Hurling: Fastest Field Sport - VACATION

by **seamusk** on Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:58 pm

poor davie. I PMed him about that too.

i like this map, and i'm glad you got rid of the photos. the gameplay is very unique, and would be very interesting to play.

yeah the photo removal project was a success! :lol:

I'm glad you like the gameplay. I'm having a blast trying to plan ways to keep theprotector from beating me in our test game. You should check it out. Last two rounds he had the objective and I was able to sneak it away from him using varied combinations of bombards and attacks.

the arrows on the instructions are overlapping, and it looks weird. maybe blend them a bit more?

I've been waiting for someone to say something about this. Need to fix this.

the instructions are good, and definately make things clearer.
a the bottom, i assume you mean "fullbacks" instead of "full forwards"? cuz it makes more sense...

yes. my bad. besides the same instructions tell you that full forwards can attack goals! Good catch!

do you get territory bonuses? (4 for 12 terits, 5 for 15, etc.) or is there none? i seem to recall you said before that there were none of those, but there is no mention of it in the legend.
that is all. hope i've been of assistance

glad you brought this up. Yes, originally I was going to rely on a flat deploy but I have determined it unnecessary. Given the few number of territories (it hasn't even come into play in our 2 player game yet) it isn't worth the xml coding to be honest. Nor do I think it adds anything to the gameplay having seen some action now. So I quietly dropped it during one of the drafts (first by accident actually) and see no need for it. Also it turns out that you cannot zero the territory bonus in the xml.

by **seamusk** on Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:52 pm

The first test game just finished. Theprotector85 beat me 5-0 in 9 rounds. I could have scored I suppose but he had the objective three straight rounds and a score would have been meaningless. I broke it twice and fell short the third time. The new fullback rule will make such a quick win tougher. Allows more time for a game to develop. Thoughts are very very welcome. Go back and read the log and look at the maps and give my input.

On another note. I feel the best way to test the new fullback rule will be with another 2 player game. If you are interested please post here and let me know so. If more than 2 are interested I might run two more games. BUT, I really need folks to stick to their posts so that we don't clutter the thread. Also, i'll use the two map system I'm using on the other game. There won't be 9 maps plus tutorial maps like there was with this first game.

ps. It will be interesting assuming this map gets quenched to run a tournament with points as a tiebreaker. We could run leagues with points for and against, goals for and against. Btw, technically the proper way to score this game is that theprotector85 won 1-2 to 0-0. or as I say above 5 points to 0.

EDITED TO ADD: there has been an additional gameplay mod based ont he first game. In the next two player we'll apply it. Basically mid-fielders and upright neuitrals have been reduced. mid-fielders from 10 to 5 neutrals. Uprights from 5 to 3 neutrals.

by **rocky mountain** on Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:26 pm

I'll play

by **seamusk** on Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:48 pm

ok. you are in rocky.

by **seamusk** on Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:20 am

Update time. So I've changed the samples. Made better images and worked on the arrows. For the goalie examples I should the options for one goalie only to reduce clutter. I also went to black for arrows after running my map through the colorblind tester (darn cool tool).

I also cleaned up the backdrop for the title and made it less pixely and game some texture to the sample background. I already will make slight touchups to that.

I'm trying to keep this map pretty simple so outside of touching up texture I'm honestly not sure what else to do. I really need some nit picking on the graphics. The gameplay is going great so far I think.

Version 1.7 - posted 6/6/08

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by **danfrank** on Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:37 am

I like the updated graphics. One of the better sports maps if not the best to try and get approved for C.C. Keep up the goodwork.!!

by **seamusk** on Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:39 am

mostly because I think the tool is neat I ran the colorblind tests to see how it looked:

Deuteranope

Protanope (another form of red/green color deficit)

Tritanope (a blue/yellow deficit- very rare)

by **seamusk** on Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:26 am

Update. I centered the field. I increased the size of the text for the goals and uprights. I made a few minor tweaks and tried some effects on the flag. Other than lightening it, I think I like the flag solid though...

Version 1.8 - posted 6/7/08

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by **gimil** on Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:54 am

symetrical gameplay is generally accepted as someting that doesnt work. Bu this is unique, maybe we'll wait and see what happens.

