Australia's Migrants

[Symmetry]

The bigger issue (for some Aussies) is they come here and expect us to accept their culture rather than assimilate into ours.

This...

Nobody likes this kind of migrants.

Not liking migrants because of their ethnic background or their religion has always been an issue for some people. That doesn't mean noboby likes people who want to be accepted.

You are talking about Muslims or about Westerners... Westerners in the last century prove that they are open for migrants from different ethnic background or religion. The same can not be said for the Muslims. They prove that they are radicals. Even locations which had significant percentage of people from nonMuslim religion are now close to all Muslim locations. Take middle east for example, it had around one quarter nonMuslims a century ago, not it has below 5%.

I'd say it's a false dichotomy on TeeGee's part that you're agreeing with. You can keep your culture and assimilate.

No, what he said is the same as what I said, nobody likes migrants that want to transform their new homeland into the unsuccessful one that they already left.
If you weren't Islamic radical you would have understand that, but you are, and there are limitations in you understanding. No worry I will help out and tell it in the only language you do understand. Every single Islamist(regarding if he is Symmetric or not) on European soil will be transformed into soup eventually, so you can leave Europe before that happens

I hope that what you've said isn't what TeeGee said, for TeeGee's sake. You seem to be projecting your fears on to others, mate.

[GoranZ]

I hope that what you've said isn't what TeeGee said, for TeeGee's sake. You seem to be projecting your fears on to others, mate.

I have no fears from Islamists, you are like dogs, you bark a lot but once someone shows no fear you die from running

[Symmetry]

I hope that what you've said isn't what TeeGee said, for TeeGee's sake. You seem to be projecting your fears on to others, mate.

I have no fears from Islamists, you are like dogs, you bark a lot but once someone shows no fear you die from running

*Adds dogs to list of things Goran is clueless about*

[BoganGod]

I hope that what you've said isn't what TeeGee said, for TeeGee's sake. You seem to be projecting your fears on to others, mate.

I have no fears from Islamists, you are like dogs, you bark a lot but once someone shows no fear you die from running

Running around in dizzy little circles barking even louder trying to sniff their own shitty arses for a familiar smell.

The pinstriped queer risen one.

[GoranZ]

I hope that what you've said isn't what TeeGee said, for TeeGee's sake. You seem to be projecting your fears on to others, mate.

I have no fears from Islamists, you are like dogs, you bark a lot but once someone shows no fear you die from running

*Adds dogs to list of things Goran is clueless about*

I dont think that you are qualified for anything, especially for adding things to a list

[Symmetry]

I hope that what you've said isn't what TeeGee said, for TeeGee's sake. You seem to be projecting your fears on to others, mate.

I have no fears from Islamists, you are like dogs, you bark a lot but once someone shows no fear you die from running

*Adds dogs to list of things Goran is clueless about*

I dont think that you are qualified for anything, especially for adding things to a list

*Adds list making to things Goran is clueless about*

[BoganGod]

So we have a bigoted homosexual crusader/white knight(No I'm not suggesting DSOIV is gay, just that he/she/zi/hir is prone to promoting homosexuality and braying that anything that is not homosexuality is bigotry), stalking a slav genius/nationalist who is not bigot just has the political view that militant islam is fundamentally incompatible with western/european values and society. Since the noble GoranZ has a view that does not fit within DSOIV's world view, poor Goranz is doomed to have the incoherent and increasingly hysterical SJW stalking him and accusing him of thought crimes. Not content with stalking his betters, the deplorable DSOIV gets threads locked......... What an A class hypocrite.

[PLAYER57832]

The bigger issue (for some Aussies) is they come here and expect us to accept their culture rather than assimilate into ours.

This...

Nobody likes this kind of migrants.

Not liking migrants because of their ethnic background or their religion has always been an issue for some people. That doesn't mean noboby likes people who want to be accepted.

You are talking about Muslims or about Westerners... Westerners in the last century prove that they are open for migrants from different ethnic background or religion. The same can not be said for the Muslims. They prove that they are radicals. Even locations which had significant percentage of people from nonMuslim religion are now close to all Muslim locations. Take middle east for example, it had around one quarter nonMuslims a century ago, not it has below 5%.

Hmmm.. so are you advocating a new Crusades or implying it did not occur?

and I guess you are saying that southern and western Africa, etc. ... were just inherently Christian?

