McCain aspires to be a dictator!!!!!!!!!

[heavycola]

Jay says there are no answers - what he means is there are no answers that he wants to hear.

Why was the rubble from the towers immediately shipped overseas before they could examine it?

Why did they "pull" building 7?

Why was the collapse of building 7 reported in England BEFORE it actually collapsed?

How did a terrorist passport survive the attack?

Why did the FBI confiscate all the surveillance video of the pentagon, that could "put to bed" the doubts that a plane flew into the building?

How could these inexperienced terrorist pilots have flown the plane into the Pentagon in such a way that even the most experienced pilots in the world would have a hard time doing?

Why did the towers fall at free fall speed when coming into contact with undamaged lower floors- defying physics?

Why did Bush lie about seeing the first plane hit while watching tv outside of the classroom?

Why did Cheney give the orders to "stand down"?

Why did Bush and Cheney have to testify together, not under oath?

I don't expect you to give satisfactory answers to these........

Answer: because the antichrist walks among us and has begun to spread his evil through the freemasons, the bilderbergers and whatever group made tzor wear a dead seabird on his head. As the bible has foretold, the lizardmen are collapsing buildings, training terror pilots and defying physics all over the place. The new world order is coming.
Am i right?

[Dancing Mustard]

Why did they "pull" building 7?

Because it was too big for them to get their mouths around.

Why was the collapse of building 7 reported in England BEFORE it actually collapsed?

Because NY is 5 hours behind London. It's a timezones thing.

How did a terrorist passport survive the attack?

By paying attention to the flight attendant and adopting the brace position in a calm and timely fashion.

How could these inexperienced terrorist pilots have flown the plane into the Pentagon in such a way that even the most experienced pilots in the world would have a hard time doing?

Begginer's luck. Obv.

Why did the towers fall at free fall speed when coming into contact with undamaged lower floors- defying physics?

Because rules are made to be broken. Also, because they weren't wearing a parachute.

Why did Bush lie about seeing the first plane hit while watching tv outside of the classroom?

Because he didn't want to upset the children he was with.

Why did Cheney give the orders to "stand down"?

Because he moonlights as a step-aerobics instructor.

[jay_a2j]

Answer: because the antichrist walks among us and has begun to spread his evil through the freemasons, the bilderbergers and whatever group made tzor wear a dead seabird on his head. As the bible has foretold, the lizardmen are collapsing buildings, training terror pilots and defying physics all over the place. The new world order is coming.
Am i right?

Well, you wouldn't be able to come up with better answers, but still it's not acceptable.


EPIC FAIL!

[jay_a2j]

Answer - because believing alex jones fits YOUR agenda.

Or because saying Alex Jones is completely discredited after one(possable) mistake fits your agenda?

I loved this! Awesome response!

[comic boy]

So many teapots

[jay_a2j]

McCain girl....don't get her angry!

[Juan_Bottom]

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/ ... 000032.txt
reeeeal sealed.

No chief, the records of what, if anything, Marvin Bush had to do with security are sealed. Unless you would like to share those with us too? This appears to just be the basics of the company itself. And does show that they did a lot, from operating and installing cameras, to physical security, to maintenece.

There is no record of the role jesus played in the kennedy assassination, either. We simply cannot be certain that he wasn't involved! AND THAT MEANS HE ALMOST CERTAINLY WAS!!1!!!!!

And there is no online record of how far your head is shoved up your arse. So I'm guessing that it must be ALL the way up.

So he's a liar.

There is a difference between being wrong, and being a liar. Which is what I pointed out. For instance, by my reasoning you were wrong about the records^. By your reasoning you are a liar.

so i can appreciate that when he's discredited and shown to be a liar, it's hard to accept.

I'm having a hard time accepting that you are a liar myself. Do you think that you are a liar, or do you think that you are wrong?

You are a muppet, so desperate to believe in this nonsense that you deny it and make excuses for this self-publicising fraudster.

I never made excuses to justify my listening to his show. I said that he was wrong, chief. Do you filter everything that anyone says through your crazy filter first?

Answer - because believing alex jones fits YOUR agenda.

Or because saying Alex Jones is completely discredited after one(possable) mistake fits your agenda?

I loved this! Awesome response!

I stand by my reply. I want to see a nice conform list of how, and why Alex Jones has been discredited.

[heavycola]

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/ ... 000032.txt
reeeeal sealed.

No chief, the records of what, if anything, Marvin Bush had to do with security are sealed.

What records are you bleating about? if records are sealed in secret, how do you know what they are? Don't tell me - alex jones says so.

here are some more telling and unsealed records:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/ ... 500029.txt

Stratesec (then known as Securacom) filing for the quarter ending June 2001. Please note Marvin Bush is no longer on the board.



