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Re: Should internet speech be curtailed?

Postby xeno on Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:40 am

What does it matter to me now? The internet desensitized me to the world at a very early age so my soul has already been corrupted.
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Re: Should internet speech be curtailed?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:30 am

xeno wrote:What does it matter to me now? The internet desensitized me to the world at a very early age so my soul has already been corrupted.


I think that's the marijuana talking.
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Re: Should internet speech be curtailed?

Postby xeno on Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:55 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
xeno wrote:What does it matter to me now? The internet desensitized me to the world at a very early age so my soul has already been corrupted.


I think that's the marijuana talking.

If im talking at all just assume its marijuana induced
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Re: Should internet speech be curtailed?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:15 am

Hey, for you what created the desensitization first? The Internet or marijuana? :P
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Re: Should internet speech be curtailed?

Postby xeno on Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:35 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:Hey, for you what created the desensitization first? The Internet or marijuana? :P

Definately the internet. The weed has just added to how depraved I am
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Re: Should internet speech be curtailed?

Postby xeno on Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:37 am

Shit, when I joined this hellhole I was like 14 or 15
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Re: Should internet speech be curtailed?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:13 pm

Army of GOD wrote:The beauty of the internet is that, as long as someone isn't going Clockwork Orange on your ass and forcing your eyes to stare at a computer screen, is that if you don't like something, you don't have to read it. It's amazing though how many opinions you'll find on here, regardless if they're just a troll or not.


This is true about opinions, but when information is put forward that ought to be fact... there should be some better ways to distinguish fact from fiction or opinion.
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Re: Should internet speech be curtailed?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:17 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
Woodruff wrote: Just as with bullying "in person".


That's the thing. I don't think it's as obvious to me as to how much bullying is too much. I feel like, as long as there isn't an end game (a suicide or something) of some sort, it's just a vague spectrum of bullying intensity.


Seeing it in the school all the time, I don't agree at all that it's a vague spectrum of bullying intensity. There are specific actions that are a part of "the bullying concept", if you will, that take the bullying to a level where active action against the bullies needs to be taken.

I gotta disagree here.

Let me give you an example from a specific bullying curriculum.

The scenario given was one boy (weaker, younger, less popular) was constantly asking to join a basketball game. Every day, he gets told "no". In a bit, it escalates and every day, the kid is derided, perhaps even physically pushed, but not necessarily.

This was given as an example of bullying by the bigger kid because it happened repeatedly.


HOWEVER, let's change the context just slightly. Instead of it being a boy wanting to join a game, maybe its a boy asking for a date or kiss from a girl. OR... maybe its even a homosexual boy asking another boy not known as a homosexual.

The thing is, most people would consider the "asker" to be something of a bully, to be causing harm in the second situation. Yet, objectively the situations are pretty much the same.
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Re: Should internet speech be curtailed?

Postby Symmetry on Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:27 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
Woodruff wrote: Just as with bullying "in person".


That's the thing. I don't think it's as obvious to me as to how much bullying is too much. I feel like, as long as there isn't an end game (a suicide or something) of some sort, it's just a vague spectrum of bullying intensity.


Seeing it in the school all the time, I don't agree at all that it's a vague spectrum of bullying intensity. There are specific actions that are a part of "the bullying concept", if you will, that take the bullying to a level where active action against the bullies needs to be taken.

I gotta disagree here.

Let me give you an example from a specific bullying curriculum.

The scenario given was one boy (weaker, younger, less popular) was constantly asking to join a basketball game. Every day, he gets told "no". In a bit, it escalates and every day, the kid is derided, perhaps even physically pushed, but not necessarily.

This was given as an example of bullying by the bigger kid because it happened repeatedly.


HOWEVER, let's change the context just slightly. Instead of it being a boy wanting to join a game, maybe its a boy asking for a date or kiss from a girl. OR... maybe its even a homosexual boy asking another boy not known as a homosexual.

The thing is, most people would consider the "asker" to be something of a bully, to be causing harm in the second situation. Yet, objectively the situations are pretty much the same.


If they were the same, you wouldn't have had to make the change.
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Re: Should internet speech be curtailed?

Postby Woodruff on Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:06 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
Woodruff wrote: Just as with bullying "in person".


That's the thing. I don't think it's as obvious to me as to how much bullying is too much. I feel like, as long as there isn't an end game (a suicide or something) of some sort, it's just a vague spectrum of bullying intensity.


Seeing it in the school all the time, I don't agree at all that it's a vague spectrum of bullying intensity. There are specific actions that are a part of "the bullying concept", if you will, that take the bullying to a level where active action against the bullies needs to be taken.

I gotta disagree here.

Let me give you an example from a specific bullying curriculum.

The scenario given was one boy (weaker, younger, less popular) was constantly asking to join a basketball game. Every day, he gets told "no". In a bit, it escalates and every day, the kid is derided, perhaps even physically pushed, but not necessarily.

This was given as an example of bullying by the bigger kid because it happened repeatedly.

HOWEVER, let's change the context just slightly. Instead of it being a boy wanting to join a game, maybe its a boy asking for a date or kiss from a girl. OR... maybe its even a homosexual boy asking another boy not known as a homosexual.

The thing is, most people would consider the "asker" to be something of a bully, to be causing harm in the second situation. Yet, objectively the situations are pretty much the same.


None of that changes the reality of my point in any way. You are talking about very low-level, very innocuous circumstances, whereas I am not. In addition, your examples AREN'T "objectively pretty much the same".
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