[Bernie Sanders]

We can only hope we can get rid of these illegal European blight out of Australia. This white plague that has come to our Homeland has destroyed the environment and destroyed our culture.

[Symmetry]

So we have a bigoted homosexual crusader/white knight(No I'm not suggesting DSOIV is gay, just that he/she/zi/hir is prone to promoting homosexuality and braying that anything that is not homosexuality is bigotry), stalking a slav genius/nationalist who is not bigot just has the political view that militant islam is fundamentally incompatible with western/european values and society. Since the noble GoranZ has a view that does not fit within DSOIV's world view, poor Goranz is doomed to have the incoherent and increasingly hysterical SJW stalking him and accusing him of thought crimes. Not content with stalking his betters, the deplorable DSOIV gets threads locked......... What an A class hypocrite.

Did you have fun on your ramble?

[Bernie Sanders]

So we have a bigoted homosexual crusader/white knight(No I'm not suggesting DSOIV is gay, just that he/she/zi/hir is prone to promoting homosexuality and braying that anything that is not homosexuality is bigotry), stalking a slav genius/nationalist who is not bigot just has the political view that militant islam is fundamentally incompatible with western/european values and society. Since the noble GoranZ has a view that does not fit within DSOIV's world view, poor Goranz is doomed to have the incoherent and increasingly hysterical SJW stalking him and accusing him of thought crimes. Not content with stalking his betters, the deplorable DSOIV gets threads locked......... What an A class hypocrite.

Did you have fun on your ramble?

His incoherent ramblings are due to his fear of his own sexuality. Plus his admiration of Goran0 is fitting. Both have to judge others to make themselves fill more superior.

[Symmetry]

I think he feels pretty secure in his echo-chamber. He just gets insecure with talking to people who have other points of view, and retreats back to the insider language he's comfortable with, and that he knows will receive the praise he wants.

It's unfortunate, as I've seen a few sparks of genuinely independent thought from him in the past. Not that that means I agreed with him, just that they showed he was, and perhaps still is, capable of more than partisan groupthink.

[Razorvich]

enough said..

[BoganGod]

enough said..

I see ya, I'll raise ya

Then a fucking seppo tries to explain shit
this is gayer than DSOIV(gay in the modern "lame" usage of the word)

The proudly kiwi part pakeha fruit

[Symmetry]

More nonsense.

I'd suggest that you use your words BG, but that hasn't worked so well for you of late. Perhaps take a break. Have a breather.

Having exhausted the written and video mediums, you might be best off doing that before you resort to interpretative dance to express your dislike of me.

Nobody wants that, mate. Nobody wants that.

[GoranZ]

So we have a bigoted homosexual crusader/white knight(No I'm not suggesting DSOIV is gay, just that he/she/zi/hir is prone to promoting homosexuality and braying that anything that is not homosexuality is bigotry), stalking a slav genius/nationalist who is not bigot just has the political view that militant islam is fundamentally incompatible with western/european values and society. Since the noble GoranZ has a view that does not fit within DSOIV's world view, poor Goranz is doomed to have the incoherent and increasingly hysterical SJW stalking him and accusing him of thought crimes. Not content with stalking his betters, the deplorable DSOIV gets threads locked......... What an A class hypocrite.

Some people shoot the messenger. And I got 24 hours forum ban for pointing out what is happening and what will happen...

You know as well as I that not all Muslims are bad.

Of course I know that, I never said that all Muslims are bad. I specifically said something similar as "Muslims are bad", which excludes all. In reality good part of them are bad towards other religions, and the ones that are not, dont condemn those that are bad. And that's whats rotten in that religion

Wishing violence apon a particular people is Bigotry.

I dont wish violence towards other people, except to those that wish the same towards me. Eye for an Eye.

Your last post including an entire religion is Bigotry.

Yes it is, take middle east for example, quarter Christians a century ago, barely 5% now. Muslims are real flowers... tho you can die from them.

I have edited your posts, take 24hours to cool down and think about what you are saying.

You achieve nothing, I was calm then, as I'm now and I have wrote what you edited 10 more times in other topics on the forum(search for it )
And no worries I'm not cheering for the the story about the soap, Muslims will harm themselves on their own. I can tell you how will it start. It will start with this sentence "No one gonna harm innocent *insert native European nation any more!". It has happened in the Balkans previously, it will happen again, no need to shoot the messenger(that would be me).