Yet: Here is a video of jones telling a crowd of people, at ground zero, that Marvin Bush was in charge of security at the WTC on 9/11.

That is a HUGE claim. Because it suggests the evil Bush-lizard family could have walked in there and set the explosives themselves. This helps alex jones because it makes his consipracy theories more belivable. It helps him in his mission to get more people to listen to him. It is a huge claim, which makes it a huge lie, not a fucking mistake, a slip of the tongue, or an innocent error. Jesus christ, if i can find records proving that a) marvin bush wasn't in charge of stratesec, let alone the company, let alone the WTC, after a quick search online, you need to ask why this man didn't manage to check his outrageous claims himself.
1) marvin Bush was in charge of stratesec
2) He was in charge until the morning of 9/11
2) stratesec was in charge of WTC security
So that's three unsupported and provably false claims. All made, on video, by alex jones.
You asked for him to be discredited - well there it is.

or, do please try and explain away his problems with the truth. Remember - don't let the facts get in the way of a good troofer theory!

[Juan_Bottom]

What records are you bleating about? if records are sealed in secret, how do you know what they are? Don't tell me - alex jones says so.

No you idiot, the records of what, if anything, Marvin Bush did are secret. Look them up, they ain't there. I asked you to share them... and if you're so much smarter than I, why don't you prove me wrong?

This is all straight from his own site. If he's a liar then he does a bad job of it.
http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/bu ... y_link.htm
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11 ... le_911.htm

1) marvin Bush was in charge of stratesec
2) He was in charge until the morning of 9/11
3) stratesec was in charge of WTC security

1)

George W. Bush's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines, according to public records. The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for years to the Bush family.

2) He was in charge until the morning of 9/11.--> I can't see the video

The security company, formerly named Securacom and now named Stratesec, is in Sterling, Va.. Its CEO, Barry McDaniel, said the company had a ``completion contract" to handle some of the security at the World Trade Center ``up to the day the buildings fell down."

3)

A company that provided security at New York City's World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport in Washington, D.C., and to United Airlines between 1995 and 2001, was backed by a private Kuwaiti-American investment firm with ties to a brother of President Bush and the Bush family, according to records obtained by the American Reporter.

Barry McDaniel, CEO of the company since January 2002, declines on security grounds to give specific details about work the company did at the World Trade Center. According to McDaniel, the contract was ongoing (a "completion contract"), and "not quite completed when the Center went down." The company designed a system, but - as he points out - that obviously "didn't have anything to do with planes flying into buildings

Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.

When, following the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey began its multi-million-dollar, multiyear revamping of security in and around the Twin Towers and Buildings 4 and 5, Securacom was among numerous contractors hired in the upgrade

In fact Cola... I have a challenge for you. Call into his show on monday, and ask him yourself... CHALLENGE him with your superior knowledge. I guarantee you that you'll get to ask your question, because he always takes the calls of those who disagree with him. I'll be listening, and I'll admit I'm wrong when he stuttters and stumbles all over your wing-ding of a question.

[Snorri1234]

What records are you bleating about? if records are sealed in secret, how do you know what they are? Don't tell me - alex jones says so.

No you idiot, the records of what, if anything, Marvin Bush did are secret. Look them up, they ain't there. I asked you to share them... and if you're so much smarter than I, why don't you prove me wrong?

He didn't actually do anything! The records aren't secret, they are non-existant.

This is all straight from his own site. If he's a liar then he does a bad job of it.

No kidding.

[OnlyAmbrose]

Alex Jones is discredited and a liar.

Proof please. Just don't make wild accusations without backing it up.

Irony killing me

Oh god I think I'm going to die

[Juan_Bottom]

He didn't actually do anything! The records aren't secret, they are non-existant.

No they are sealed. That is to say, those records that do exist(FBI never interviewed them).
Of course he did something there, he was on the board. After 9-11 he became a major stockholder of the company, by buying the stocks cheap(51,000 shares[?]), they were cheapened, because WTC was 28%(?) of their clientel.

No kidding.

Then why don't you ask him yourself?

Look, you are loosing site of the original questioned and trying to turn this into a 9-11 debate. It is one thing to question a man's judgement, and it's another thing to outright call a man a liar. And I believe that you're both doing it without actually knowing anything about Alex Jones. Why don't you take ten minutes and take a look at all the stories that he actually has broke(Cola you can take ten minutes and find out about all the stories he makes up, ok? It'll help your agenda to know your enemy).

I definitly find him credible. All these people seek him out... It's not like he's running around picking crazies up off the streets. His radio guest include Congressmen, Senators, Drs, and scientists. He also provides documentation for his claims on his websites.
Now sure he is a little bit on the "wtf?" side of things, and he is a pretty hardcore Christian. But that doesn't make him a liar.

