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Re: The Human Body (revived - 9th Update, pg 6)

Postby lostatlimbo on Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:19 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Lets try to keep productive comments coming. ;) Have you any update, lostatlimbo?


I still need to make the "Love" connection a territory, but other than minor graphic tweaks or a sexual organ jokes, I don't have much feedback to go on. :(

There was a suggestion about making two halves to the brain, but as you mentioned, it may be too complicated. Do both sides reset to neutral? Can the Heart bombard both? Can the female body only attack the left brain (which from this perspective would be on the right side) and vice versa? I liked the idea initially, but after further thought, I think the brain should remain a singular territory. However,I'm open to ideas on how to work this.

I disagree with the suggestions that the penis + vagina combo should be a bonus. As one of only 3 connections between the bodies, these are already extremely valuable and giving them a bonus would require programmed starting positions. I think there are currently plenty of bonus opportunities on this map.

BoganGod wrote:QUESTION - Do men and women have different numbers of ribs? Is it a design flaw making the two bodies almost equal?


Women have one additional row of rib. But they both have a full ribcage. It wouldn't make sense for this to affect a gameplay bonus under the current structure. The woman does have one extra territory however.

BoganGod wrote:On a finale note, holding the penis should be worth more than holding the vagina, having external genitals makes a body more open/vunerable to attack, so there should be some compensation for this. :D


And having internal genitals make a body more vulnerable to pregnancy, so I'm going to call that a wash. :)

RjBeals wrote:your fig leaves should be hand drawn as well, as the whole map is on a piece of notebook paper.


I tried to make them look like this with some artistic filters. They are meant to look 'scratched on' with colored pencil, but if I'm going to add a 'pasted on' look later, it will be a moot point.

Does everyone think that the current bonus structure is fair? As Andy said - any productive suggestions are more than welcome!
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Re: The Human Body (revived - 9th Update, pg 6)

Postby owenator on Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:05 am

I must say that this is a phenomenal idea and I applaud the map maker, and eagerly wait for the launch of it. Additionally, I can't wait to bombard that vagina. <snickers>
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Re: The Human Body (revived - 9th Update, pg 6)

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:35 am

The map is nice and i like the idea we can have a human body map on CC.

This is what i think about the map:

1. Bonuses are good, you did a good choice, is not easy to hold a zone in your map so a x bonus for y territory for the same group is the best choice.
2. Arms and legs are long dead ways
3. Some borders aren't so clear. For example penis border with bladder,Tailor and Femur. And Hip? in the woman body vagina border with hip, but on the male body , is not clear.
4. I don't know if you can find a way to do this, but could be funny if organs, muscles and bones can connect or give a bonus with a real logic that remember the real processes like breathing, eating, etc...., now everything border with everything...
5. The brain can attack all the muscles, it's right, brain can control everything....but in the same way all muscles send some nerve signal to the brain, so you can't set a one way attack....

The graphic is nice, there are some inconsistencies like a perfect drawn brain and a 2 second drawn love.
The Tibia text has to fixed.
Finally the woman left hand is not so nice. the map is a selfmade drawn of two bodies, so i don't think you 'll draw the hand in that way in real life.... ( but like the man one).

On the whole is a nice map, but i think could be better if you set a different gameplay, based on the real purpose that organs, muscles, etc have in real life.

Waiting to see your next update....
Good work! =D>

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Re: The Human Body (revived - 9th Update, pg 6)

Postby BoganGod on Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:07 am

limbo man, keep up the good work, look forward to playing on this map once it is up and running. Beware of over tweaking the map, is it possible to get a beta version in play and can trouble shoot as we play. Experience is the best judge of functionality.


Just because I can't resist (sorry) Owen should be an easy beat on this map, will go straight for the genitals, regardless of gender and spend hours there.
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Re: The Human Body (revived - 9th Update, pg 6)

Postby lostatlimbo on Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:44 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:The map is nice and i like the idea we can have a human body map on CC.

This is what i think about the map:

1. Bonuses are good, you did a good choice, is not easy to hold a zone in your map so a x bonus for y territory for the same group is the best choice.
2. Arms and legs are long dead ways
3. Some borders aren't so clear. For example penis border with bladder,Tailor and Femur. And Hip? in the woman body vagina border with hip, but on the male body , is not clear.
4. I don't know if you can find a way to do this, but could be funny if organs, muscles and bones can connect or give a bonus with a real logic that remember the real processes like breathing, eating, etc...., now everything border with everything...
5. The brain can attack all the muscles, it's right, brain can control everything....but in the same way all muscles send some nerve signal to the brain, so you can't set a one way attack....

The graphic is nice, there are some inconsistencies like a perfect drawn brain and a 2 second drawn love.
The Tibia text has to fixed.
Finally the woman left hand is not so nice. the map is a selfmade drawn of two bodies, so i don't think you 'll draw the hand in that way in real life.... ( but like the man one).

On the whole is a nice map, but i think could be better if you set a different gameplay, based on the real purpose that organs, muscles, etc have in real life.

Waiting to see your next update....
Good work! =D>

thenobodies80


I keep neglecting this map because I spend more time on Portland, but I don't want it to fall back into the Map Graveyard. Thanks to Bogan and owen for the complimentary support!

Nobodies - my initial versions of this map did just what you suggest with muscles attacking bones and organs linked by "digestive tract", "airways", "arteries", etc. The problem with this was that it made for a very cluttered and confusing map. This current version has been simplified and the general reaction has been positive. I'm open to suggestions on how to incorporate these without "re-cluttering" the map and I shall continue to brainstorm myself.

I will try to make an update and address your graphic concerns in the near future, but as it is summer now and I'm apt to be outside in my free time, I may not get to this for another month or so!

So, Mr Benn - if you see this, please spare my map another death and resurrection, as I do intend to keep working on it. :)
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Re: The Human Body (revived - 9th Update, pg 6)

Postby pimphawks70 on Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:26 pm

Maybe this could be made a little clearer- perhaps specify which one contains 8 and which one contains 9. Also I assume "correct" means held, but that could be confusing to some people.

The male and female body contain 8-9 internal organs +3 for each for correct per body

Also maybe add a key-

ie

Pink (ish)- muscle groups

Gray- Skeletal groups

Light blue- internal organs


On the map the colors are clearly different, but for some reason in the key they appear to be very, very similar. Maybe a little more differentiation?

I like the map a lot.

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Re: The Human Body (revived - 9th Update, pg 6)

Postby jaytorade on Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:38 pm

Why would you have the hearts bombard the brain if it resets anyhow?
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Re: The Human Body (revived - 9th Update, pg 6)

Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:33 pm

[Moved]

It would appear that development of this map has stalled. If the mapmaker wants to continue with the map, then one of the Foundry Moderators will be able to help put the thread back into the Foundry system, after an update has been made.

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Re: The Human Body (revived - 9th Update, pg 6)

Postby number five on Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:13 pm

lol penis attacks vagina
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Re: The Human Body (revived - 9th Update, pg 6)

Postby Falkomagno on Mon May 10, 2010 9:58 pm

this is the next step. It's a must here. this and the cell.
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