This is your first Major offence in the forums.

Its second, I objected fabricated map about D-Day once. In both cases I dont consider that I did something wrong.

@Razorvich Read forum rules about Politics/Religion before you use your powers.

If someone posts something you do not agree with - DO NOT REPORT IT - Everyone is entitled to have an opinion. I, on the other hand really could not care who's god is the best or which countries or parties leader is corrupt. (when it comes to moderating, my own views are my own and I keep them out of this forum for a very good reason)

If it hurts you so much, FOE THEM, or start your own thread... do NOT retaliate or you may find yourself on a vacation for baiting/flaming.

Please Do NOT threaten anyone , it will only bite you when you receive the ban


If you keep wasting my time by reporting posts because they disagree with your personal views, you may just find that I will remove you from the forum. Simple as that

Have a nice day

Borrowed from posting.php?mode=quote&f=8&p=4761967

[Symmetry]

Goran, you don't seem calm at all. A break to rethink the way you talk about Muslims was in some ways a good idea. I've been in your position before, where a ban just added fuel to a fire. It's really intended as more of a chance for a rethink.

Take the break for what it was- a chance to calm down and order your thoughts. You were being a bigot, but you don't have to be. You don't have to like Islam but you don't have to hate Muslims, just as I dislike some aspects of religion, without calling for the deaths of people who have faith.

You don't have to like me to see that that's a more sensible and sociable approach I'm suggesting to you, and it's one that Razor was urging you to adopt.

[GoranZ]

Goran, you don't seem calm at all.

If you have been to many shrinks doesn't mean that you are shrink
How do you know if I'm calm or not?

A break to rethink the way you talk about Muslims was in some ways a good idea. I've been in your position before, where a ban just added fuel to a fire. It's really intended as more of a chance for a rethink.

Dream on

Take the break for what it was- a chance to calm down and order your thoughts. You were being a bigot, but you don't have to be.

This looks like flame to me, nice try.

You don't have to like Islam but you don't have to hate Muslims, just as I dislike some aspects of religion, without calling for the deaths of people who have faith.

If you can't read, take glasses. I never said that I wish for death of people. I said what will happen, and how will it start. There is a huge difference.
You are blaming the messenger for delivering the message. Instead of that, change your self in time so you can save your self.

You don't have to like me to see that that's a more sensible and sociable approach I'm suggesting to you, and it's one that Razor was urging you to adopt.

Again you think that you are shrink, you got to take your pills.

[Symmetry]

Goran, you don't seem calm at all.

If you have been to many shrinks doesn't mean that you are shrink
How do you know if I'm calm or not?

A break to rethink the way you talk about Muslims was in some ways a good idea. I've been in your position before, where a ban just added fuel to a fire. It's really intended as more of a chance for a rethink.

Dream on

Take the break for what it was- a chance to calm down and order your thoughts. You were being a bigot, but you don't have to be.

This looks like flame to me, nice try.

You don't have to like Islam but you don't have to hate Muslims, just as I dislike some aspects of religion, without calling for the deaths of people who have faith.

If you can't read, take glasses. I never said that I wish for death of people. I said what will happen, and how will it start. There is a huge difference.
You are blaming the messenger for delivering the message. Instead of that, change your self in time so you can save your self.

You don't have to like me to see that that's a more sensible and sociable approach I'm suggesting to you, and it's one that Razor was urging you to adopt.

Again you think that you are shrink, you got to take your pills.

You're not writing as if you are calm. That's all I have to go on, plus a bit of experience working with people in my community. It tends to follow that if someone is excessively insistent that they are calm, then they probably aren't.

I think you might need to acknowledge that you're pretty much not coming across as calm here.

I note that you first went for the idea that I might be playing at being a psychiatrist, or psychologist though. You call them "shrinks", which is a fairly dismissive term generally used by people who have either had therapy and disliked it, or have had it suggested before, and hated the idea.

You certainly have an irrational hatred of Muslims. Would you like to deal with it? You'd be better of, and perhaps calmer if you at least tried.

[patches70]

I doubt Goranz hates muslims, he hates Islamists. His only mistake is interchanging muslim and Islamists. All Islamists are muslim but not all muslims are Islamists. It's not irrational from Goranz point of view to hate Islamists.
You Sym, if you were to actually stand for your own principles, should also hate Islamists because Islamist Ideology is completely incompatible with your own beliefs. That is if I've accurately identified your core beliefs.

