Hurling: Fastest Field Sport - VACATION

[seamusk]

awesome! That is definitely helpful. I have some ideas on some of how to do that. thanks Andy!

Trying not to add posts. I'm gonna work on these changes tonight. I think it will look brilliant...

[seamusk]

TEST PLAY GAME NUMBER 2
3 players. danfrank (red) v daviedoo (green) v cptbighead (blue). starting positions and starting player selected randomly. Daviedoo goes first.
Unlike the previous game, only the map at the end of each player's turn will be preserved. This is the map thread. Will autodeploy automatically.

Game Map: Start of danfrank's turn 6.


Game Map: end of cptbighead's turn 6.


Game Map: End of Daviedoo's turn 6.

[seamusk]

GAME LOG

Round 6
danfrank turn number 6
Autodeploy of 3 each on orange goalie #3 and orange goalie #4
Autodeploy of 1 each on orange right fullback, orange right half-back, Orange Right Half-forward, orange center half-forward, and orange right forward.
Receives 3 armies for 7 territories
Deploys (3)...

cptbighead Turn Number 6..
Autodeploy of 3 on blue goalie #1 and blue goalie #4
Autodeploy of 1 on blue right fullback, blue fullback and blue left fullback.
Receives 3 armies for 5 territories.
Deploys 3 armies on Blue Goalie A.
Attacks orange middle full forward (15 on 10). 6-5-2 v 4-1 (15 on .6-5-1 v 4-3 (15 on 6). 5-3-1 v 3-2 (15 on 4). Ends attack.

Daviedoo Turn Number 6..
Autodeploy of 3 on gold goalie #1 and blue goalie #3
Autodeploys of 1 each on orange fullback, orange left corner-back, orange left half-back, and orange left mid-fielder.
Receives 3 armies for 6 territories
Deploys 3 armies on orange left mid-fielder.
Attacks orange right mid-fielder from orange left mid-fielder (6 on 3). 5-3-2 v 5-4 (4 on 3). 5-4-1 v 3-2 (4 on 1). 5-4-4 v 2 (advances 3).
Fortifies Orange left mid-fielder with 3 armies from orange Goalie A.

Round 5
danfrank turn number 5
Autodeploy of 3 each on orange goalie #3 and orange goalie #4
Autodeploy of 1 each on orange fullback, orange right corner-back, Orange Right Half-back, orange right mid-fielder and orange right half-forward.
Receives 3 armies for 7 territories
Deploys 3 armies on orange right half-forward.
Attack right full foward from right half-forward (21 on 10). 6-3-1 v 4-3 (20 on 9). 5-2-2 v 5-4 (18 on 9). 6-2-1 v 2-1 (18 on 7). 2-1-1 v 3-1 (16 on 7). 6-5-5 v 5-3 (16 on 5). 6-6-3 v 5-2 (16 on 3). 6-4-3 v 6-2 (15 on 2). 4-3-1 v 5-1 (14 on 1). 6-3-2 v 5 (advances 13).
Fortifies 6 armies from Orange Goalie C to Orange Right FUll Forward.

cptbighead Turn Number 5..
Autodeploy of 3 on blue goalie #1 and blue goalie #4
Autodeploy of 1 on blue right corner-back and blue left corner-back.
Receives 3 armies for 4 territories.
Deploys on blue goalie D (changed to reflect names used in xml. Goalie sets are A-D from left to right).
Attacks Blue fullback from Blue goalie D (20 on 6). 5-3-2 v 6-5 (18 on 6). 6-5-2 v 6-1 (17 on 5). 5-1-1 v 5-4 (15 on 5). 6-5-4 v 4-1 (15 on 3). 5-5-1 v 5-3 (14 on 2). 6-4-1 v 4-2 (advances 13).

Daviedoo Turn Number 5..
Autodeploy of 3 on gold goalie #1 and blue goalie #3
Autodeploys of 1 each on orange left corner-back, orange left half-back, orange left mid-fielder and blue fullback.
Receives 3 armies for 6 territories
Deploys 3 on orange goalie #1
Attacks orange fullback from orange goalie #1 (10 on 3). 5-1-1 v 6-4 (8 on 3). 5-4-2 v 5-2 (7 on 2). 3-3-1 v 3-3 (5 on 2). 4-2-1 v 4-3 (3 on 2). 6-2 v 5-3 (2 on 1). 6-2 (advances 1).
Ends turn.

