Huma Abedin (Weinning)

[yang guize]

i don't know if the point has already been disproved but someone said that the muslim brotherhood are terrorist. this is obviously not true. they are a government with views that you do not like.
but obviously anything with 'muslim' in the name is a branch of al qaeda from your perspective LOL

[GreecePwns]

And they get funding from the Saudi royalty. I thought conservatives liked the Saudi royalty?

[Woodruff]

And they get funding from the Saudi royalty. I thought conservatives liked the Saudi royalty?

f*ck Saudi Arabia!!!!

(Thanks for the opening.)

[Night Strike]

Dumbest NS conspiracy thread ever. You'd think he'd stop after one of the active conspirators turned out to have been dead for two decades.

You might think that he would stop after the former Republican Presidential candidate for President called BS.

You might think that he would stop when the leader of the Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives called it BS.

Unfortunately, the woman accused is Muslim.

NS will never be happy. There is literally nothing that could persuade him to stop being suspicious of Jews Muslims.

Symmetry, you have just proven how you're completely delusional and should stay out of any thread that has to do with American politics or policies:

I didn't even start this thread.

I clearly stated that I made a mistake saying the people were "active members".

McCain has always been wrong about the Muslim Brotherhood, so why would he automatically be correct here?

Boehner is easy to succumb to pressure, so as soon as CAIR cried about Bachmann, he had to say something to placate them.

I don't care if she is a Muslim or not, nor am I even suspicious of her if she is a Muslim.

[Woodruff]

Boehner is easy to succumb to pressure, so as soon as CAIR cried about Bachmann, he had to say something to placate them.

I don't believe this is true at all. From everything I've seen of Boehner, he's a career politician who very much views the world through "Republicans Versus Democrats" goggles, thus his "most important thing on our plate is ensuring Obama does not get re-elected".

[comic boy]

Dumbest NS conspiracy thread ever. You'd think he'd stop after one of the active conspirators turned out to have been dead for two decades.

You might think that he would stop after the former Republican Presidential candidate for President called BS.

You might think that he would stop when the leader of the Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives called it BS.

Unfortunately, the woman accused is Muslim.

NS will never be happy. There is literally nothing that could persuade him to stop being suspicious of Jews Muslims.

Symmetry, you have just proven how you're completely delusional and should stay out of any thread that has to do with American politics or policies:

I didn't even start this thread.

I clearly stated that I made a mistake saying the people were "active members".

McCain has always been wrong about the Muslim Brotherhood, so why would he automatically be correct here?

Boehner is easy to succumb to pressure, so as soon as CAIR cried about Bachmann, he had to say something to placate them.

I don't care if she is a Muslim or not, nor am I even suspicious of her if she is a Muslim.

Bachmann cares though , she cares very much , that why an unbiased rational observer would look at her accusations very carefully before repeating them.

[Symmetry]

Dumbest NS conspiracy thread ever. You'd think he'd stop after one of the active conspirators turned out to have been dead for two decades.

You might think that he would stop after the former Republican Presidential candidate for President called BS.

You might think that he would stop when the leader of the Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives called it BS.

Unfortunately, the woman accused is Muslim.

NS will never be happy. There is literally nothing that could persuade him to stop being suspicious of Jews Muslims.

Symmetry, you have just proven how you're completely delusional and should stay out of any thread that has to do with American politics or policies:

I didn't even start this thread.

I clearly stated that I made a mistake saying the people were "active members".

McCain has always been wrong about the Muslim Brotherhood, so why would he automatically be correct here?

Boehner is easy to succumb to pressure, so as soon as CAIR cried about Bachmann, he had to say something to placate them.

I don't care if she is a Muslim or not, nor am I even suspicious of her if she is a Muslim.

And yet you're trotting out this meaningless McCarthyite nonsense, post after post. Indeed you've added Boehner and McCain to the conspiracy theory now as unwitting patsies.

And apparently you think that I'm delusional for pointing out your mistakes. Am I now also a part of your great anti-American conspiracy?

[Phatscotty]

Dumbest NS conspiracy thread ever.

Except....it's not NS's thread. Now, who were you calling "dumb"?




Don't think I forgot about your dodging on page 2, hypocrite!

[Symmetry]

Dumbest NS conspiracy thread ever.

Except....it's not NS's thread. Now, who were you calling "dumb"?

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Don't think I forgot about your dodging on page 2, hypocrite!

I stand corrected, this is the dumbest NS and Scotty conspiracy thread ever.

[jonesthecurl]

Are they part of a conspiracy?
I think we should know.

[Symmetry]

Are they part of a conspiracy?
I think we should know.

I have yet to see either of their long form birth certificates, and I suspect that both have been involved with organisations complicit in torture and the overthrow of democratically elected governments.

What are they hiding?

I don't even believe that "Night Strike" is his real name.

[Phatscotty]

Minnesota is ground zero for this issue.

Michelle Bachmann wrote some letters to the inspector generals, and Keith Ellison (Muslim Congressman - Minnesota) has called her out for it. After a couple of extensive interviews, the only thing he has against her it that she should have sent the letter asking questions to a separate, less public branch of gov't, and the examples he gives are the CIA, the FBI, the Treasury etc...Michelle Bachmann pointed out in rebuttal that every example he gave was a branch of government the Executive branch controls (Obama). Also, Ellison does not like what she seems to be insinuating. He does admit that no specific accusations have been made.

