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DoomYoshi wrote:It's not plain rolefishing.
He must be cult.
unvote vote elonpuckhog
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
To answer your first two questions, my gut feeling tells me there are 3 parties in this game. Whether they are cult, scum, whatever, my feeling tells me there are three parties. But all I have to go on is my gut.
Further, I don't believe there are ANY VTs in this game.
This after he accuses me of lying but doesn't really state where he knows I am lying.
Rodion wrote:Interesting logic, Yoshi.
I'm considering / is known for enjoying the roleplaying aspect of the game and is really likely to give everyone an unique bios, even if multiple players happen to share the same role.
I could be wrong, though, and you might be up to something. Do you have any sort of evidence that all "human quasi-VTs" got the exact same role PM?
DoomYoshi wrote:Rodion wrote:Interesting logic, Yoshi.
I'm considering / is known for enjoying the roleplaying aspect of the game and is really likely to give everyone an unique bios, even if multiple players happen to share the same role.
I could be wrong, though, and you might be up to something. Do you have any sort of evidence that all "human quasi-VTs" got the exact same role PM?
Remarkable that you posted, just about as I was going to respond to your last point.
Saf and IB seemed to base their knowledge off of Lovecraftian logic. Rishaed very obviously had the same role as me from the beginning, but also DIDN't LIE. He clearly said where he got his information. Nendreel is somewhere in between.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
I can't seem to find anything in your posts that explains why you would assume that he had the same role as you. Can you please clearly explain that part?DoomYoshi wrote:I assumed that he had the same role as me (the most common role in the game) and I just wanted to let him know that even though he is town, if he continues lying, it will look scummy.
spiesr wrote:I can't seem to find anything in your posts that explains why you would assume that he had the same role as you. Can you please clearly explain that part?DoomYoshi wrote:I assumed that he had the same role as me (the most common role in the game) and I just wanted to let him know that even though he is town, if he continues lying, it will look scummy.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
The problem here then is that the very reason you went after him in the first place is him saying that he only thinks there is a cult. So somehow you decided: He thinks there is a cult, therefore he knows there is a cult, therefor he has the same role as me, therefor he must be lying about "thinking" there is a a cult.DoomYoshi wrote:Two separate ideas:spiesr wrote:I can't seem to find anything in your posts that explains why you would assume that he had the same role as you. Can you please clearly explain that part?DoomYoshi wrote:I assumed that he had the same role as me (the most common role in the game) and I just wanted to let him know that even though he is town, if he continues lying, it will look scummy.
1)
a) I know there is a cult
b) he knows there is a cult
2) I know I have the most common role, so it is likely
This caused the initial cascade of reasoning.
spiesr wrote:The problem here then is that the very reason you went after him in the first place is him saying that he only thinks there is a cult. So somehow you decided: He thinks there is a cult, therefore he knows there is a cult, therefor he has the same role as me, therefor he must be lying about "thinking" there is a a cult.DoomYoshi wrote:Two separate ideas:spiesr wrote:I can't seem to find anything in your posts that explains why you would assume that he had the same role as you. Can you please clearly explain that part?DoomYoshi wrote:I assumed that he had the same role as me (the most common role in the game) and I just wanted to let him know that even though he is town, if he continues lying, it will look scummy.
1)
a) I know there is a cult
b) he knows there is a cult
2) I know I have the most common role, so it is likely
This caused the initial cascade of reasoning.
I can't really understand this. The very point you go after him with is equally capable of undermining the entire idea.
DoomYoshi wrote:Betiko: he is one of the players who knows nothing of Lovecraft. However, that is not my point. My point is that after he elucidated that he thinks there is a cult he added the line:
"But all I have to go on is my gut"
That lines tells anyone reading it that he is lying, and that he does know there is a cult.
@Spiesr: I am not saying "he thinks there is a cult, therefore he knows there is a cult". I am saying: "he wrote something very awkwardly and he was defensive about it before he was even done talking about, therefore he knows there is a cult".
Other than that, I am not sure why you aren't following spiesr. Can you explain how the points undermine themselves?
ghostly447 wrote:I think doom is onto something in all honesty. Going back, It was a very strange way of putting it. It didnt alarm me fully, but it did kind of make me think why he had to mention his gut so much, etc.
Unvote Vote Elon.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
rishaed wrote:Ok I looked and both ELON and the NL votes are at 5 (was at 7 however me and doom left to vote elon) so either we've got scum BW'ing hoping that he gets nailed by the lynch chances, or he needs to claim soon. The funny thing is that i've been off and on this entire time and elon's been on quite a bit, but hasn't posted anything. I'm not exactly sure what to think of it right now.
FP'd by betiko
(Now 6)
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
DoomYoshi wrote:Betiko, I disagree with your idea. I am a normal human, there may be non-normal humans that are town, but I think it's too early to start making the next level of assumption.
I am sure there are possibly other town roles that know the existence of the cult also, but elon has had plenty of time to admit that he was lying beforehand (before I formalized this case). He has not only denied that he is human, but also that he has any knowledge of the cult.
So, his fakeclaim range is fairly limited. Luckily, we aren't going up against someone with a wealth of knowledge on Lovecraft, which narrows the pool further.
ghostly447 wrote:I think doom is onto something in all honesty. Going back, It was a very strange way of putting it. It didnt alarm me fully, but it did kind of make me think why he had to mention his gut so much, etc.
Unvote Vote Elon.
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