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Flip the switch

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:45 pm

Is it possible to "flip the switch"?

Let's say that there's an imaginary switch in your brain for each thing that you like doing and for everything you do on a daily basis, and a switch for everything you hate doing and the things you constantly avoid. When the switch is on, you like doing it or do it on a daily basis. When the switch is off, you dislike doing it or are constantly avoiding it.

Is it possible to flip the switch? Can you manually flip your switches of your own free will or do the switches only "flip" slowly and over a long period of time on their own?

For clarification, let's say there's an "ice cream" switch in your brain. It's on when you like ice cream, not just when you're eating it. If you all of sudden stop eating your bowl of ice cream to go do something else, the switch is not flipped to off. Nor is it flipped to off if you go a day or so without eating. It's flipped to off when you start saying, "Ice Cream? Ew! No!" or start disliking ice cream.

So, is it possible, in your opinion, to flip the switch?

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Re: Flip the switch

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:49 pm

inb4 homosexuality thread
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby nietzsche on Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:00 pm

it's not that simple. the brain is complicated and there's also a primitive brain all around our body.

somethings you can change, but not only like "im going to turn the ice cream switch off", the approach to stop the craving for ice cream would involve more stuff.
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Postby 2dimes on Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:51 pm

Army of GOD wrote:inb4 homosexuality thread

Not so fast, we're going to have to ask for a judges ruling on this.
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby squishyg on Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:11 pm

inb4 moved to Q&A
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby natty dread on Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:19 pm

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Re: Flip the switch

Postby Lootifer on Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:18 am

yes and no.

somethings like exercise come easily for me; but a productive day at work is sometimes a struggle.
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:37 am

There is no spoon.
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:06 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:There is no spoon.


I think it's a spork.
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby natty dread on Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:24 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:There is no spoon.


I don't think the observations support that conclusion.
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:32 pm

nietzsche wrote:it's not that simple. the brain is complicated and there's also a primitive brain all around our body.


Please tell me more of this primitive brain that somehow invisibly occupies space around my body. I'm very curious about this.

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Re: Flip the switch

Postby natty dread on Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:08 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
nietzsche wrote:it's not that simple. the brain is complicated and there's also a primitive brain all around our body.


Please tell me more of this primitive brain that somehow invisibly occupies space around my body. I'm very curious about this.

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Well of course it's a scientific fact that there's a disembodied brain floating around our bodies. You just don't know about it because big pharma & FDA are conspiring to cover it up...
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:04 pm

natty dread wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
nietzsche wrote:it's not that simple. the brain is complicated and there's also a primitive brain all around our body.


Please tell me more of this primitive brain that somehow invisibly occupies space around my body. I'm very curious about this.

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Well of course it's a scientific fact that there's a disembodied brain floating around our bodies. You just don't know about it because big pharma & FDA are conspiring to cover it up...


This is true. Have you seen the Chemtrails?
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby natty dread on Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:01 pm

I'm taking this new medication that stops me from seeing chemtrails
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:09 pm

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Re: Flip the switch

Postby nietzsche on Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:01 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
nietzsche wrote:it's not that simple. the brain is complicated and there's also a primitive brain all around our body.


Please tell me more of this primitive brain that somehow invisibly occupies space around my body. I'm very curious about this.

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Oh.

Well, it turns out that the brain is a complex and new thingy, but decisions are taken all around our body. There are semi-independent agencies all along, some have more power, others less. I remember I read a whole chapter about it in a book, don't really remember which..
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:43 pm

lshicastr I thought you guys were discussing not just trolling my thread.
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:22 pm

nietzsche wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
nietzsche wrote:it's not that simple. the brain is complicated and there's also a primitive brain all around our body.


Please tell me more of this primitive brain that somehow invisibly occupies space around my body. I'm very curious about this.

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Oh.

Well, it turns out that the brain is a complex and new thingy, but decisions are taken all around our body. There are semi-independent agencies all along, some have more power, others less. I remember I read a whole chapter about it in a book, don't really remember which..


I think you're subscribing to some pseudo-science. Now, I wouldn't call myself an expert, but I have studied human physiology quite a bit as I'm entering into the medical field. First, the brain is most certainly not new, as evidenced by all vertebrates having a brain.

If you're defining decisions as actions, then sure, they happen all the time. But these, I think you'll find, are short reflexes or local processes, e.g. the enteric nervous system coordinating autonomic functions of the digestive tract.

the brain is complicated and there's also a primitive brain all around our body.


To put it simply, there's the central nervous system and the peripheral nervous system. The PNS is miles of nerves and ganglia that serve to feed information to and carry out directions from the CNS. It doesn't do much else.

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Re: Flip the switch

Postby ManBungalow on Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:40 pm

nietzsche wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
nietzsche wrote:it's not that simple. the brain is complicated and there's also a primitive brain all around our body.

Please tell me more of this primitive brain that somehow invisibly occupies space around my body. I'm very curious about this.

Well, it turns out that the brain is a complex and new thingy, but decisions are taken all around our body. There are semi-independent agencies all along, some have more power, others less. I remember I read a whole chapter about it in a book, don't really remember which..

I interpreted your original 'all around the body' statement slightly differently.

Let's say that the body 'knows' it needs sugars, so the brain 'likes' sugary things such as candy. This is, of course, ultimately the brain responding to stimuli from the body, as obvious as that all sounds...

I don't think 'liking candy' is really a conscious decision (IE. you can't tell your brain not to like candy, because your brain knows that the body needs it, or something...), but I've no doubt that you can gradually change your preferences in most capacities.

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Re: Flip the switch

Postby nietzsche on Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:00 pm

ManBungalow wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
nietzsche wrote:it's not that simple. the brain is complicated and there's also a primitive brain all around our body.

Please tell me more of this primitive brain that somehow invisibly occupies space around my body. I'm very curious about this.

Well, it turns out that the brain is a complex and new thingy, but decisions are taken all around our body. There are semi-independent agencies all along, some have more power, others less. I remember I read a whole chapter about it in a book, don't really remember which..

I interpreted your original 'all around the body' statement slightly differently.

Let's say that the body 'knows' it needs sugars, so the brain 'likes' sugary things such as candy. This is, of course, ultimately the brain responding to stimuli from the body, as obvious as that all sounds...

I don't think 'liking candy' is really a conscious decision (IE. you can't tell your brain not to like candy, because your brain knows that the body needs it, or something...), but I've no doubt that you can gradually change your preferences in most capacities.

etc.


Well, what I read and makes sense is what now is the human body has been evolving for some time now, and stuff that works don't just get overriden and rewired in the new organ, the brain, but they are used. So a lot happens around the solar plexus, but other stuff also happens for instance in the muscles, which are part of the whole memory, and in the same manner there are many other "agencies" like that.

I don't remember if I read there about the gut-brain axis, but lately I've encountered too much info on the interconnection of the gut and the brain, and how some are starting to think of it as a whole single system because it's so interdependent. I don't know if this has been known long ago and just now is becoming mainstream.

I'm no expert in these topics and from whom i read the first part it was science philosophers and not medical doctors.
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Re: Flip the switch

Postby natty dread on Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:05 pm

nietzsche wrote:I don't remember if I read there about the gut-brain axis, but lately I've encountered too much info on the interconnection of the gut and the brain, and how some are starting to think of it as a whole single system because it's so interdependent.


I drink a bottle of whiskey or eat a bucket of drugs, it goes in my gut, and whammo! My brain is all messed up. They must be connected!

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Re: Flip the switch

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:15 pm

Wait, are you saying people think we have a second brain in our gut?
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