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Postby Industrial Helix on Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:17 pm

Just throwing this out there but would there be any support for a 50 States Map?

Gameplay: a lot like 13 Colonies, collection bonuses for holding whole states. The states would be broken up into smaller territories, except the smaller ones like Rhode Island, Connecticut and Delaware. No roads, just classic territories. No bonus regions, just the collection bonus... possibly an auto deploy on DC, because it doesn't really fit as a state in the collection bonus. I'm leaning away from an airport gimmick to link up east and West... I feel like with random drops, it should be fair enough. Though Alaska and Hawaii will need some airplane or boat gimmick, maybe put in several airports on the map that one way attack Hawaii or Alaska, so the states can be assaulted by pretty much anywhere else in the USA, whereas airports only on the West Coast just make Alaska and Hawaiieasy states to collect for whoever builds a base on on the westcoast, though, it could be a fair counterbalance to the east coasters who get a quick bonus from DC. I'll think about it.
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Re: 50 States

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:27 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:Just throwing this out there but would there be any support for a 50 States Map?

Gameplay: a lot like 13 Colonies, collection bonuses for holding whole states. The states would be broken up into smaller territories, except the smaller ones like Rhode Island, Connecticut and Delaware. No roads, just classic territories. No bonus regions, just the collection bonus... possibly an auto deploy on DC, because it doesn't really fit as a state in the collection bonus. I'm leaning away from an airport gimmick to link up east and West... I feel like with random drops, it should be fair enough. Though Alaska and Hawaii will need some airplane or boat gimmick, maybe put in several airports on the map that one way attack Hawaii or Alaska, so the states can be assaulted by pretty much anywhere else in the USA, whereas airports only on the West Coast just make Alaska and Hawaiieasy states to collect for whoever builds a base on on the westcoast, though, it could be a fair counterbalance to the east coasters who get a quick bonus from DC. I'll think about it.

Um, IH, you're behind the times. Look at my USA 2.1 map! though another one with different gameplay could happen, it couldn't be done within the current size restrictions. I actually need 200px wider on the small to make the NE not so cramped.
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Re: 50 States

Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:10 pm

Yeah, I've seen USA 2.1, but I'm feeling its too big and I'm not a huge fan of the roads, I figure armies aren't going to move like a family on vacation.
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Re: 50 States

Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:13 pm

whereas this map would come from the perspect of armies seeking to unite parts of the USA, like state by state. A lot like how 13 colonies works... if there's no support or felt need for a map like this, I guess I'll just go back to my idea of mapping the American wars, I've done the revolution... next is 1812.
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Re: 50 States

Postby Gilligan on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:14 pm

I would personally love to see a USA revamp (not your original intent, but I'm gonna run with it).

Similar to Das Schloss revamp...wait for all games to finish, and add some territories (ie, small New England territories).

This map also has very poor army placement, look at Wyoming...I mean really! There's so much room, yet the army is right on the name of the friggin state?!
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Re: 50 States

Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:16 pm

Gilligan wrote:I would personally love to see a USA revamp (not your original intent, but I'm gonna run with it).

Similar to Das Schloss revamp...wait for all games to finish, and add some territories (ie, small New England territories).

This map also has very poor army placement, look at Wyoming...I mean really! There's so much room, yet the army is right on the name of the friggin state?!

Yeah, I really dislike the USA map... it feels too much like something you might see in a preschool. Same for the map pack. 2.1 does look good, but its kind of huge.
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Re: 50 States

Postby Gilligan on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:20 pm

I really like the map pack, and yes 2.1 is nice but huuuuuuuge.

Would it be possible to do something like that? Revamp USA and add 12 territories?

Now that I actually see how many territories would need to be added, maybe it'd screw it up too much...But it would make the map much better.
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Re: 50 States

Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:17 pm

yeah, I like the idea of revamping USA and adding the missing territories, a color scheme change would be welcome as well, just make it a little less campy.
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Re: 50 States

Postby Industrial Helix on Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:23 am

If a new map were to be considered, there's always the whole Manifest Destiny thing:

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Re: 50 States

Postby The Bison King on Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:37 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:Just throwing this out there but would there be any support for a 50 States Map?

Gameplay: a lot like 13 Colonies, collection bonuses for holding whole states. The states would be broken up into smaller territories, except the smaller ones like Rhode Island, Connecticut and Delaware. No roads, just classic territories. No bonus regions, just the collection bonus... possibly an auto deploy on DC, because it doesn't really fit as a state in the collection bonus. I'm leaning away from an airport gimmick to link up east and West... I feel like with random drops, it should be fair enough. Though Alaska and Hawaii will need some airplane or boat gimmick, maybe put in several airports on the map that one way attack Hawaii or Alaska, so the states can be assaulted by pretty much anywhere else in the USA, whereas airports only on the West Coast just make Alaska and Hawaiieasy states to collect for whoever builds a base on on the westcoast, though, it could be a fair counterbalance to the east coasters who get a quick bonus from DC. I'll think about it.

My name is the Bison King and I would like to see this map.
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Re: 50 States

Postby Industrial Helix on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:37 pm

excellent, glsd to hear it BK, I might put some serious effort into making it now. I like the idea of including the territorial aquiditions of the USA into the mix, I think they'd make for more interesting bonus regions if I went that route instead of the collection bonus. Otherwise they might make for cool region colorings, instead of just doing the red, white and blue scheme I used on 13 Colonies.
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Re: 50 States

Postby ViperOverLord on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:57 pm

The Bison King wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:Just throwing this out there but would there be any support for a 50 States Map?

Gameplay: a lot like 13 Colonies, collection bonuses for holding whole states. The states would be broken up into smaller territories, except the smaller ones like Rhode Island, Connecticut and Delaware. No roads, just classic territories. No bonus regions, just the collection bonus... possibly an auto deploy on DC, because it doesn't really fit as a state in the collection bonus. I'm leaning away from an airport gimmick to link up east and West... I feel like with random drops, it should be fair enough. Though Alaska and Hawaii will need some airplane or boat gimmick, maybe put in several airports on the map that one way attack Hawaii or Alaska, so the states can be assaulted by pretty much anywhere else in the USA, whereas airports only on the West Coast just make Alaska and Hawaiieasy states to collect for whoever builds a base on on the westcoast, though, it could be a fair counterbalance to the east coasters who get a quick bonus from DC. I'll think about it.

My name is the Bison King and I would like to see this map.


I am thee ViperOverLord and I concur. I like the idea of having regions within colored states too and making it a large territory map and having to collect all counties for a particular state bonus. And especially small states like Rhode Island, Deleware; you could represent them but w/o a bonus.

Also, this map does not conflict with USA 2.1. Both concepts are valid and unique.
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