For instance, you seem to be hypersensitive to anything anti LGBTQ what the f*ck ever. Islamists will certainly never come around to your side on that issue and are absolute opposite of your view. In fact, they'd just as surely killed you for attempting to stand up for the rights of homosexual, alternative or however you want to call it. They'd toss your body right into the same pit they'd throw the very people you champion for.

To the Islamist, Islam is not just a religion, it's a political entity as well. It is completely at odds with your own view of secular governance and you certainly wouldn't want to live under such a regime. If you found yourself under the thumb of one you quickly figure out to keep your mouth shut or you'd be executed in short order.
For Goranz to rail and warn against Islamists is the correct and moral thing to do. From his point of view at least. From the Islamists point of view, not so much.

I would suggest that instead of using the term "muslim", Goranz should use the correct term "Islamist". Or at least when reading his rants you at least understand that he is talking about Islamists.
If Islamist infiltrated my country and attempted to begin making Islam the political ruling class, not only would I rant against it, I'd be getting my rifle and I'd actually fight against it.
Muslims who just want to live in peace and practice their own religion and have no interest in making their religion the ruling party of my country, I have zero problem with. More power to 'em I say.
Islamists on the other hand, f*ck 'em. Shoot 'em in the streets if they start making trouble in the neighborhood.

[BoganGod]

I doubt Goranz hates muslims, he hates Islamists. His only mistake is interchanging muslim and Islamists. All Islamists are muslim but not all muslims are Islamists. It's not irrational from Goranz point of view to hate Islamists.
You Sym, if you were to actually stand for your own principles, should also hate Islamists because Islamist Ideology is completely incompatible with your own beliefs. That is if I've accurately identified your core beliefs.

For instance, you seem to be hypersensitive to anything anti LGBTQ what the f*ck ever. Islamists will certainly never come around to your side on that issue and are absolute opposite of your view. In fact, they'd just as surely killed you for attempting to stand up for the rights of homosexual, alternative or however you want to call it. They'd toss your body right into the same pit they'd throw the very people you champion for.

To the Islamist, Islam is not just a religion, it's a political entity as well. It is completely at odds with your own view of secular governance and you certainly wouldn't want to live under such a regime. If you found yourself under the thumb of one you quickly figure out to keep your mouth shut or you'd be executed in short order.
For Goranz to rail and warn against Islamists is the correct and moral thing to do. From his point of view at least. From the Islamists point of view, not so much.

I would suggest that instead of using the term "muslim", Goranz should use the correct term "Islamist". Or at least when reading his rants you at least understand that he is talking about Islamists.
If Islamist infiltrated my country and attempted to begin making Islam the political ruling class, not only would I rant against it, I'd be getting my rifle and I'd actually fight against it.
Muslims who just want to live in peace and practice their own religion and have no interest in making their religion the ruling party of my country, I have zero problem with. More power to 'em I say.
Islamists on the other hand, f*ck 'em. Shoot 'em in the streets if they start making trouble in the neighborhood.

Patches, Sym the simp has one set of beliefs only. Gay goooooood, everything else baaaaaad. Calling something bad if you aren't gay, makes you a bigot. Islam condemns gay acts, though not gay people who don't do gay acts. Since people condemn islam for the actions of some muslims, Islam is being oppressed. Since those doing the condemning of Islam don't identify as gay, simp doesn't think they are qualified to comment and will white knight for 1/5th of the world's population that are muslim. Unless a gay person says muslims are bad, simp will support muslims because they are being oppressed by feelings and opinions.
......I know it doesn't make sense to a sane person. To a simp, makes sense some how. Strange really, as normally Canadians are a little kooky but rational for the most part. Don't get simp started on BLM or FAM.
The constantly bemused Gay Mixed breed JEsUS

[Symmetry]

I doubt Goranz hates muslims, he hates Islamists. His only mistake is interchanging muslim and Islamists. All Islamists are muslim but not all muslims are Islamists. It's not irrational from Goranz point of view to hate Islamists.
You Sym, if you were to actually stand for your own principles, should also hate Islamists because Islamist Ideology is completely incompatible with your own beliefs. That is if I've accurately identified your core beliefs.

