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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby PopeBenXVI on Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:26 pm

Yes we have got side tracked.....as much as I love debating liberal theology:) Back to Palin

Neither Sarah nor Obama have many qualifications to be president. Even if you are a solid Obama supporter you have to admit his resume is as thin as an Olson twin. The whole "Heatbeat away" still makes me laugh as by comparison you would be 50 some odd days before putting someone directly into the presidency who has no more experience than Palin and arguably less depending on what you try to count as experience. You are right when you say the race is between Mccain and Obama. If your standard for not liking Palin is she is a social conservative....fine, but you still can't ignore all of Obama's questionable ties. People will judge you based on the company you keep and their is much truth to that being a good indicator of who you are.
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby hiddendragon on Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:49 pm

Yea, Palin is a nut but she's a total MILF as well...I'd give her another baby to feed
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby pimpdave on Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:06 pm

hiddendragon wrote:Yea, Palin is a nut but she's a total MILF as well...I'd give her another baby to feed


In that case, you should vote for Obama. If Palin goes back to Alaska, your plans to seduce her will be much easier to carry out, whereas the White House might be a harder nut to crack (or bust, as the case may be).
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby PopeBenXVI on Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:10 pm

Well Snorril......Obama did approve sex ed for kindergardeners, so look it up. Here are some excerps of approved material from SB99 which he voted to approve. Like it or not here is the truth. Teaching kids about places a stranger should not touch you and this garbage are way different.

- A person’s genitals, reproductive organs, and genes determine whether the person is male or female.
- A boy/man has nipples, a penis, a scrotum, and testicles.
- A girl/woman has breasts, nipples, a vulva, a clitoris, a vagina, a uterus, and ovaries.
- Both boys and girls have body parts that feel good when touched.
- Vaginal intercourse – when a penis is placed inside a vagina – is the most common way for a sperm and egg to join.
- Masterbation should be done is a private place
- Some people of the same sex can be attracted to each other and fall in love.

WHAT THE %&#@ do 4-5 year olds need this crap for? Who is the radical.... Sarah who says parents should educate their kids on sex when that child is old enough or Obama who wants to reach 5 year olds about masterbating & intercourse?
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby hiddendragon on Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:18 pm

pimpdave wrote:
hiddendragon wrote:Yea, Palin is a nut but she's a total MILF as well...I'd give her another baby to feed


In that case, you should vote for Obama. If Palin goes back to Alaska, your plans to seduce her will be much easier to carry out, whereas the White House might be a harder nut to crack (or bust, as the case may be).

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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby Frigidus on Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:34 pm

PopeBenXVI wrote:Well Snorril......Obama did approve sex ed for kindergardeners, so look it up. Here are some excerps of approved material from SB99 which he voted to approve. Like it or not here is the truth. Teaching kids about places a stranger should not touch you and this garbage are way different.

- A person’s genitals, reproductive organs, and genes determine whether the person is male or female.
- A boy/man has nipples, a penis, a scrotum, and testicles.
- A girl/woman has breasts, nipples, a vulva, a clitoris, a vagina, a uterus, and ovaries.
- Both boys and girls have body parts that feel good when touched.
- Vaginal intercourse – when a penis is placed inside a vagina – is the most common way for a sperm and egg to join.
- Masterbation should be done is a private place
- Some people of the same sex can be attracted to each other and fall in love.

WHAT THE %&#@ do 4-5 year olds need this crap for? Who is the radical.... Sarah who says parents should educate their kids on sex when that child is old enough or Obama who wants to reach 5 year olds about masterbating & intercourse?


Obama is often quoted as saying that when it comes to sex education in public schools, “it’s the right thing to do ... to provide age-appropriate sex education, science-based sex education in schools,” placing an emphasis on the word "appropriate." But Obama has also said he does not support, "explicit sex education to children in kindergarten."

In a debate with Republican Alan Keyes, against whom Obama was running for an open seat in the U.S. Senate in 2004, Obama made it clear that at least one reason he supported the bill was that it would help teach young kids to recognize inappropriate behavior and pedophiles:

Keyes, Oct. 21, 2004: Well, I had noticed that, in your voting, you had voted, at one point, that sex education should begin in kindergarten, and you justified it by saying that it would be "age-appropriate" sex education. [It] made me wonder just exactly what you think is "age-appropriate."

