if Illiad/VS is missing a/their vote. Do you got insider information we should know about about what's happening to Illiad's claim of missing a vote?
We're not. There's you, who claims to block votes, so that would be a vote blocker. Iliad stated that his vote was "stolen", so I assume that someone did steal his vote. Whether his vote was not stolen but blocked would just be a poor phrasing on Iliad's part, but still renders the point I made valid. Two voteblockers in one team plus a doublevoter is too much.
safariguy5 wrote:As for the idea of angels being mafia, I would think they would be classified as fallen angels.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
strike wolf wrote:I admit it slipped my mind that victors had not been confirmed yet. as for illiad, he proved his role yesterday so innocent until proven guilty on that end.
chapcrap wrote:Ok, I just caught up on 10 pages. Sorry for the inactivity.strike wolf wrote:I admit it slipped my mind that victors had not been confirmed yet. as for illiad, he proved his role yesterday so innocent until proven guilty on that end.
I just want to say that this is not confirmed. I thought that immediately and now it's an actual issue. All that was confirmed was that there was a secret vote put on Victor. It wasn't confirmed that it was Iliad. It also wasn't confirmed that he even has double votes. At the time of the ??? vote, Iliad was not voting anyone else, so there was no way to know if he's telling the truth or not.
Next, if you do believe Iliad, people said that he probably was town because it would make mafia too strong. Well, now that there is a at least one vote stealer/blocker, I think we can not assume that Iliad is town at all. He can be any faction.
As far as mechanics of the game, I don't really care at this point. It's all just speculation and conjecture for no reason. We have nothing to go on. It's not going to help us catch scum today. So, I won't be participating in that discussion.
The one other thing that I wanted to comment on was when Mr. S outed his investigation of Vio, someone immediately asked him to full role claim. I thought that was pretty scummy. I'll go back and look who.... It was jonty.
Also, jak, you're in luck, Jesus accepts anyone!
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