So that's where we are sitting right now. The questions are going to have to be answered though. Basically all that has happened is the left is stomping their feet loudly, ya know the usual cries about sensitivity being more important than national security, racism, Islamophobia etc etc etc

[Symmetry]

Minnesota is ground zero for this issue.

Michelle Bachmann wrote some letters to the inspector generals, and Keith Ellison (Muslim Congressman - Minnesota) has called her out for it. After a couple of extensive interviews, the only thing he has against her it that she should have sent the letter asking questions to a separate, less public branch of gov't, and the examples he gives are the CIA, the FBI, the Treasury etc...Michelle Bachmann pointed out in rebuttal that every example he gave was a branch of government the Executive branch controls (Obama). Also, Ellison does not like what she seems to be insinuating. He does admit that no specific accusations have been made.

So that's where we are sitting right now. The questions are going to have to be answered though. Basically all that has happened is the left is stomping their feet loudly, ya know the usual cries about sensitivity being more important than national security, racism, Islamophobia etc etc etc

Sounds like a conspiracy theory. If the CIA, FBI, Treasury, Secretary of State, former Repub presidential candidate McCain, and Leader Boehner all say she's good, but Bachmann says she's some kind of plant, then you've got to be looking at the crazy elephant in the room.

[Phatscotty]

Minnesota is ground zero for this issue.

Michelle Bachmann wrote some letters to the inspector generals, and Keith Ellison (Muslim Congressman - Minnesota) has called her out for it. After a couple of extensive interviews, the only thing he has against her it that she should have sent the letter asking questions to a separate, less public branch of gov't, and the examples he gives are the CIA, the FBI, the Treasury etc...Michelle Bachmann pointed out in rebuttal that every example he gave was a branch of government the Executive branch controls (Obama). Also, Ellison does not like what she seems to be insinuating. He does admit that no specific accusations have been made.

So that's where we are sitting right now. The questions are going to have to be answered though. Basically all that has happened is the left is stomping their feet loudly, ya know the usual cries about sensitivity being more important than national security, racism, Islamophobia etc etc etc

Sounds like a conspiracy theory. If the CIA, FBI, Treasury, Secretary of State, former Repub presidential candidate McCain, and Leader Boehner all say she's good, but Bachmann says she's some kind of plant, then you've got to be looking at the crazy elephant in the room.

Or....maybe....some people (Mccain) are recognizing that the Muslim Brotherhood is going to be a major player in the future and want to keep good with them, and some people (Bachmann) are recognizing the strong likelihood that the Muslim Brotherhood is deeply infested with Al-Qada

Your mind goes to crazy places

[Woodruff]

So that's where we are sitting right now. The questions are going to have to be answered though. Basically all that has happened is the left is stomping their feet loudly, ya know the usual cries about sensitivity being more important than national security, racism, Islamophobia etc etc etc

I don't believe anyone here has implied that sensitivity is more important than national security, and I find it highly unlikely that any liberals anywhere have done so. I'd call you a liar, but that just seems to be a given anymore.

[Symmetry]

As NS and Scotty try to defend their weird conspiracy thread, and as it engulfs pretty much any poster who disagrees with their insanity, and the major leaders of both the Republican and Democrat parties in the US if they disagree with Michelle Bachmann, one has to wonder how much of the Kool-Aid NS and Scotty have been drinking in this witch-hunt.

Even pointing out that one of the active members of NS's active members of the Muslim Brotherhood has been dead for around 20 years merely caused a break in stride for NS. For Scotty, of course, it's back tp the usual mudslinging against Muslims. He demands that we prove he's wrong, rather than justify his Islamophobia.

[BigBallinStalin]

So, I skimmed through Bachmann's pdf (http://www.sctimes.com/assets/pdf/DR192062714.PDF)...

She's asking for an investigation on why Huma Abedin was given "x-amount" of security clearance--given that some members of her family have (in)direct ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Her father, Prof. Syed Abedin (dead for 20 years), founded the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, and that institute received "active support" by some big shot of the Muslim Arab League, which "has a longtime history of being closely aligned... with the Muslim Brotherhood" (MB).

Huma's father, mother, and brother are "connected to MB operatives and/or organizations."
(so is the CIA and other US intelligence agencies)

Basically, 'Huma should be disqualified because of her family's background."


Then, there's the bit about the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), which is a group of Muslim countries, which seek to "to impose shariah worldwide." Bush and Obama send envoys there to hear them out (I guess). The OIC points out Islamaphobia too.

Then they "meet with known subversive front groups which are pro-shariah and seek to subvert governments/societies." (The CIA and more generally the US does this too--covertly and explicitly).

Then, there's talk of the executive branch holding talks with MB front organizations within the US.

Conclusion, "uh, what's going on here?"

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To me, it seems that given the history of the US in subverting groups and changing unfavorable governments, the US is farming plants or converting people within MB and MB-related circles to their way of seeing things. Having someone like Huma in inner US circles can be very useful in implementing a pro-US policy abroad.

Confusion ensues because the US is a leviathan with many heads which don't constantly update each other with their own objectives and means.

I'd love for the US to become more transparent about this, but it won't because of issues with "national security" or "national interests." We might find out the truth if the Freedom of Information Act is used within 30 years, but that's unlikely too because the related bureaucracies fight viciously to prevent such information from being released.


The allegation that the US government or the American society is being subverted by nefarious groups connected to the MB seems a bit far off.