Obama: We have a existing law that mandates sex education in the schools. We want to make sure that it's medically accurate and age-appropriate. Now, I'll give you an example, because I have a six-year-old daughter and a three-year-old daughter, and one of the things my wife and I talked to our daughter about is the possibility of somebody touching them inappropriately, and what that might mean. And that was included specifically in the law, so that kindergarteners are able to exercise some possible protection against abuse, because I have family members as well as friends who suffered abuse at that age. So, that's the kind of stuff that I was talking about in that piece of legislation.


SB99: Course material and instruction shall discuss and provide
for the development of positive communication skills to maintain healthy relationships and avoid unwanted sexual activity. ... Course material and instruction shall teach pupils ... how to say no to unwanted sexual advances ... and shall include information about verbal, physical, and visual sexual harassment, including without limitation nonconsensual sexual advances, nonconsensual physical sexual contact, and rape by an acquaintance. The course material and instruction shall contain methods of preventing sexual assault by an acquaintance, including exercising good judgment and avoiding behavior that impairs one's judgment.


Seems that teaching kids about places a stranger can not touch you is all that kindergarteners are taught. The stuff you list is likely from the part of the bill addressing later sex ed. As someone who went through Illinois schools (both public and private) from age three to eighteen, I can assure you that they didn't even mention the stuff you listed until I was an 8th grader...and let's be honest, by that point all but the most sheltered know all about that kind of crap.
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby PopeBenXVI on Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:00 pm

Unless you were in kindergarden in the last few years there you would not know what is happening right now. (unless you have kids in kindergarden) The document approved by Obama was for K-12 and did not specify what to teach in what grade to my knowledge. Again, Obama can say what he wants but it was originally for 6-12 and was then amended to include K-5 as well. Politicians say things all the time to try and make excuses but you need to ask what were his actions on this? Aparently his idea of "age approprate ed" is pretty broad.
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby pimpdave on Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:33 pm

PopeBenXVI wrote:Unless you were in kindergarden in the last few years there you would not know what is happening right now. (unless you have kids in kindergarden) The document approved by Obama was for K-12 and did not specify what to teach in what grade to my knowledge. Again, Obama can say what he wants but it was originally for 6-12 and was then amended to include K-5 as well. Politicians say things all the time to try and make excuses but you need to ask what were his actions on this? Aparently his idea of "age approprate ed" is pretty broad.


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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby PopeBenXVI on Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:03 pm

Grasping for straws sounds more like the Democrates sending 30 lawyers to Alaska to try and dig up dirt on Sarah.

I would like a truthful liberal to admit the reason they hate Sarah is because she is a social conservative and that they know she is no dirtier a politician than any of the rest running in Obama's camp. At least be honest. The Democrates and feminist groups are even saying she is a backward step for women.....WHAT? How can you be for the career advancement of women for so many years and preach about "breaking the glass ceiling" and not support Sarah going for the VP spot?

It's because she does not support the multi million dollar abortion business, thats why. Over 80% of all down syndrome babies are aborted and she stands up and shows how happy her family is with one. She is and will be cutting into their profits and they are pissed. Any true feminist would support her for her career and not slam her because she is pro life. If they are for "Freedom of Choice" as they say.... they need to respect that her choice is to not support abortion.
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby Simon Viavant on Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:14 pm

Here are the facts about Sarah Palin:
She wants to drill for energy independence, but all the oil in our pipeline goes overseas and she does nothing about it.
She used taxpayer money to fund "educational" ads about ballot measure 2 that were suspected to be slanted.
She fired the commissioner of public safety for not firing a tpolice officer she suspecting of abusing his position and abusing his family (and who had a messy divorce with her sister). The entire Alaska state trooper's union supported both the officer and the Public safety commissioner.
She voted for the bridge to nowhere, and by the time she voted against it, it was so unpopular that anyone who cared about their career would've done the same. Then she took credit for stopping it.
She's an opportunist who took credit for busting a lot of corrupt politicians, when actually she had nothing to do with that.
She has avoided making any contravercial decision while in office in order to keep her popularity.
The majority of state employees dislike her.

And she'd be a step backwards for women because she's against a woman's right to choose, and because she'd make a terrible VP, and people might be reluctant to vote for a woman after that.
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby Frigidus on Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:25 pm

PopeBenXVI wrote:Grasping for straws sounds more like the Democrates sending 30 lawyers to Alaska to try and dig up dirt on Sarah.


No surprise, that's pretty much par for the course lately.

PopeBenXVI wrote:It's because she does not support the multi million dollar abortion business, thats why.