For instance, you seem to be hypersensitive to anything anti LGBTQ what the f*ck ever. Islamists will certainly never come around to your side on that issue and are absolute opposite of your view. In fact, they'd just as surely killed you for attempting to stand up for the rights of homosexual, alternative or however you want to call it. They'd toss your body right into the same pit they'd throw the very people you champion for.

To the Islamist, Islam is not just a religion, it's a political entity as well. It is completely at odds with your own view of secular governance and you certainly wouldn't want to live under such a regime. If you found yourself under the thumb of one you quickly figure out to keep your mouth shut or you'd be executed in short order.
For Goranz to rail and warn against Islamists is the correct and moral thing to do. From his point of view at least. From the Islamists point of view, not so much.

I would suggest that instead of using the term "muslim", Goranz should use the correct term "Islamist". Or at least when reading his rants you at least understand that he is talking about Islamists.
If Islamist infiltrated my country and attempted to begin making Islam the political ruling class, not only would I rant against it, I'd be getting my rifle and I'd actually fight against it.
Muslims who just want to live in peace and practice their own religion and have no interest in making their religion the ruling party of my country, I have zero problem with. More power to 'em I say.
Islamists on the other hand, f*ck 'em. Shoot 'em in the streets if they start making trouble in the neighborhood.

Not really mate- he's been pretty clear on his hatred of Muslims. I understand what you're trying to say, but he's not been the kind of befuddled anti-Islamist that you want him to be.

I'd like him to change his stance too, but I'm not so wishful in my thinking as to suppose that he was just making a mistake in terminology all this time. I don't really want to insult you, but I think you might be party to a kind of naïveté here.

I don't think that you really believe that this is the first time that he has been confronted over his extreme views and bigotry. Arguing that he just made a mix-up doesn't really carry water. Posters, myself included, and mods have confronted him over this.

He has maintained his anti-Muslim bigotry throughout.

[patches70]

Dude you are just trolling him. You try to be the sophist but you are half assed at it and you all too often come off as someone who doesn't have a very good grasp of the English language.

I don't know if Goranz is a bigot or not. The traits he is complaining about are the traits of Islamists. Hey, maybe he does hate all muslims, I don't know.

Goranz, every time you are posting, replace the world "muslim" with "Islamist". Then, when Sym comes to try and troll you over your worries about Islamists taking over and murdering gays, liberals, Christians, Hindus, atheists, blasphemers and the such, when Sym comes in and tries to defend those murderous thugs he shows his true colors. He won't be able to say a single thing because his supposed values are exactly opposite of Islamists. Then you can rant in peace, no one will bug you because they'd have to effectively defend the likes of ISIS and people who want to enact Sharia law and want to dominate the entire world and either force people to convert, pay a fine or just outright murder them. Even Sym won't be able to defend them. He'll just go away and look for other targets.

Or continue to conflate Muslims and Islamists and keep spinning your wheels. Either or works for me.

Carry on.

[Symmetry]

Dude you are just trolling him. You try to be the sophist but you are half assed at it and you all too often come off as someone who doesn't have a very good grasp of the English language.

I don't know if Goranz is a bigot or not. The traits he is complaining about are the traits of Islamists. Hey, maybe he does hate all muslims, I don't know.

Goranz, every time you are posting, replace the world "muslim" with "Islamist". Then, when Sym comes to try and troll you over your worries about Islamists taking over and murdering gays, liberals, Christians, Hindus, atheists, blasphemers and the such, when Sym comes in and tries to defend those murderous thugs he shows his true colors. He won't be able to say a single thing because his supposed values are exactly opposite of Islamists. Then you can rant in peace, no one will bug you because they'd have to effectively defend the likes of ISIS and people who want to enact Sharia law and want to dominate the entire world and either force people to convert, pay a fine or just outright murder them. Even Sym won't be able to defend them. He'll just go away and look for other targets.

Or continue to conflate Muslims and Islamists and keep spinning your wheels. Either or works for me.

Carry on.

If you're not willing to listen to a reasoned argument based on what I, and others have experienced directly of Goran's posts.

You wish that instead of his words, we should replace words that you wish or imagine you would have would have liked him to say.

You think I'm trolling because I'm dealing with reality. You've constructed an alternate reality version of Goran where his arguments are replaced by arguments you prefer.

Sadly, I'm not convinced by your phantom Goran. I've had conversations with the real deal