A quick point the golies have far to big an advantage of they cant be attacked. Means whoever is dropped on them gains a hugh advantage.

by **rocky mountain** on Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:39 pm

gimil wrote:A quick point the golies have far to big an advantage of they cant be attacked. Means whoever is dropped on them gains a hugh advantage.

the starting point for all the players is the goalie. that's why theres 8 of them. It's kinda like Das Schloss because there's a starting point where no one can attack and there is an objective to hold.

seamusk, the picture instructions are not centered. one of them is practically touching the border, and the one on the other end is far from it.
maybe instead of a white box on the bottom it can be a different colour. i'm not sure which though...
the ball isn't quite in the middle of the field.
not much more i have to say...

by **seamusk** on Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:26 pm

gimil wrote:symetrical gameplay is generally accepted as someting that doesnt work. Bu this is unique, maybe we'll wait and see what happens.

Well, I agree with this sentiment that symnetrical gameplay is difficult. But it works with this map. I'm sure as test plays go more tweaks will be possible but the games thus far have been good.

gimil wrote:A quick point the golies have far to big an advantage of they cant be attacked. Means whoever is dropped on them gains a hugh advantage.

As rocky mountain points out the goalies are the starting positions for all players. This was done to prevent the kind of distorted advantage you speak of.

by **seamusk** on Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:29 pm

rocky mountain wrote:seamusk, the picture instructions are not centered. one of them is practically touching the border, and the one on the other end is far from it.

Yeah. I can do more to make that more balanced. will do.

rocky mountain wrote:maybe instead of a white box on the bottom it can be a different colour. i'm not sure which though...

i'm open to suggestions. I like a different color. I'll try a few out...

rocky mountain wrote:the ball isn't quite in the middle of the field.

will fix.

rocky mountain wrote:not much more i have to say...

well that is rare! Thanks once again for all of your quality input rocky mountain! You have been a great contributer to both of my maps.

by **seamusk** on Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:09 am

6/8 Update. So, I basically tried to implement Rocky's suggestions. I didn't finely measure but centered the sample maps, centered the sliotar, and changed the color of the box on bottom (and texture).

Version 1.9 - posted 6/8/08

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by **seamusk** on Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:19 am

TEST PLAY GAME NUMBER 3
2 players. rocky mountain (red) v danfrank (green). Starting positions and starting player selected randomly. The map at the end of each players turn will be preserved. PM me your turn instructions. I will repost in gamelog when I execute your turn. Conquerace gets first turn.

end of danfrank's turn 2

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End of Android's turn 3

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by **seamusk** on Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:19 am

Test Game #3 GAME LOG

paused until map update...

Round 3
danfrank turn #3
Autodeploy of 3 armies each on Orange goalie #1, blue goalie #3, and blue goalie #4.
Autodeploy of 1 army each on Orange Left Corner-back, Blue left Half-back, and Blue left mid-fielder
Receives 3 armies for 6 territories.
Deploys 3 armies on blue left mid-fielder.
Attacks Left Half-Forward (18 on 5). 5-5-5 v 4-3 (18 on 3). 4-3-3 v 5-3 (16 on 3).5-3-1 v 6-1 (15 on 2). 4-4-2 v 5-3 (14 on 1). 4-2-1 v 6(13 on 1). 6-2-2 v 3 (advances 12).
Bombard Orange right half-back from blue left half-forward (12 on 9). 5-4-1 v 5-4 (10 on 9). 3-3-2 v 5-3 (8 on 9). 5-3-3 v 6-2 (7 on

. 6-6-4 v 6-4 (6 on 7). 5-3-1 v 4-1 (6 on 5). 6-3-2 v 5-4 (5 on 4). 5-2-1 v 4-4 (4 on 3). 6-5-3 v 6-5 (2 on 3).
Attack from blue goalie A to Blue fullback (4 on 1). 6-6-2 v 6 (3 on 1). 4-3 v 4 (2 on 1).
Attack from Blue Goalie B to Blue Left Fullback (7 on 9). 5-4-2 v 6-3 (6 on

. 6-3-2 v 6-2 (5 on 7). 6-3-2 v 3-2 (5 on 5). 6-4-1 v 5-1 (5 on 3). 4-1-1 v 5-3 (3 on 3).
Fortifies 6 from Orange Goalie A to Orange Left Fullback.

