luns101 wrote:Fruitcake wrote:Nope, not yet the time to jump in. There is more pain yet to come. We are not seeing the results for any of the major operations being released yet. The credit squeeze will not have fed through to the bottom line yet. Builders are only now starting to find their cashflow drying up, shops and large retailers are only now starting to really feel the pinch.
Give it time, the moment to strike will come. The secret now is to wait and hold ones nerve.
So you do eventually plan to "jump in"...it's just a matter of when you think the market has hit the bottom, right? Same comment directed to you, Kwan.
Of course I intend to jump back in....
I shorted bank stocks heavily last year and early this year (I made it obvious in my Banks and Temple of Mammon thread). I took a lump and moved into Gold in the spring of this year, sold out recently (didn’t really do as well as I had hoped) and shorted Platinum (another obvious freefaller if anyone was watching, after all….in it’s most simple terms….what do car exhausts use a lot of in a market where car sales are dropping like a stone in the sky). The rest I invested in UK Gilts AKA UK Govt. undated stocks paying (on the purchase price) around the prevailing rate of interest. I traded in the CDS market as well, buying heavily and then exiting during the summer (CDS= Credit Default Swaps, a measure of how secure a bank is, the higher the price, the worse the perceived situation is in a particular bank...again I referred to this in my Banks and Temple thread earlier this year).
I have exited Gilts within the last few days and have moved nearly all my liquidity into fixed rate income bonds issued by actual Building Societies (as against demutualised operations, something I have always thought a disgrace). I have spread my deposits right across a number of operations to come within the deposit guarantee radar.
I have a series of buy orders in place at certain levels. The first is triggered when the ftse is lower than it is right now (around 4,400 points at time of writing). If I sense the market sentiment is changing and the herd changes direction, then like a small flea (which, after all is what I am when compared to the market whole) I shall jump on the back of the whole movement and ride it for as long as I see fit.