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Postby Nobunaga on Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:02 pm

... After watching an hour of this debate, I gotta say, I'd rather see this guy in charge than Obama.

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Re: Biden

Postby patrickaa317 on Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:10 pm

Nobunaga wrote:... After watching an hour of this debate, I gotta say, I'd rather see this guy in charge than Obama.

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I say that after watching an hour of anything.
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Re: Biden

Postby Nobunaga on Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:12 pm

... Ryan's bright, but he's letting Biden push him around. Not very appealing.

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Re: Biden

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:25 pm

I prefer Biden over Obama too. I have to side with the non-Marxist almost everytime.

However, about Biden being tough or whatever, Ryan, IMO, is not responding all the time, because Biden is just bullying BS.
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Re: Biden

Postby Woodruff on Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:27 pm

Phatscotty wrote:I prefer Biden over Obama too. I have to side with the non-Marxist almost everytime.


Why can't you get it through your head that Obama is not remotely a Marxist? I found Phatscotty!:
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Phatscotty wrote:Ryan gets credit in my book for not falling into traps


It's like you're just so scared to criticize Romney/Ryan. Sad, really.
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Re: Biden

Postby Mr_Adams on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:01 pm

Woodruff wrote:It's like you're just so scared to criticize Romney/Ryan. Sad, really.



Gotta agree with you, hear. I don't understand how somebody goes from supporting Ron Paul to supporting these schmucks on either side. I'm always told that I'm wasting my vote if I vote Gary Johnson, but I have to wonder, is this a wasted vote any more than voting for the lesser of two very similar evils? As soon as you let yourself be honest about both parties, and approach the discussion with no red/blue preconceptions, all the mainstream politicians become very ugly shades of purple.
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Re: Biden

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:07 pm

Mr_Adams wrote:
Woodruff wrote:It's like you're just so scared to criticize Romney/Ryan. Sad, really.



Gotta agree with you, hear. I don't understand how somebody goes from supporting Ron Paul to supporting these schmucks on either side. I'm always told that I'm wasting my vote if I vote Gary Johnson, but I have to wonder, is this a wasted vote any more than voting for the lesser of two very similar evils? As soon as you let yourself be honest about both parties, and approach the discussion with no red/blue preconceptions, all the mainstream politicians become very ugly shades of purple.


I'm opposing Obama/Biden.

I have never told anyone voting 3rd party that it's a wasted vote. Mostly because I have been a 3rd party voter my whole life with very, VERY few exceptions.

I did whatever I could to help Ron Paul get the platform to win. We got the job done here in Minnesota. We did our part. However, in the end, Romney won the platform.

So now we have a choice between Romney and Obama. I'm sorry, but I think the most important thing is to get Obama out of the White House. Is that really so hard to understand?

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Re: Biden

Postby Mr_Adams on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:12 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:
Woodruff wrote:It's like you're just so scared to criticize Romney/Ryan. Sad, really.



Gotta agree with you, hear. I don't understand how somebody goes from supporting Ron Paul to supporting these schmucks on either side. I'm always told that I'm wasting my vote if I vote Gary Johnson, but I have to wonder, is this a wasted vote any more than voting for the lesser of two very similar evils? As soon as you let yourself be honest about both parties, and approach the discussion with no red/blue preconceptions, all the mainstream politicians become very ugly shades of purple.


I'm opposing Obama/Biden. Sue me

I have never told anyone voting 3rd party that it's a wasted vote. Mostly because I have been a 3rd party voter my whole life with very, VERY few exceptions.

I did whatever I could to help Ron Paul get the platform to win. We got the job done here in Minnesota. We did our part. However, in the end, Romney won the platform.

So now we have a choice between Romney and Obama. I'm sorry, but I think the most important thing is to get Obama out of the White House. Is that really so hard to understand?


Didn't say YOU told me not to vote 3rd party. But after that debate, with the exception of rhetorical skill, can you honestly say there was a huge difference between the two? Half the time, it was a game of he said she said, arguing over fake numbers and who made what claim with no way to actually settle anything.
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Re: Biden

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:16 pm

Anyone else notice how all the Facebooker Conservatives are criticizing Biden for bullying, yet they also loved it when Romney did most of the same stuff?