Round 2
Androidz turn #2 (replacing Rocky Mountain)
Autodeploy of 3 armies each on Orange goalie #3, orange goalie #4, and blue goalie #2.
Autodeploy of 1 army each on Orange Right Corner-back
Receives 3 armies for 4 territories.
Deploys 3 armies on Blue Goalie C.
Attacks Blue Center Fullback from Blue Goalie C (12 on 1). 5-5-2 v 2 (advances 11).
Attacks blue left Fullback from Blue Center Fullback (occupied by danfrank) (11 on 1). 1-1-1 v 5(10 on 1). 6-1-1 v 2(advances 9)
Attacks right orange half-backs from orange right fullbacks (13 on 3). 5-3-1 v 6-3 (11 on 3). 6-3-2 v 2-2 (11 on 1). 6-5-3 v 6 (10 on 1). 6-6-6 v 2 (advances 9).

danfrank turn #2
Autodeploy of 3 armies each on Orange goalie #1, blue goalie #3, and blue goalie #4.
Autodeploy of 1 army each on Orange Left Corner-back and Blue left Corner-back.
Receives 3 armies for 5 territories.
Deploys 3 armies on blue left corner-back
Attacks blue left half-back from blue left corner-back (17 on 3). 5-5-3 v 4-2 (17 on 1). 5-2-2 v 4 (advances 16).
Attacks left mid-fielder from left half-back (16 on 5). 6-3-1 v 6-1 (15 on 4).4-2-2 v 3-2 (14 on 3). 5-2-1 v 5-2 (12 on 3). 5-3-2 v 3-1 (12 on 1). 5-3-2 v 4 (advances 11).
Fortifies 3 armies from blue goalie #4 to blue left mid-fielder.

Round 1
rocky mountain turn #1
Autodeploy of 3 armies each on Orange goalie #3, orange goalie #4, and blue goalie #2.
Receives 3 armies for 3 territories.
Deploys 3 armies on orange goalie #4.
Attacks Orange Right Corner-back (9 on 1). 4-3-3 v 4 (8 on 1). 4-3-1 v 2 (advances 7).
Fortify 5 armies from Orange goalie #3 to Orange RIght Corner-back.

danfrank turn #1
Autodeploy of 3 armies each on Orange goalie #1, blue goalie #3, and blue goalie #4.
Deploys 3 armies on blue goalie #3.
Attack orange left corner-back from orange goalie #1 (6 v 1). 6-3-2 v 6 (5 on 1). 4-4-4 v 4 (4 on 1). 4-4-2 v 3-3 (advances 3).
Attacks blue left cornerback from blue goalie #4 (6 on 1). 5-5-3 v 4 (advances 5)
Fortifies 8 from blue goalie #3 to blue left corner-back.

by **seamusk** on Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:20 pm

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EDITED just to note that this was a first draft. I have not double checked anything.

by **rocky mountain** on Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:44 pm

i'm not sure where the two center goalies of either side (#2 and #3?) can attack or bombard... could you explain that please?

by **seamusk** on Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:46 pm

rocky mountain wrote:i'm not sure where the two center goalies of either side (#2 and #3?) can attack or bombard... could you explain that please?

It is the same as for the end goalies. Basically there are two left goalies and two right goalies. The two right have the same options and the two left have the same options. If this can be clearer I'm open to ideas. My original examples showed both goalies on a side but I removed that because of how many arrows resulted...

by **seamusk** on Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:41 am

rocky mountain wrote:i'm not sure where the two center goalies of either side (#2 and #3?) can attack or bombard... could you explain that please?

I just added text on the samples so they say for goalies:

"Attack (both left goalies)"

Do you think that is clear enough? I'm stuck on this right now. I don't want to make a map update for just those two lines of text.

by **seamusk** on Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:08 am

just an xml update. Made some spelling fixes mostly. And hadn't realized that objectives require names. Fixed.

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by **t-o-m** on Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:18 pm

seamunsk there is no point in doing the XML right now.

its not even an adv. idea!

no1 will look at the XML yet and you do not even know if this map is going to work, it is symetrical which isnt good, and sports map dont really go down very well - so there isnt much point doing the XML at this stage.

by **seamusk** on Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:34 pm

t-o-m wrote:seamunsk there is no point in doing the XML right now.

its not even an adv. idea!

no1 will look at the XML yet and you do not even know if this map is going to work, it is symetrical which isnt good, and sports map dont really go down very well - so there isnt much point doing the XML at this stage.

Tom - I know how the foundry works. This map isn't an advanced idea because of the CAs. But it is far beyond that in terms of the handbook criteria. I will continue to move forward on this map which is better than letting it sit and rot due to the biases of the CAs. If you have any constructive input on the map, graphics, or gameplay I'd appreciate it.

by **t-o-m** on Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:01 pm

seamusk wrote:
t-o-m wrote:seamunsk there is no point in doing the XML right now.

its not even an adv. idea!

no1 will look at the XML yet and you do not even know if this map is going to work, it is symetrical which isnt good, and sports map dont really go down very well - so there isnt much point doing the XML at this stage.