[Dancing Mustard]

these people seek him out... It's not like he's running around picking crazies up off the streets.

Tom-ay-to, Tom-ah-to.

[Juan_Bottom]

these people seek him out... It's not like he's running around picking crazies up off the streets.

Tom-ay-to, Tom-ah-to.

TOM-BER-GERONE

[luns101]

Who gives a shit about Alex Jones?

[Snorri1234]

I'm not sure.

Are you saying that Alex Jones pretended to be two dudes from whatever who pretended to be Inspector Clousau who was actually both Mulder and Scully?

It seems plausible, but still...

[Juan_Bottom]

Didn't all those charactors end up being right in their theories?


Also, who are those two dudes?

[heavycola]

What records are you bleating about? if records are sealed in secret, how do you know what they are? Don't tell me - alex jones says so.

No you idiot, the records of what, if anything, Marvin Bush did are secret. Look them up, they ain't there. I asked you to share them... and if you're so much smarter than I, why don't you prove me wrong?

This is all straight from his own site. If he's a liar then he does a bad job of it.
http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/bu ... y_link.htm
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11 ... le_911.htm

1) marvin Bush was in charge of stratesec
2) He was in charge until the morning of 9/11
3) stratesec was in charge of WTC security

1)

George W. Bush's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines, according to public records. The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for years to the Bush family.

2) He was in charge until the morning of 9/11.--> I can't see the video

The security company, formerly named Securacom and now named Stratesec, is in Sterling, Va.. Its CEO, Barry McDaniel, said the company had a ``completion contract" to handle some of the security at the World Trade Center ``up to the day the buildings fell down."

3)

A company that provided security at New York City's World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport in Washington, D.C., and to United Airlines between 1995 and 2001, was backed by a private Kuwaiti-American investment firm with ties to a brother of President Bush and the Bush family, according to records obtained by the American Reporter.

Barry McDaniel, CEO of the company since January 2002, declines on security grounds to give specific details about work the company did at the World Trade Center. According to McDaniel, the contract was ongoing (a "completion contract"), and "not quite completed when the Center went down." The company designed a system, but - as he points out - that obviously "didn't have anything to do with planes flying into buildings

Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.

When, following the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey began its multi-million-dollar, multiyear revamping of security in and around the Twin Towers and Buildings 4 and 5, Securacom was among numerous contractors hired in the upgrade

Thanks for backing me up, Juan. As the quotes you have kindly found show, Marvin Bush was not in charge of the company; did not work for them on 9/11; and stratesec was one of 'numerous contractors' and was never in charge of security for the WTC.

It's good to see we agree, and that you have seen through jones' lies. Well done man. I'll score that as one for the non-crazies.

PS i've been doing a lot of searching for stuff that isn't there, and it isn't there. It's making me incredibly paranoid. Will let you know how I get on.

[Juan_Bottom]

Thanks for backing me up, Juan. As the quotes you have kindly found show, Marvin Bush was not in charge of the company; did not work for them on 9/11; and stratesec was one of 'numerous contractors' and was never in charge of security for the WTC.

It's good to see we agree, and that you have seen through jones' lies. Well done man. I'll score that as one for the non-crazies.

PS i've been doing a lot of searching for stuff that isn't there, and it isn't there. It's making me incredibly paranoid. Will let you know how I get on.

lol,
I think that you totally missed the point. I just pulled that straight from his web site. If he is such a big liar, then why would he openly contradict now, statements that he made in the past? He isn't hiding anything.

Like it or not, I don't think this whole "Jones is a liar" bit came from you. It sounds to me like you are just repeating something that you heard. You don't really seem to know anything else about him, or his career.

[heavycola]

Thanks for backing me up, Juan. As the quotes you have kindly found show, Marvin Bush was not in charge of the company; did not work for them on 9/11; and stratesec was one of 'numerous contractors' and was never in charge of security for the WTC.

It's good to see we agree, and that you have seen through jones' lies. Well done man. I'll score that as one for the non-crazies.

PS i've been doing a lot of searching for stuff that isn't there, and it isn't there. It's making me incredibly paranoid. Will let you know how I get on.

lol,
I think that you totally missed the point. I just pulled that straight from his web site. If he is such a big liar, then why would he openly contradict now, statements that he made in the past? He isn't hiding anything.

so wait - all he had to do, before he screamed these false, self-serving claims out to a crowd of listeners at the attack site, was check his own website?
What more do we need to know about the guy? he's a fraud. Your defence of him is increasingly pathetic.

I stil haven't found those records that don't exist, though, so i could be wrong.

[browng-08]

Didn't all those charactors end up being right in their theories?


Also, who are those two dudes?

The Hardy Boys.