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Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [See 1st Post]

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Should the point structure be adjusted for the Final to avoid a Winner that does nothing

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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby danalan on Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:25 pm

brandoncfi wrote:The final 2 spots for round 3 have been filled by

Dazoot
and
danalan

danalan beat out MPI winner Hath by 1 point to move on

Nobody is more shocked by this development than me. I don't know whether to be happy or not -- the sheer number of games makes this tournament a true ordeal.
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby grunion on Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:02 am

Wow, this tourney was a doozy - sorry to be eliminated but glad to have the time back! Now I can actually play some games on maps that I like once again.

Good luck to all moving forward, thanks for the great games and thanks especially to the mods for the monumental organizational task that this one was. Well done!
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby Jondalar on Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:28 pm

brandoncfi wrote:The final 2 spots for round 3 have been filled by

Dazoot
and
danalan

danalan beat out MPI winner Hath by 1 point to move on

I've had a busy week with Holloween and then elections but I'll try to get back on track before the end of the week


Hath lost out by one point because I suicided into him in our last bonus game. I did it deliberately, with a view on the bigger picture. I was looking at my opponents for the next round, and realised Hath was one point away from being in the next round in my group. I was already safely qualified, so I took a strategic decision to eliminate someone who I considered to be one of the most dangerous players I have played against.

I was interested as to what my fellow players thought about a move like this. Hath has made it quite clear he is slightly upset by it. Does it constitue bad sportsmanship, or is "all fair in love and war"? And how does that compare with a strategy of just deploying the whole game, never attacking or getting cards, so that you average about 6.2 points a game? This is the first tournament I've played in, so I was wondering what the etiquette was.
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby brandoncfi on Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:43 pm

Jondalar wrote:Hath lost out by one point because I suicided into him in our last bonus game. I did it deliberately, with a view on the bigger picture. I was looking at my opponents for the next round, and realised Hath was one point away from being in the next round in my group. I was already safely qualified, so I took a strategic decision to eliminate someone who I considered to be one of the most dangerous players I have played against.

I was interested as to what my fellow players thought about a move like this. Hath has made it quite clear he is slightly upset by it. Does it constitue bad sportsmanship, or is "all fair in love and war"? And how does that compare with a strategy of just deploying the whole game, never attacking or getting cards, so that you average about 6.2 points a game? This is the first tournament I've played in, so I was wondering what the etiquette was.


Having played against Hath I would say he is one of the best players in the tourney. So I was very superised to see that he didn't move on. I feel that this tourney is more about positioning yourself for points rather than winning any particular game. In the final round It would be smart for players to target the best players for an early takeout thus reducing their point total. This is what you did in this case...you made it much easier for yourself (and the rest of us) in round 3 by eleminating a top player. There are several different strategical appraoches you can take in this tourney and I beleive they are all fair. The points are the only thing in my tourney that will guarantee moving on. You were in a postion to take him out because you where already safely in the next round. For my tourneys this is a legit move. Saying that.. I would be P.O.ed if you sucided me and I lost out by 1 point this tourney requires a big commitment and to come so close is very frustrating.


all main groups have recieved at least their first batch of games

Also 2 more maps have become active so look for them in Batch 4
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby brandoncfi on Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:03 pm

Hath has been activated to replace a no show he will be part of Apple Group
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby Hath on Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:02 am

brandoncfi wrote:Hath has been activated to replace a no show he will be part of Apple Group


Whooo glad to be back in. :D

Though my grades might not agree. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby danalan on Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:56 pm

Jondalar wrote:Hath lost out by one point because I suicided into him in our last bonus game. I did it deliberately, with a view on the bigger picture. I was looking at my opponents for the next round, and realised Hath was one point away from being in the next round in my group. I was already safely qualified, so I took a strategic decision to eliminate someone who I considered to be one of the most dangerous players I have played against.

I was interested as to what my fellow players thought about a move like this. Hath has made it quite clear he is slightly upset by it. Does it constitue bad sportsmanship, or is "all fair in love and war"? And how does that compare with a strategy of just deploying the whole game, never attacking or getting cards, so that you average about 6.2 points a game? This is the first tournament I've played in, so I was wondering what the etiquette was.

"Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games,..."
Hath has been activated to replace a no show he will be part of Apple Group


Glad to see that fate has intervened to restore the natural order. I look forward to beating Hath in a more direct manner.
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby Jondalar on Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:48 pm

Hath wrote:
brandoncfi wrote:Hath has been activated to replace a no show he will be part of Apple Group


Whooo glad to be back in. :D

Though my grades might not agree. :lol: :lol:

Lol...looks like fate answered my question...!

This is going to be one tough round!

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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby Dazoot on Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:41 am

Scores updated for all Groups as of Nov.17 @ 0030hrs.
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby frankroz on Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:46 am

Banana Group Standings:

61 games officially in the box - here are the leaders:

Colson - 4.828 points per game
Globe - 4.785
Lisbon 4.453
Chadwick - 4.167
Roz - 4.160
Lunatic - 4.030
Kid - 3.910
Herus - 3.700

Colson has 13 wins - Herus has 19 last place finishes
only the top 2 move on - so you know who to focus on
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby danalan on Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:53 pm

Could we add the win numbers to the scoreboard? It would be useful to know the total games won for each player, as this number affects who advances. I'm thinking 4 columns: Round 1 wins, round 2 wins, round 3 wins, and total wins.

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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby KidWhisky on Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:43 pm

Thanks for posting that frankroz. I was almost desperate enough to calculate the tally myself. I'm glad you came to the rescue :)
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby Dazoot on Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:26 pm

Updates posted for all groups as of Nov.23 @1530 hrs.
Sorry for the delay but I'm back on track so they will be coming regularly now. And the games totals can be added.
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby danalan on Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:07 pm

Dazoot wrote:Updates posted for all groups as of Nov.23 @1530 hrs.
Sorry for the delay but I'm back on track so they will be coming regularly now. And the games totals can be added.
Great! Thank you, so much.
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Bananna Update

Postby frankroz on Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:36 am

86 total games in the books:

Colson 4.911 avg per game (19 wins)
Globe 4.865 (15)
Lisbon 4.686 (11)
Roz 4.463 (7)
Whiskey 4.220 (11)
Lunatic 4.178 (7)
Chadwick 4.146 (9)
Herus 3.763 (7)
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby danalan on Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:26 pm

The first game of the Apple group is finished.

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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby Dazoot on Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:25 am

Updates posted for all gopups as of Nov.24 @ 2400hrs. As for the game totals I'm waiting for clarification on the wild card pick procedure as there appears to be a difference whether it's total games or scores.
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby kingpin01 on Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:01 am

There's a scoring error on group Chocolate. NewVEmpire got 55 points from one game. I don't think that's possible :lol:
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby Jondalar on Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:09 am

Whats happening with Apple group's next set of games? I got an email with a bunch of games, but it seems like they have all vanished?

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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby frankroz on Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:41 pm

at this point - all games that have not started have been deleted by the system


the tourney coordinator will need to recreate those games




any games that were still out there - i sent emails to everyone to get them signed up - but some of them have since vanished
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby frankroz on Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:45 pm

Dazoot wrote:Updates posted for all gopups as of Nov.24 @ 2400hrs. As for the game totals I'm waiting for clarification on the wild card pick procedure as there appears to be a difference whether it's total games or scores.




just my two cents...this is stated on page 1 in the rules for the tourney:
Round 3
This round will have 24 players split into 3 groups
Top two players move on. There are two wildcard spots that will go to the two highsest scores not already in the final game


seems to me the 2 players with the highest score in round 3 move on - it does not state total # of wins - rather score.


let's not be changing the rules in the middle of tis puppy ;-)
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby brandoncfi on Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:47 pm

Apple Group has received Batch 2
Chocolate group has received Batch 3

Im working on
Banana Group Batch 3.1
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby frankroz on Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:59 am

Banana Update:

95 games in the books:
Colson 4.916 (average per game - 20 wins)
Lisbon 4.789 (13)
Globe 4.781 (15)
Roz 4.394 (7)
Chadwick 4.306 (11)
Kid 4.286 (12)
Lunatic 4.286 (8)
Herus 3.869 (9)
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby brandoncfi on Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:37 am

brandoncfi wrote:Im working on
Banana Group Batch 3.1
remaining Bonus groups

I have finished the above and sent out the PM's
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Re: Map Blaster IV: The Pantheon Jihad [Round 3 Beginning Nov 1]

Postby Dazoot on Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:37 am

Apple group please join Game 3730160 As it was missed on the last PM.
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