Round 4
danfrank turn number 4
Autodeploy of 3 each on orange goalie #3 and orange goalie #4
Autodeploy of 1 each on orange fullback, orange right corner-back, Orange Right Half-back, orange right mid-fielder and orange right half-forward.
Receives 3 armies for 7 territories
Deploys 3 armies on Orange Right Half-forward
Attacks Orange Center Half-Forward from Orange RIght Half-Forward (17 on 9). 5-4-4 v 3-1 (17 on 7). 6-4-3 v 6-4 (15 on 7). 5-2-1 v 2-1 (15 on 5). 5-4-3 v 2-1 (15 on 3). 6-4-2 v 5-4 (14 on 2). 4-3-2 v 4-1 (13 on 1). 5-2-2 v 5 (12 on 1). 6-5-2 v 2 (advances 1).
Fortifies 6 armies from orange goalie #4 to orange right half-forward

cptbighead Turn Number 4..
Autodeploy of 3 on blue goalie #1 and blue goalie #4
Autodeplyo of 1 on blue right corner-back and blue left corner-back.
Receives 3 armies for 4 territories.
Deploys 3 on blue goalie #4
Attacks blue fullback from Blue goalie #4 (20 on 15). 5-3-1 v 5-4 (18 on 15). 6-5-5 v 3-2 (18 on 13). 5-4-4 v 6-6 (16 on 13). 4-4-4 v 6-2 (15 on 12). 3-3-3 v 3-2 (14 on 11). 6-5-4 v 13 on 10). 4-2-2 v 6-1 (12 on 9). 6-6-3 v 3-2 (12 on 7). 6-2-2 v 3-2 (11 on 6). 1-1-1 v 5-5 (9 on 6). 5-5-2 v 6-1 (8 on 5). 6-4-2 v 6-4 ( 6 on 5) ends attack.

Daviedoo Turn Number 4..
Autodeploy of 3 on gold goalie #1 and blue goalie #3
Autodeploys of 1 each on orange left corner-back, orange left half-back, orange left mid-fielder and blue fullback.
Receives 3 armies for 6 territories
Deploys 3 on orange left mid-fielder
Attacks orange center half-forward from orange left-midfielder (11 on 5). 5-3-3 v 4-3 (10 on 4). 5-5-3 v 4-2 (10 on 2). 6-4-4 v 4-3 (advances 9).
Fortifies blue fullback with 6 armies from blue goalie #3.

Round 3
danfrank turn number 3
Autodeploy of 3 each on orange goalie #3 and orange goalie #4
Autodeploy of 1 each on orange right corner-back, Orange Right Half-back, and Orange fullback
Receives 3 armies for 5 territories
Deploys 3 armies on orange right half-back
Attacks orange right-midfielder from orange right half-back (19 on 10). 5-3-3 v 3-2 (19 on . 3-2-2 v 6-5 (17 on . 6-6-1 v 6-1 (16 on 7). 5-4-2 v 6-1 (15 on 6). 6-5-4 v 4-1 (15 on 4). 6-4-2 v 2-2 (15 on 2). 3-2-2 v 3-1 (14 on 1). 3-2-2 v 2 (advances 13).
Attacks orange right half-forward from orange right mid-fielder (13 on 5). 5-3-2 v 2-1 (13 on 3). 2-2-1 v 2-2 (11 on 3). 5-5-1 v 6-5 (9 on 3). 3-1-1 v 6-3 (7 on 3). 6-3-2 v 3-3 (6 on 2). 4-2-1 v 3-1 (advances 5).
Forts 6 guys from orange goalie #3 to orange right half-forward.

cptbighead Turn Number 3..
Autodeploy of 3 on blue goalie #1 and blue goalie #4
Autodeplyo of 1 on blue right corner-back and blue left corner-back.
Receives 3 armies for 4 territories.
Deploys 3 armies on the blue right corner-back.

Daviedoo Turn Number 3..
Autodeploy of 3 on gold goalie #1 and blue goalie #3
Autodeploys of 1 each on orange left corner-back and blue fullback.
Receives 3 armies for 4 territories.
Deploys 3 on Orange Left Corner-back.
Attacks Orange Left Half-Back occupied by neutrals from Orange Left Corner-back (13 on 3). 6-5-3 v 6-5 (11 on 3). 6-5-3 v 3-2 (11 on 1). 6-6-1 v 4 (advances 10).
Attacks Orange Left Mid-Fielder occupied by neutrals from Orange left Half-back (10 on 10). 5-4-1 v 3-1 (10 on . 6-4-2 v 6-5 (8 on . 6-3-2 v 3-1 (8 on 6). 5-5-4 v 4-1 (8 on 4). 4-2-1 v 6-5 (6 on 4). 6-6-3 v 5-5 (6 on 2). 5-1-1 v 3-2 (5 on 1). 6-3-2 v 1 (advances 4).
Forts Orange left mid-fielder with 3 armies from orange goalie #1.