We knew Biden was gonna bring it. I lost $11 to Katherine because I bet that at some point he would take off his shirt. But I'm not disappointed, he was great. Like Maher said, it was like watching an old man thrashing a child on tv. Biden showed us that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts.
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Re: Biden

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:18 pm

Mr_Adams wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:
Woodruff wrote:It's like you're just so scared to criticize Romney/Ryan. Sad, really.



Gotta agree with you, hear. I don't understand how somebody goes from supporting Ron Paul to supporting these schmucks on either side. I'm always told that I'm wasting my vote if I vote Gary Johnson, but I have to wonder, is this a wasted vote any more than voting for the lesser of two very similar evils? As soon as you let yourself be honest about both parties, and approach the discussion with no red/blue preconceptions, all the mainstream politicians become very ugly shades of purple.


I'm opposing Obama/Biden. Sue me

I have never told anyone voting 3rd party that it's a wasted vote. Mostly because I have been a 3rd party voter my whole life with very, VERY few exceptions.

I did whatever I could to help Ron Paul get the platform to win. We got the job done here in Minnesota. We did our part. However, in the end, Romney won the platform.

So now we have a choice between Romney and Obama. I'm sorry, but I think the most important thing is to get Obama out of the White House. Is that really so hard to understand?


Didn't say YOU told me not to vote 3rd party. But after that debate, with the exception of rhetorical skill, can you honestly say there was a huge difference between the two? Half the time, it was a game of he said she said, arguing over fake numbers and who made what claim with no way to actually settle anything.


I didn't mean to imply that. mostly it was just a line to show I understand exactly what you meant

I understand your point. I also understand that the candidates understand what kind of audience they are talking to and trying to connect with, which arguments will score points and with less consideration for how accurate or pertinent the issue itself is. The low information fodder is in play because if you don't target the low information voters, you lose.

How will you feel if Obama is president for the next 4 years? Do you have any comment about what I think the most important thing is?
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Re: Biden

Postby patrickaa317 on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:18 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
We knew Biden was gonna bring it. I lost $11 to Katherine because I bet that at some point he would take off his shirt.


:lol: :lol:

I'm glad he didn't!
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Re: Biden

Postby Mr_Adams on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:22 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
How will you feel if Obama is president for the next 4 years? Do you have any comment about what I think the most important thing is?


I just don't see why anybody thinks Romeny will be so different from Obama. for example, Romney talked a lot about repealing Obama care in the primaries. Now it's become repeal and replace. How long until it's just "tweek" or "fix" Obamacare? Which ISSUES are most important to you, Scotty? Is Romney significantly, or even ANY, different on these issues?
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Re: Biden

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:27 pm

Mr_Adams wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
How will you feel if Obama is president for the next 4 years? Do you have any comment about what I think the most important thing is?


I just don't see why anybody thinks Romeny will be so different from Obama. for example, Romney talked a lot about repealing Obama care in the primaries. Now it's become repeal and replace. How long until it's just "tweek" or "fix" Obamacare? Which ISSUES are most important to you, Scotty? Is Romney significantly, or even ANY, different on these issues?


I am not talking at all about difference. If I have to state something, yes, I am aware that OBama and Romney have many similiarites. I've said so many times in the past but there ya go.

I was asking you about Obama, and if I ask again that will make 3 times and I will probably give up on it. If you honestly believe that Romney is not even 5% or 13% or 24% or even 1% better than Obama, then fine. That is your opinion. I will find that hard to believe though.

What about religious liberty? You don't think Romney has a deeper understanding and respect than Obama?

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Re: Biden

Postby kentington on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:33 pm

Mr_Adams wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
How will you feel if Obama is president for the next 4 years? Do you have any comment about what I think the most important thing is?


