Obama and college

[Phatscotty]

It's pretty obvious that you dislike Obama, and you're willing to use dog whistle politics on some points, but seriously? The guy is pretty impressive. Went to Harvard Law, became president of Harvard law review. Taught law at Chicago, published two books. Served as senator.

Does any of this jar for you?

Well, he went to Harvard ... somehow only a liberal would find that impressive.

You really don't find that impressive?

Not when he didn't EARN it and only got accepted because of the color of his skin!!!!! WOW HOW IMPRESSIVE!!!! He didn't even show up for class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you guys make me sick

He was only accepted because he's black? He didn't even show up for class? And we make you sick?

Scotty is 100% correct on this one. I've seen the application forms.

Generally, there is a question asking "what race are you?". Also, there was a funny moment I think on this season of "Weeds" where Shane got rejected for college and turned down for student aid, but then he cleverly changed his application to say he was from a different country and race, upon which the Counselor said "welcome to College!".

Harvard is affirmative action all the way. As to your specific question of whether or not Obama was admitted because he earned it, or because of the color of his skin......I agree with Haggis 100% as well, I think we both have the same questions here. It would be nice to find out. Unfortunately, Obama has SEALED his college records....so, we will just have to take the Ivy League elite Harvard lawyer with Chicago style politics with political ambitions word for it


http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/ ... ve-action/

When the United States Supreme Court heard the first case challenging affirmative action in higher education in 1978, Harvard defended the use of race in admissions decisions.

Now, as the Court takes up the issue again more than 30 years later, Harvard is likely to lobby the Court in favor of affirmative action once again, according to University General Counsel Robert W. Iuliano ’83.

Oh yeah, and there is Obama's obsession with Critical Race Theory while he was at Harvard, but I am quite sure that is in no way connected whatsoever to a belief in affirmative action, or that he was a beneficiary of privileges and advanced placements based solely on the color of his skin.

[heavycola]

i miss tzor

[patrickaa317]

If FactCheck and Snopes aren't the only two fact-checkers out there (they're the only two that come immediately to mind for me, but that doesn't mean anything), they're certainly two of the largest and most-often-used.

Fox News is by far the most watched 24 hour news channel, they claim to be fair and balanced; if I used them as a reference would you be ok with it?

[Woodruff]

If FactCheck and Snopes aren't the only two fact-checkers out there (they're the only two that come immediately to mind for me, but that doesn't mean anything), they're certainly two of the largest and most-often-used.

Fox News is by far the most watched 24 hour news channel, they claim to be fair and balanced; if I used them as a reference would you be ok with it?

Fox News doesn't even generally try to actually BE fair and balanced, however (despite their claim). That said, it depends entirely on the reference. There have been things sourced to Fox News that I've accepted, because they were written well and fact-based. It's just unfortunately not typical of them, in my experience.

[Symmetry]

If FactCheck and Snopes aren't the only two fact-checkers out there (they're the only two that come immediately to mind for me, but that doesn't mean anything), they're certainly two of the largest and most-often-used.

Fox News is by far the most watched 24 hour news channel, they claim to be fair and balanced; if I used them as a reference would you be ok with it?

Hmm, I did a bit of research and Fox seems to be pulling about 17 million cable subscribers.

BBC News is posting an audience of around 239 million worldwide.

[tzor]

Just because they have girls doesn't make it a bad college.

Point of fact: At the time Obama and I went to college, RPI had a 20% female student population, much to the annoyance of next door Russel Sage College where the girls were still trying to get their "MRS" degree to an RPI Engineer. Today it's pretty close to 50%.

[tzor]

It's "nice." Mind you I went to Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute back when George M Lowe was president. So you know, Harvard is nice, but it's no M.I.T. (or R.P.I.) Ivy league colleges are way overrated.

Ah, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, ranked 144 in the Times Higher Education guide, right between Nottingham and Newcastle.
I'm sure it's some kind of massive conspiracy that makes it not rank higher than Harvard(#2) or MIT(#7).

Is that current or is that the old early 1980's rankings?

[tzor]

i miss tzor

Well keep aiming for me ... one of these days you might just hit me.