Round 2
danfrank turn number 2
Autodeploy of 3 each on orange goalie #3 and orange goalie #4
Autodeploy of 1 each on orange right corner-back
Receives 3 armies for 3 territories
Deploys 3 on orange right corner-back.
Attacks Orange fullback from Orange Right Corner-back (16 on 4). 6-4-1 v 5-3 (16 on 2). 4-2-2 v 5-2 (14 on 2). 6-6-1 v 4-1 (advances 13).
Attacks Orange Right Half-back from Orange fullback (13 on 3). 6-5-2 v 4-3 (13 on 1). 5-4-3 v 3 (advances 12).
Forts Orange Right half-back with 3 armies from orange goalie #4.

cptbighead Turn Number 2..
Autodeploy of 3 on blue goalie #1 and blue goalie #4
Autodeplyo of 1 on blue right corner-back.
Receives 3 armies for 3 territories.
Deploys 3 on blue goalie #4.
Attacks blue left corner-back from left goalie (14 on 1). 4-3-1 v 6 (13 on 1). 4-2-2 v 2 (advances 2).
End of turn.

Daviedoo Turn Number 2..
Autodeploy of 3 on gold goalie #1 and blue goalie #3
Autodeploys of 1 each on orange left corner-back
Receives 3 armies for 3 territories.
Deploys 3 on orange left corner-back.
Attacks Orange fullback from Orange Goal # 1 (5 on 1). 4-3-2 v. 3 (advances 4)
Attacks Blue fullback from Blue Goal #3 (9 on 1).4-2-1 v 5 (8 on 1). 6-3-2 v 1 (advances 7).


Round 1
danfrank turn number 1
Autodeploy of 3 each on orange goalie #3 and orange goalie #4
Receives 3 armies for 2 territories
Deploys 3 on orange goalie #4.
Attacks orange right corner-back from orange goalie #4 (9 on 1). 2-1-1 v 4 (8 on 1). 6-4-1 v 3 (advances 7).
Forts 5 from orange goalie #3 to orange right corner-back.

cptbighead Turn Number 1..
Autodeploy of 3 on blue goalie #1 and blue goalie #4
Receives 3 armies for 2 territories.
Deploys 2 on blue goalie #4, deploys 1 on blue goalie #1.
Attacks blue right corner-back from blue goalie #1 (7 on 1). 6-4-2 v 1. advances 2.

Daviedoo Turn Number 1..
Autodeploy of 3 on gold goalie #1 and blue goalie #3
Deploys 3 armies for 2 territories on orange goalie #1.
Attacks Left Orange Corner-back from Orange Goalie #1 (9 on 1). 5-3-3 v 5 (8 on 1). 6-5-4 v 6 (7 on 1). 5-5-4 v 1 (advances 5, 2 remain on goalie)

[Daviedoo]

deploy on my blue goalkeeper and attack bottem blue goal keeper advancing 0

[seamusk]

deploy on my blue goalkeeper and attack bottem blue goal keeper advancing 0

I'll use this post to make clarifications. Goalkeepers are unattackable. Noone, not players or goalkeepers can attack them.

[Daviedoo]

deploy on my yellow goal keeper and attack l corner back advancing 5

[t-o-m]

This idea has yet to win me over, but you seem dedicated so keep on working. Perhaps my mind will change. Good luck with the map.


--Andy

i do agree with this.

good idea on the test games!
hehe
i think this will make it - as andy said you DO seem dedicated, and the GFX are coming along nicely, i wish you good luck

[cptbighead]

deploy on right corner and hold

[danfrank]

ok. my move.. Deploy on bottom right goalie and attack right corner back ... Advancing all if victorious .. End Attacks.. Fort all from middle right goalie to right cornerback..
TURN 2: Deploy all on right CB attack fullback advancing all. Attack right Halfback advancing all.End attacks. fort all from bottom right goalie to right halfback..

[seamusk]

I just posted version 1.5 of the map. Based on feedback I changed the top part of the map (the rules section). I changed it entirely to photos and samples pretty much. Feedback on whether or not this is clear enough is helpful.

I also took the poll down. It was my first poll and it came back with roughly 9 in support and 6 not in support. Since the i hate irish people option was a joke I don't even know how to interpret. I'll put up a new poll in a day or two which will provide more useful guidance to me and the decision makers.

[AndyDufresne]

Your "turn by turn game play testing" is cluttering up your development and thread, and making it hard to follow. Perhaps taking it to private would be better.


--Andy

[seamusk]

Your "turn by turn game play testing" is cluttering up your development and thread, and making it hard to follow. Perhaps taking it to private would be better.


--Andy

where people who are interested cannot see it? Do you have anything constructive to add? to any thread?

[AndyDufresne]

I'm not sure what your banana bunch is with me! I'm just suggesting that it makes hard for users to follow and comment on development while "playing" is going on. Posting the results of such playing would be fine, but "turn by turn posting" seems unnecessary.


