New Map-- Virginia

[RjBeals]

Screw you. Your map sucks and so does your attitude. I'll send you $100 if this makes it as a real map. On my word.

[bryguy]

Screw you. Your map sucks and so does your attitude. I'll send you $100 if this makes it as a real map. On my word.

now THATS a bad additude, one that ive never seen from u rj

[whitestazn88]

B'burg should be able to bombard Hooville. And a penalty for holding both! Also lose men per round for holding Lynchburg, as a penance to pay to LU.

Is this in reference to the Virgina Tech Shooting? If so, I would not put that in there at all. And I seriously doubt this map will ever leave the ideas forum. Sorry.

bburg is where VTECH is... hooville is a reference to UVA in charlottesville.

wicked reccommended this because of the rivalry between the two schools.

[Diamonds14]

Hey RJbears.. i do apologize.. if that is your opinion then alright. I and everyone but you so far thinks it has a lot of potential.. so im going to work on it and i will submit it. When? i dont know.. but it will, as i said, either going to be rejected by the mods or it will be played on. And i dont need your money but thanks.

I think im agreeing with seamusk.. there will be something extra to attract players but there wont be a lot. I've been working on it a little.. im thinking im going to have another pre-draft sometime next week.. not expecting it to be near complete by then.. i guess it will be a little progress report and a time for more suggestions.

Thanks again for all your feedback and now on opinions are always welcome.

Diamonds.

[oaktown]

alright, everybody play nice... let's talk about how this map could actually work before we start hammering the nails into the coffin. My comments about state maps failing was meant to provide history and warn the mapmaker of what he's up against... if somebody wants to make this happen and has the skills to do so, more power to them.

(edit - was looking at the wrong draft): My initial reaction is that you are not making good use of space. It's a big image with a small playing area.

[ParadiceCity9]

You should lose one army for holding Richmond since one of your guys got glocked there.

[Diamonds14]

You should lose one army for holding Richmond since one of your guys got glocked there.

haha thats funny.. but being the state capital i think it should be bonus.

Diamonds.

[TaCktiX]

The new version has a massive waste of space with the size of that seal. Keep the seal on the map, certainly (it adds flavor to the map, and takes up empty space), but make it much smaller. Also of note is your second draft still isn't even large-size. The hefty size of the seal isn't helping you get within the size restrictions. The brutal truth is that if you're not within the restrictions, your map won't go anywhere (just look at WWII Europe, beautiful map that's not moving anywhere until it gets smaller or the game UI changes).

[seamusk]

just rescale it to the proper width and height. The fact that its oversized right now is less the point since I think you will have no trouble resizing that and maintaining the general structure.

That said, I agree that the seal should be inside the map. You could use it to highlight the capital city. Also, I really dislike that background on the new map. Not sure how others feel.

This map has generated a fair amount of early interest. I see no reason why if you follow through why it shouldn't be moved on when it is ready.

[Diamonds14]

The new version has a massive waste of space with the size of that seal. Keep the seal on the map, certainly (it adds flavor to the map, and takes up empty space), but make it much smaller. Also of note is your second draft still isn't even large-size. The hefty size of the seal isn't helping you get within the size restrictions. The brutal truth is that if you're not within the restrictions, your map won't go anywhere (just look at WWII Europe, beautiful map that's not moving anywhere until it gets smaller or the game UI changes).

Isnt the size restrictions for the large map 840 x 800? My map is actually smaller than that. Its only 840 x 750. I havent worked with the small version but i dont see how it wouldnt fit that either. Am i wrong are the restrictions not as i thought? (small being 630 x 600).

Diamonds.

[TaCktiX]

It isn't publicized well enough, but the extra 30 px of width on the small is IF NECESSARY, and the same goes for the extra 40 px (can use it if you need to extra 30 px for small). I don't see anything about the map that requires those extra 40 pixels.

[Diamonds14]

It isn't publicized well enough, but the extra 30 px of width on the small is IF NECESSARY, and the same goes for the extra 40 px (can use it if you need to extra 30 px for small). I don't see anything about the map that requires those extra 40 pixels.

What do you mean if necessary? why cant i have my map at the maximum size? I dont like how it looks with the map being a perfect square.

Diamonds.

[ParadiceCity9]

I think you should make Loudon and Fairfax Counties into separate territories. They are two of the most profitable counties in the nation...especially Fairfax (represent).

[Diamonds14]

I think you should make Loudon and Fairfax Counties into separate territories. They are two of the most profitable counties in the nation...especially Fairfax (represent).

Yeah i could do that.. ad make fairfax county worth 15 extra guys causee it is the best county ever.. haha im from there too.. but yeah ill split those towo up.. thats a good suggestion.

Diamonds.

[Coleman]

Sorry I haven't read everything, I'm kind of not capable at the moment.