I just don't see why anybody thinks Romeny will be so different from Obama. for example, Romney talked a lot about repealing Obama care in the primaries. Now it's become repeal and replace. How long until it's just "tweek" or "fix" Obamacare? Which ISSUES are most important to you, Scotty? Is Romney significantly, or even ANY, different on these issues?


I think I will be annoyed when either of them win.

I think Biden came across as rude, if I was on the line about voting that would have affected me. I hate it when people don't let others finish their argument. I want to hear what they say and use my brain not scoffing and laughing in the back ground. Ever hear of letting someone hang themself? If they are really spouting nonsense, then let it happen.

Ryan came across as weak to me. That is what Biden wanted and it happened. How should someone behave in a debate when being mocked and interrupted? I think once someone gets the upper hand in a debate (even if it has nothing to do with issues) they come across as the winner.

Also, debates suck, they never actually talk about the issues in a real way or divulge more info about policies they want to happen. They would lose because debates are about promoting the best at BS.
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Re: Biden

Postby Army of GOD on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:42 pm

Thursday night football + playoof baseball >>>> anything politics-related
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Re: Biden

Postby squishyg on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:48 pm

I kept waiting for Biden to slap Ryan and shout "Woooooo"!
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Re: Biden

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:50 pm

squishyg wrote:I kept waiting for Biden to slap Ryan and shout "Woooooo"!


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Re: Biden

Postby squishyg on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:57 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
squishyg wrote:I kept waiting for Biden to slap Ryan and shout "Woooooo"!


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Re: Biden

Postby Woodruff on Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:42 am

Mr_Adams wrote:
Woodruff wrote:It's like you're just so scared to criticize Romney/Ryan. Sad, really.


Gotta agree with you, hear. I don't understand how somebody goes from supporting Ron Paul to supporting these schmucks on either side. I'm always told that I'm wasting my vote if I vote Gary Johnson, but I have to wonder, is this a wasted vote any more than voting for the lesser of two very similar evils? As soon as you let yourself be honest about both parties, and approach the discussion with no red/blue preconceptions, all the mainstream politicians become very ugly shades of purple.


Indeed they do.
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Re: Biden

Postby Woodruff on Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:42 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:
Woodruff wrote:It's like you're just so scared to criticize Romney/Ryan. Sad, really.



Gotta agree with you, hear. I don't understand how somebody goes from supporting Ron Paul to supporting these schmucks on either side. I'm always told that I'm wasting my vote if I vote Gary Johnson, but I have to wonder, is this a wasted vote any more than voting for the lesser of two very similar evils? As soon as you let yourself be honest about both parties, and approach the discussion with no red/blue preconceptions, all the mainstream politicians become very ugly shades of purple.


I'm opposing Obama/Biden.

I have never told anyone voting 3rd party that it's a wasted vote. Mostly because I have been a 3rd party voter my whole life with very, VERY few exceptions.

I did whatever I could to help Ron Paul get the platform to win. We got the job done here in Minnesota. We did our part. However, in the end, Romney won the platform.

So now we have a choice between Romney and Obama. I'm sorry, but I think the most important thing is to get Obama out of the White House. Is that really so hard to understand?

My first choice is not running. I am settling for my 4th choice


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Re: Biden

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:19 pm

Fresh polls are showing that 68% of woman had a favorable response to Paul Ryan, and found him "nice, charming, and well informed". 14% had no opinion, and only 16% of women had a favorable response to Biden. Some of the words women used when describing Biden's performance were "Creepy, childish, and old".

Biden already embarrasses me as the vice president of America, and now he has embarrassed the entire male gender as well
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Re: Biden

Postby Woodruff on Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:43 pm

Phatscotty wrote:Fresh polls are showing that 68% of woman had a favorable response to Paul Ryan, and found him "nice, charming, and well informed". 14% had no opinion, and only 16% of women had a favorable response to Biden. Some of the words women used when describing Biden's performance were "Creepy, childish, and old".

Biden already embarrasses me as the vice president of America, and now he has embarrassed the entire male gender as well


If Ryan had a stroke and shit his pants on stage, you would hail it as a rare glimpse into the vulnerable, sensitive soul of Paul Ryan.
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