--Andy

[seamusk]

I'm not sure what your banana bunch is with me! I'm just suggesting that it makes hard for users to follow and comment on development while "playing" is going on. Posting the results of such playing would be fine, but "turn by turn posting" seems unnecessary.


--Andy

I asked for comments on my maps but all you do is whine about what you like. And not just me, everyone who isn't a long time map maker here. It isn't constructive. Thats all.

[AndyDufresne]

Perhaps we've gotten off onto the wrong foot. Pop me a PM sometime and we can chat in LIVE Chat.

Or, conversely, if you feel I am not adequately fulfilling my moderation duties, feel free to PM Twill, and let him know.


--Andy

[cptbighead]

deploy on left goalie and attack left mid goalie.

[rocky mountain]

EDIT ur original posts for making ur turn. it saves space.

[Coleman]

I'm really skeptical of the latest images. While better then the huge block of text I'm not sure they are public domain, we'd want proof for each one that they aren't copyright.

Also, no map has real world images (save San Francisco) and San Francisco is all real world with risk map drawn over it, the clash of drawing and photos of people here is a bit too much for me.

If I were you, I'd just make the map less tall and cut out all the space taken out of the map by the people pictures. The size restrictions are a guideline. You don't need to make your maps as big as we allow. It's not the size of the map, it's how you use the pixels.

[Coleman]

Sorry for the double post. This is along the lines of what I'm suggesting:



I am really hopeful for this as nobody has successfully managed to create a sports map yet. This looks along the lines of what I visualized our first sports map to be, and I apreciate your efforts.

[seamusk]

I'm really skeptical of the latest images. While better then the huge block of text I'm not sure they are public domain, we'd want proof for each one that they aren't copyright.

Not sure if you were on my PM but I do have permission for 4 of the 5 but am planning to change most of them anyhow. The question is can you guess which is a picture of me?

Also, no map has real world images (save San Francisco) and San Francisco is all real world with risk map drawn over it, the clash of drawing and photos of people here is a bit too much for me.

I'd be interested in what others have to say. They are certainly non-essential. My main reason for the photos was to highlight the game since the game is not well know itself. On one hand I feel this map will have broad appeal because there is strong familiarity with the basic concept of a field and moving the ball up and down and scoring in a goal or through uprights. On the other hurling is unique (which makes it a good theme in my opinion) but isn't commonly known.

If I were you, I'd just make the map less tall and cut out all the space taken out of the map by the people pictures.

Flattening the image is certainly workable, especially since I incorporated the arrow images to show what are legal/illegal moves. I'd be interested in what others have to say on that front.

I am really hopeful for this as nobody has successfully managed to create a sports map yet. This looks along the lines of what I visualized our first sports map to be, and I apreciate your efforts.

It is looking like we have a workable mechanic here if the test play games are any indication. I'm looking at one modification that will allow the fullbacks (and them only) to bombard their own goal (adds to the strategy especially in two player).

[Coleman]

Thanks for the response and not taking me too negatively. Hope the same happens with what I said on the other map.

Glad you are taking the process seriously, I'm excited to see more from you.

[seamusk]

Thanks for the response and not taking me too negatively. Hope the same happens with what I said on the other map.

Glad you are taking the process seriously, I'm excited to see more from you.

Your comments were constructive here. I've been annoyed (not just on my maps, its worse on others) with some of the lack of constructive input. Plus I think you may be right about removing the photos. Just cannot decide for sure.

EDIT: If I remove the photos I can pull things up and make that text on the bottom clearer. I think I will do that.

[Daviedoo]

deploy on yellow l cen back attacking yellow l half back advancing all attacking l half forward advancing all, forting all from yellow goally to l half forward

[seamusk]

6/3 Update. I've updated the map. Removed photos. I tried using samples for instructions on bottom but it sucked. So we have the text on the bottom for now. I Also modified the gameplay officially. The fullback (center back, not corner-backs) can now defend their goal by bombarding it.

Version 1.6 - posted 6/3/08

Click image to enlarge.

[rocky mountain]

deploy on yellow l cen back attacking yellow l half back advancing all attacking l half forward advancing all, forting all from yellow goally to l half forward

*ehem*.......EDIT!!!!!!!

i like this map, and i'm glad you got rid of the photos. the gameplay is very unique, and would be very interesting to play.
however:
the arrows on the instructions are overlapping, and it looks weird. maybe blend them a bit more?
the instructions are good, and definately make things clearer.
a the bottom, i assume you mean "fullbacks" instead of "full forwards"? cuz it makes more sense, and you said so in ur last post:

The fullback (center back, not corner-backs) can now defend their goal by bombarding it.

do you get territory bonuses? (4 for 12 terits, 5 for 15, etc.) or is there none? i seem to recall you said before that there were none of those, but there is no mention of it in the legend.
that is all. hope i've been of assistance