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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Lone.prophet on Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:38 am

ok here is it

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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Gilles#1 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:46 pm

Plse remove accent

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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Unit_2 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:59 pm

Why? Its fancy:)
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby valeria on Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:06 pm

I vote for the accents to stay. (if I had a vote, that is).
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby RjBeals on Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:39 pm

Not sure if it's been mentioned - but you need to work on spacing between some of your territ names and the army circles. I think better placement in general could be found for a lot of them. Overall - nicely done guys.
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Gilles#1 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:08 pm

Incorrect Valeria, the accent it's at the wrong place in french Québec not Quebéc see the bonus chart.

And why Monteregie, Chaudiere , Montreal, Lanaudiere and Gaspesie have not accent

in french Montérégie, Montréal, Lanaudière, and Gaspésie.
It's fancy but incorrect.
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby valeria on Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:38 pm

gotcha...accents are correct on the actual map, but not in the legend. Yes, I agree there should be accents in all french places with accents. I misunderstood....I thought you meant remove all the accents all togther.
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby oaktown on Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:39 pm

in the legend, did you mean to call the regions "South Quebec" and "East Quebec" or should south actually be "West Quebec?" because right now "South" is north of "East."

Territory names need some work - for starters, it looks like they are not all the same size, but this could be an optical illusion. And Duplesis is crooked, while the rest are horizontal.

My eyes may also be playing tricks with me on the army cirlces - are some larger than others? Labrador City and Port Cartier, for example.

Anyway, that's the kind of attention to detail that will stall this map... another example is that Nunatsiavat's title should be pulled back from the circle.

Which region is Magdalen Island part of? Since it's completely under the army circle I can't tell what color it is. If it's Nova Scotia, that's a much more difficult to hold +3 than the other two +3s.

You're getting close to my gameplay stamp... can you post what you expect the pixel sizes to be of both large and small maps? I'd also like to see a small map just to make sure the bridges and sea routes don't get muddy.
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Unit_2 on Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:47 am

Incorrect Valeria, the accent it's at the wrong place in french Québec not Quebéc see the bonus chart.

And why Monteregie, Chaudiere , Montreal, Lanaudiere and Gaspesie have not accent

in french Montérégie, Montréal, Lanaudière, and Gaspésie.
It's fancy but incorrect.


I'll tell him about them, thanks for noticing.

in the legend, did you mean to call the regions "South Quebec" and "East Quebec" or should south actually be "West Quebec?" because right now "South" is north of "East."


Thats is what Gilles#1 said to name them, right?

Territory names need some work - for starters, it looks like they are not all the same size, but this could be an optical illusion. And Duplesis is crooked, while the rest are horizontal.


Duplessis does look smaller but thats all I see.

My eyes may also be playing tricks with me on the army cirlces - are some larger than others? Labrador City and Port Cartier, for example.


I noticed that also, when you line Port Cartier and Charlevoix they are the same size but all the other ones are bigger.

Anyway, that's the kind of attention to detail that will stall this map... another example is that Nunatsiavat's title should be pulled back from the circle.


Thats proble a simple mistake and will be fixed.

Which region is Magdalen Island part of? Since it's completely under the army circle I can't tell what color it is. If it's Nova Scotia, that's a much more difficult to hold +3 than the other two +3s.


It is apart of Nova Scotia but how do you think we should fix it so you can see it?

You're getting close to my gameplay stamp... can you post what you expect the pixel sizes to be of both large and small maps? I'd also like to see a small map just to make sure the bridges and sea routes don't get muddy.


He is said he is goign to do that in alittle so that the big can be worked out then the small.
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Lone.prophet on Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:09 am

ok will work on it tonight,

will do:
make duplesis horizontal so it doesnt look smaller
make a little distance from names to some circles
show a small version
change the accents

any other thing you think needs change plz post!!
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Unit_2 on Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:18 am

I just saw something, look between the legand bonus, theres some pixels, can it be smoothed?
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Lone.prophet on Thu May 01, 2008 3:49 am

ok here are the maps

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dimensions are

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small 600*425
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Lone.prophet on Thu May 01, 2008 3:50 am

^^ need to move duplesi a bit, as with the names in the purplish for clearens
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Unit_2 on Thu May 01, 2008 5:43 pm

The "Port Cartier" & "Charlevoix" army circles are still smaller then the others
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Gilles#1 on Thu May 01, 2008 7:58 pm

Accent need "Chaudière" ;)
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby BeakerWMA on Thu May 01, 2008 8:33 pm

Really like this map, just one point: Grand Falls hasn't been Grand Falls for around 20 years. It is now called Grand Falls-Windsor after two neighbouring towns amalgamated. Maybe just call it GF-W? Or Central?