Well, quite possibly, although that's true of the majority of Republicans, so that wouldn't really explain a particular dislike for Palin.

PopeBenXVI wrote:Any true feminist would support her for her career and not slam her because she is pro life.


Actually, a true feminist would fight for what they believe and not show preference to Palin just because she's a woman.

PopeBenXVI wrote:If they are for "Freedom of Choice" as they say.... they need to respect that her choice is to not support abortion.


I don't think they have an issue with her opinion as much as the possibility that she would support a shift in the supreme court that may overturn Roe v. Wade.
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby griffin_slayer on Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:30 pm

you do know that palin has executive experience and obama doesn't ... right?
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby Frigidus on Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:10 pm

griffin_slayer wrote:you do know that palin has executive experience and obama doesn't ... right?


Eh, Obama's no peach either. Personally, I'm sick of all the assholes with experience. I don't want a career politician running my country, he's just going to f*ck around and try to appease his party. A president has a cabinet for a reason, after all.
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby PopeBenXVI on Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:52 pm

You prove my point Simon. You say she would be a step back because of the abortion issue. When you say "right to choose" why don't you be more specific...choose what? Oh, the right to choose if you want to murder your baby or not....now I know what you mean.

Frigidus, You are wrong about feminism. What it started for and was originally about compaired to what liberals have turned it into today are completly different. Even Susan B. Anthony one of the backbones of the sufferage/feminist movement was against abortion and even directly called it child murder & infanticide.

Liberals are mad because a strong woman is in the spotlight and what makes her strong is she embraces her true femininity. Feminist groups have been striving to put women in power for years and their obvious bias against her is pathetic because she values life which any sain compassionate woman would. Modern day feminist groups have been supporting woman for years purly because they are women regardless of credentials. They are most of the reason companies have to hire a certian number of woman and minorities even if a white male is more qualified.

I personally lost a new job potential because of this discrimination. I was 1 of over 70 applicants for a position and it was narrowed to me and a minority for the second interview. I was even told I was more qualified but that they needed to have a more diverse staff and meet a quota. Obama also supports this idiology as does his pro black first church. What is America coming to if the most qualified people don't get the job? How does that promote people to better themselves?
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby Frigidus on Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:08 am

PopeBenXVI wrote:Frigidus, You are wrong about feminism. What it started for and was originally about compaired to what liberals have turned it into today are completly different. Even Susan B. Anthony one of the backbones of the sufferage/feminist movement was against abortion and even directly called it child murder & infanticide.


I hadn't meant to imply that abortion was a feminist issue, sorry if it had seemed that way. I was only saying that a feminist, when given the chance to vote for a woman whom they disagree with, would not vote for her simply to advance "feminism".
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby Snorri1234 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:50 am

PopeBenXVI wrote:You prove my point Simon. You say she would be a step back because of the abortion issue. When you say "right to choose" why don't you be more specific...choose what? Oh, the right to choose if you want to murder your baby or not....now I know what you mean.

Yes, that right. You can be for or against abortion, but you have to give everyone the oppurtunity to decide that for themselves.
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Re: Who has two paws and hates Sarah Palin

Postby The1exile on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:05 am

PopeBenXVI wrote:The Democrates and feminist groups are even saying she is a backward step for women.....WHAT?


link plz.

PopeBenXVI wrote:How can you be for the career advancement of women for so many years and preach about "breaking the glass ceiling" and not support Sarah going for the VP spot?


Easy. I don't think that thinking that this woman is a bad VP candidate is the same as thinking all women would be bad necessarily as a VP candidate. You;re too tied up with false assumptions (like that Sarah Palin is representative of the rest of America's female population).

PopeBenXVI wrote:It's because she does not support the multi million dollar abortion business, thats why. Over 80% of all down syndrome babies are aborted and she stands up and shows how happy her family is with one. She is and will be cutting into their profits and they are pissed. Any true feminist would support her for her career and not slam her because she is pro life. If they are for "Freedom of Choice" as they say.... they need to respect that her choice is to not support abortion.

Bullshit. You don't seem to understand what "choice" actually means. I personally hate abortion but I still support the freedom of choice - because freedom includes the freedom to take responsibility. If you're for choice, but want to remain against abortion, the responsible course of action would not be to outlaw it but to instead try and make it a social stigma, rather than a legal one (because backstreet clinics with the falcon punch/coat hanger method will still exist).
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