Just looking at the map, for me this seems to be cookie cutter take a state and use the already drawn up districts aproach. Which is fine if the state is a unique shape that makes it work, but the shape of Virginia makes me feel like it isn't a good idea for it.

Even if that wasn't happening, the latest image, while having a decent background, is really blurry in the actual playing area. Which just isn't good at all.

But it's early, hopefully you can get going on the next version and show us more of what you have in mind.

[Diamonds14]

Sorry I haven't read everything, I'm kind of not capable at the moment.

Just looking at the map, for me this seems to be cookie cutter take a state and use the already drawn up districts aproach. Which is fine if the state is a unique shape that makes it work, but the shape of Virginia makes me feel like it isn't a good idea for it.

Even if that wasn't happening, the latest image, while having a decent background, is really blurry in the actual playing area. Which just isn't good at all.

But it's early, hopefully you can get going on the next version and show us more of what you have in mind.

I dont understand what youre saying.. its cookie cutter? If there is going to be a VA map shouldnt the bonues reflect the major regions of the state? This isnt just some arbitary lines i drew. Each section represents a major part of the state. Im not quite sure if im understanding your suggestion.. and waste of space.. yeah i agree, ill hope to fix that with the next draft. Also the next draft should have mountains and rivers and lakes and stuff.. so it shuld be closer to completion.

Thanks you all for the feedback.. i suppose its back to the drawing boards.. that or GIMP haha.. thanks again.

Diamonds.

[BrianHoef]

I don't mean to send you completely back to the drawing board, but if you're going anyway...

Have you contemplated a map of Greater Virginia, including the state proper and its former possessions in Kentucky, West Virginia, and D.C.? I'd personally play the map either way, but it occurs to me that a regional/historical map might have broader appeal than a single-state map.

And definitely go with the historical map style. It really works for Virginia, regardless of what direction you go with this.

[bryguy]

I don't mean to send you completely back to the drawing board, but if you're going anyway...

Have you contemplated a map of Greater Virginia, including the state proper and its former possessions in Kentucky, West Virginia, and D.C.? I'd personally play the map either way, but it occurs to me that a regional/historical map might have broader appeal than a single-state map.

And definitely go with the historical map style. It really works for Virginia, regardless of what direction you go with this.

I agree with brian about having it historical. Maybe set during the revolutionary war? then you could call it "Virginian Wars'

But yea, have it in a historical setting. Include some of the surrounding area even. And you could use the same colors and stuff as Texan Wars

and sorry about not getting to you yet about helping with it, its gonna be delayed a little. The computer I use (my families) gets used by everyone in it, and everybody just got their own accounts. Also, my dad set it to only 2 hours for each of us ( ) and so ive been spending most of my 2 hours getting my files onto it

[seamusk]

I'm not clear as to why some folks are commenting that a Virginia map doesn't have appeal. This map has had as much interest as most any other in the forum. Folks should also remember that a state like Virginia has a huge population base (here on cc too) and that affects appeal, bigger than many countries that folks want to do maps of. Not that population is a sole indicator.

In any case, the bigger factor here is the need for an improved draft. And as for multi-state ideas, someone ought to make an Appalachians map at some point. So much history and interesting geography throughout.

[Diamonds14]

I'm not clear as to why some folks are commenting that a Virginia map doesn't have appeal. This map has had as much interest as most any other in the forum. Folks should also remember that a state like Virginia has a huge population base (here on cc too) and that affects appeal, bigger than many countries that folks want to do maps of. Not that population is a sole indicator.

In any case, the bigger factor here is the need for an improved draft. And as for multi-state ideas, someone ought to make an Appalachians map at some point. So much history and interesting geography throughout.

I agree with seamusk.. i dont want to do the greater VA. And i think we will have enough support, if the map is good enough. which it will be.. just give me some more time to figure out the program and to learn how to do the things that i want to do. Perhaps, submitted the idea a little too soon.

I hoping ill have another update sometime next week.

Diamonds.

[bryguy]

I'm not clear as to why some folks are commenting that a Virginia map doesn't have appeal. This map has had as much interest as most any other in the forum. Folks should also remember that a state like Virginia has a huge population base (here on cc too) and that affects appeal, bigger than many countries that folks want to do maps of. Not that population is a sole indicator.

In any case, the bigger factor here is the need for an improved draft. And as for multi-state ideas, someone ought to make an Appalachians map at some point. So much history and interesting geography throughout.

I agree with seamusk.. i dont want to do the greater VA. And i think we will have enough support, if the map is good enough. which it will be.. just give me some more time to figure out the program and to learn how to do the things that i want to do. Perhaps, submitted the idea a little too soon.

I hoping ill have another update sometime next week.

Diamonds.

i agree with both of ya. Like i said before, maybe do it kinda like texan wars with the surrounding area? and to make it more interesting, like i said, make it during the revolutionary war , that way, you could have, like in texan wars yet different, areas that can attack some ships, and ships that can attack the land