The bbb

[Dukasaur]

and yes, that is partisan. Are you surprised? REALLY?

Actually, yes! I guess I should have known better, but I was really surprised that the Chairman of a Congressional committee would use an official communique to put out a pure one-sided propaganda piece. I've never given it much thought, but I had assumed that the Chairman is supposed to be impartial, and his communiques should attempt to represent the consensus of the committee, and if there is no consensus, then he should do his utmost to present a neutral and balanced view of the different opinions of people on the committee.

Stupid me. Sometimes I think I'm very cynical, but other times I find out just how naively innocent I am.

[mookiemcgee]

AND all these words spoken by a Canadian living under the US Umbrella of a defense shield. As I said before, Duk, you speak on your high horse of moral outrage from a perspective of the shadow of a strong US Defense (or Military, if you wish).

As far as your umbrella is concerned, keep it. Canada enjoys the same gifted geography as the U.S. There are massive oceans between us and anyone who might want to attack us, and if someone did overcome the logistical nightmare of a trans-oceanic invasion, gobbling up this much land while fighting the local militia would wear them down sooner or later. The only country that could realistically attack us would, in fact, be the U.S., so I guess we should be grateful that until now most of your leaders have been relatively sane.

You analysis here mistakenly ignores the possibility of the US invading Canada, which for our entire lifetimes has seemed like a completely insane idea... but no more! Oddsmakers probably moved from .00000001% to like 2% on a question phrased like 'Will the US invade Canada by 2075" over the last year or so. Is it likely? No. Would a US invasion be likely to succeed? 100x more likely than any other country trying.

[mookiemcgee]

and yes, that is partisan. Are you surprised? REALLY?

Actually, yes! I guess I should have known better, but I was really surprised that the Chairman of a Congressional committee would use an official communique to put out a pure one-sided propaganda piece. I've never given it much thought, but I had assumed that the Chairman is supposed to be impartial, and his communiques should attempt to represent the consensus of the committee, and if there is no consensus, then he should do his utmost to present a neutral and balanced view of the different opinions of people on the committee.

Stupid me. Sometimes I think I'm very cynical, but other times I find out just how naively innocent I am.

a senate or house committee would never be non-partisan/unbiased. The chariman is put in place by whoever is in power, and that party will almost always hold a majority of the membership within the committee. They are generally charged to looking into something, forming an opinion and then selling that opinion to either the congressional body they are in, or the American population in general. Think committee on Jan 6th or the Biden impeachment inquiry, there would just be no way something like that could be viably non-partisan when it's a gathering of partisans. Totally understandable mistake on your part though, to thing a .gov link could be actually meaningful impartial information. That good old naive innocent canadian perspective

It's tough though, even things here that were created specifically to try and be non-partisan (like the CBO) easily become seen as partisan by whoever doesn't like their numbers, and may actually become partisan in a sense over long enough periods of time just by staying the same while times actually change. Like the Fed for instance which most Americans didn't know existed prior to the internet is meant to be non-partisan and I believe it still makes decisions on a non-partisan basis... but when politicians come in and attack them as partisan and maybe even try and fire them because what they are doing might be right for the economy but bad for a presidents image. Slowly they lose their image of being non-partisan and eventually actual partisans start getting appointed to lead these orgs and it's not entirely clear if that genie can ever go back in the bottle.

[jusplay4fun]

Okay, Duk, I will use the analogy of you walking and sailing safely in the world because the US, the World's Policeman, keeps the streets and waterways relatively safe for Canadians (and most other nations), specifically, on the high seas from pirates and missiles and gangs.

And replace moral outrage with your virtue signalling.

And you want to tell me that you and all other Canadians do not enjoy the benefits of being next door to the US, across the largest undefended border in the ENTIRE world? And let's not muck up that general discussion with talk of tariffs in the past 6 months.

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And Mookie, why would the US invade Canada or Mexico? NO reason, other than insanity; simple silliness.

[HitRed]

[mookiemcgee]

And Mookie, why would the US invade Canada or Mexico? NO reason, other than insanity; simple silliness.

Yeah it's weird right? Why would a US president try and turn their physically closest ally into an adversary? Why would they make claims about making it the 51st state? Complete silliness, that you voted for and continue to defend in spite of it being insane. Get your head out of your ass?

[jusplay4fun]

And Mookie, why would the US invade Canada or Mexico? NO reason, other than insanity; simple silliness.

Yeah it's weird right? Why would a US president try and turn their physically closest ally into an adversary? Why would they make claims about making it the 51st state? Complete silliness, that you voted for and continue to defend in spite of it being insane. Get your head out of your ass?

"adversary"?? Mookie does not know a joke when he hears one.

Mookie, now your TDS is showing; NOT a good look, tbf. Neither is this one:



I suggest that you don't go to that level, Mookie; you are losing the respect that you earned.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Is this about Big Black Booties?

[mookiemcgee]

you are losing the respect that you earned.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Having respect from a bunch of strangers on the internet is akin to slapping a gold star on your forehead. Just be honest with your opinions, no matter how shit they are, and just roll with it.

[jusplay4fun]

I think Mookie is upset that he lost RESPECT:



AND
1) His Senator, Kamala, lost in 2024;

2) the CA Senator, Alex Padilla, is made to look like a fool, once the actual facts came out;

3) Mayor Karen Bass of LA continues to look foolish;

4) the CA Governor Gavin Newsom looks as bad as Bass;

5) his CA Team lost (name any: Warriors, Dodgers, Rams, Trojans, 49ers);

6) the Pac-12 is now down to the PAC-2;

7) other Dems lost the election bids;

8 ) his pet died;

9) and he lost games on CC.

10-12) Oh, and Trump won and that includes the bbb and several cases before SCOTUS, some 8-1.

Did I miss anything, Mookie?

[Pack Rat]

Whatever respect you had, has been thrown out with the garbage.

Plus, the fact you actually pointed out his pet died is bizarre.

[jusplay4fun]

the fact you actually pointed out his pet died is bizarre.

Just a theory. btw: my pet goldfish died yesterday; I am in mourning in the morning.

[saxitoxin]

Worst part of the BBB - The Golden Dome. All it does is serve as a stateside reserve of interceptor missiles for Israel that won't have to technically count toward more U.S. aid to Israel.