I hate to do this as I am from GF and would love to see it on the map, but right is right...sadly.
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Lone.prophet on Fri May 02, 2008 7:44 am

Unit_2 wrote:The "Port Cartier" & "Charlevoix" army circles are still smaller then the others


lol how did you see that i couldne even see it when it was enlarged lol

anyway i change that and the accent on chaud......

and i donnu what to do about the grand falls part
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri May 02, 2008 8:32 am

In French the capital of the region Québec is called only Québec and not Québec City as far as I know. Maybe the City should be removed to conform with the French names.

I noticed that there is East Québec and South Québec. Can these change to Est du Québec and Sud du Québec?
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Gilles#1 on Fri May 02, 2008 10:06 am

I agree with you Ruben but whats happen with:

Magdalen Island in french is Île de la Madeleine (it' a french island)
Also the english site use the french name http://www.ilesdelamadeleine.com/index2.htm

And the title "Gulf of St-Lawrence" it's also a french region "Golfe du St-Laurent"

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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri May 02, 2008 10:45 am

Gilles#1 wrote:I agree with you Ruben but whats happen with:

Magdalen Island in french is Île de la Madeleine (it' a french island)
Also the english site use the french name http://www.ilesdelamadeleine.com/index2.htm

And the title "Gulf of St-Lawrence" it's also a french region "Golfe du St-Laurent"

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Then those should change to the French version as well, according to the official language used in those specific regions.
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Unit_2 on Fri May 02, 2008 11:38 am

We can't use the french because the names would be too long, i've tried it.

But if Lone wants to try he can, I don't have a problem with it.

Also Lone, just change Grand Falls to GF-Windsor .

Answer to your question Lone: I have good eyes ;)
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri May 02, 2008 12:18 pm

Unit_2 wrote:We can't use the french because the names would be too long, i've tried it.

But if Lone wants to try he can, I don't have a problem with it.

Also Lone, just change Grand Falls to GF-Windsor .

Answer to your question Lone: I have good eyes ;)


I don't agree. The problem is not the French...it's the font used. Try using a smaller, less bold and sharper font and I'm sure they will fit in. The current font used stands out too much and detracts from the map as well. Try to use one that blends more with the map.
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby iancanton on Sun May 04, 2008 4:10 pm

working from lone.prophet's page 21 update, here's another draft to consider. there are lots of little changes, plus one big change.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/246 ... 25.jpg?v=0

unit_2, the big change that i propose is merging port cartier with manicouagan and renaming duplessis territory as côte-nord. when combined with anticosti, the two turquoise territories on the north shore of the gulf will now have the same distinctive shape as the côte-nord administrative region, which has a long straight western border. the name change from duplessis to côte-nord is so that we don't have a territory and a continent with exactly the same name. are u happy with this?

http://www.quebecweb.com/tourisme-heber ... rteang.htm

magdelen island is now îles de la madeleine. lone.prophet, can u see if it fits the map? if not, then we'll have to change it to magdalen islands (islands, not island). it's not magdalen island because none of the islands has this name.

http://www.tourismeilesdelamadeleine.co ... es_ang.cfm

the islands are part of the same administrative region as gaspésie, so i've moved them from nova scotia to duplessis continent and drawn a sea route to gaspésie.

http://www.mdeie.gouv.qc.ca/index.php?id=3920

i've removed the sea route to anticosti, which is now not a border territory. the effect is to make the gulf of st lawrence more difficult to cross.

Unit_2 wrote:Also Lone, just change Grand Falls to GF-Windsor.
grand falls is now gf-windsor.

valeria wrote:Eliminate border from Magdelan Islands to Cape Breton. Also eliminate border from Madelan Island to Newfoundland. Add a border from Cape Breton to Newfoundland. Newfoundland should be hard to get to but easy to hold, like in real life.
the gf-windsor sea route now goes to cape breton instead of îles de la madeleine.

lone.prophet, i mentioned previously that the sea routes look a bit untidy. can u try using smaller dots that are closer together?

baie-james now borders mauricie.

http://www.inforoutiere.qc.ca/fr/carte_ ... /index.asp

Ruben Cassar wrote:In French the capital of the region Québec is called only Québec and not Québec City as far as I know.
québec city is now ville de québec.

http://www.ville.quebec.qc.ca/en/accueil/index.shtml

saint laurent is now bas st-laurent.

http://www.bas-saint-laurent.org/English/p_contact.asp

the nova scotia continent is now nova scotia & PEI, to acknowledge that PEI is a separate province without changing the gameplay.

ian. :)
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby Ruben Cassar on Sun May 04, 2008 4:28 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:I noticed that there is East Québec and South Québec. Can these change to Est du Québec and Sud du Québec?


Don't forget these two and those mentioned by Gilles#1. Île de la Madeleine and Golfe du St-Laurent.
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Re: Gulf Of St. Lawrence[I](Update p. 20)

Postby valeria on Wed May 07, 2008 12:35 pm

How's it going? Have we argued enough about territory names? I think this needs to get moving to the next step.
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