Tom - I know how the foundry works. This map isn't an advanced idea because of the CAs. But it is far beyond that in terms of the handbook criteria. I will continue to move forward on this map which is better than letting it sit and rot due to the biases of the CAs. If you have any constructive input on the map, graphics, or gameplay I'd appreciate it.

the CA's are not being bias against you, they can hear you, they will check this, its just not a very good idea - there have been many many sports maps and symetrical maps previously and they seem to fail when they come to gameplay.
there is nothing in the handbook about advanced ideas, theyre just there to show people which maps are ready/near for receiving the idea stamp, and part of that is people being interested in it and showing a clear plan of how it will progress but the CA's know that it will fail at the gameplay unless something majorly different happens that isnt symetrical.
but by all means carry on trying if you want.

p.s as i mentioned as part of the idea stamp you need support "other than you and just 3 other friends" and the past 9 out of the past 12 posts have been by you.
(correct me if im wrong though)

by **seamusk** on Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:10 pm

t-o-m wrote:the CA's are not being bias against you, they can hear you, they will check this, its just not a very good idea - there have been many many sports maps and symetrical maps previously and they seem to fail when they come to gameplay.
there is nothing in the handbook about advanced ideas, theyre just there to show people which maps are ready/near for receiving the idea stamp, and part of that is people being interested in it and showing a clear plan of how it will progress but the CA's know that it will fail at the gameplay unless something majorly different happens that isnt symetrical.
but by all means carry on trying if you want.

p.s as i mentioned as part of the idea stamp you need support "other than you and just 3 other friends" and the past 9 out of the past 12 posts have been by you.
(correct me if im wrong though)

Read the whole thread not just the last 9 to 12 posts (which only prove that I actively update the map regularly). All of your points are addressed. And we have 3 test games in play and so far the gameplay is working well. Don't try to just put the map down because you are mad at me. Read the thread before you draw conclusions. When you assume you make an xxx out of you mainly.

by **gimil** on Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:30 pm

seamusk wrote:
t-o-m wrote:seamunsk there is no point in doing the XML right now.

its not even an adv. idea!

no1 will look at the XML yet and you do not even know if this map is going to work, it is symetrical which isnt good, and sports map dont really go down very well - so there isnt much point doing the XML at this stage.

Tom - I know how the foundry works. This map isn't an advanced idea because of the CAs. But it is far beyond that in terms of the handbook criteria. I will continue to move forward on this map which is better than letting it sit and rot due to the biases of the CAs. If you have any constructive input on the map, graphics, or gameplay I'd appreciate it.

So our reliable (yet unofficial) stats analysis tack owes me many a favour. I pull one for today

p.s. theses stats dont included one or two posts made when I was typing this up, but they are still pretty accurate.

Start Date: May 23rd, 2008 - 6:58 pm (gmt)
Revision Date: June 8th, 2008
Posts: 71
Posts since last revision: 9
Posts/day: 3.94
Posts/revision: 4.50

Posts by Creator: 40 (56.34%)
Posts by C.A.'s: 9 (12.68%)
Posts by Others: 22 (30.99%)

Posts not by Creator: 31
Feedback Posts (non creator): 15 (48.39%)
Support Posts(non creator): 4 (12.90%)
Spam Posts(non creator): 12 (38.71%)

Ok wanna hear the brutal truth? Your map is NOT ready for the main foundry, heck its not even ready for [adv. idea].

1. Of every post that isnt yours only 4 showed supportfor the map.
2. Tack has averaged all his maps to get "Spam 23.13%" with you currently sitting over that at 30.99%
3. 50.34% or posts are by YOU the map creator, according to every other stat this is the highest percent on map making posts in their own thread. Conqueropoly has alot less than that and it has three people who were working on it.
4. Another average stat, "Feedback: 67.10% of post not by the creator", you currently sit at 48.38%. Nuff said.

Now that fact that you post SO much on your own map is boosting its post count. This bring it to my attention and when I look over it, all I see is your username posting over and over again. The average map gains adv. idea in 5-6 pages of posts. them stamped not long after that. Some take longer some dont. But right now with the level of post by a single user im not seeing enought quality posts to warrent an adv idea tag. I was going to wait until I seen a little more by other posters.

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