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Re: TRUMP/RENAMES WAR DEPARTMENT!!!

Postby Pack Rat on Sat Sep 06, 2025 9:51 am

Trump's broken promises:



Just a reality check...
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Re: TRUMP/RENAMES WAR DEPARTMENT!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Sep 06, 2025 1:19 pm

Interesting:

Pack Rat said:

The newly renamed Department of War will wage war to eradicate an infestation of rats in some Low level areas in and around some military bases, especially near trash heaps, land fills, and waste water.

:lol: :D :lol: :P
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Re: TRUMP/RENAMES WAR DEPARTMENT!!!

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Sep 06, 2025 8:11 pm

Interesting that this fucker brags about ending wars (that he didn't end) and ran on a platform that included "no more foreign wars", but has vastly increased the funding for the military-industrial complex, and spews war propaganda on a regular basis.
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Re: TRUMP/RENAMES WAR DEPARTMENT!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Sep 06, 2025 11:00 pm

Dukasaur wrote:Interesting that this fucker brags about ending wars (that he didn't end) and ran on a platform that included "no more foreign wars", but has vastly increased the funding for the military-industrial complex, and spews war propaganda on a regular basis.


Defense = Deterrence
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Re: TRUMP/RENAMES WAR DEPARTMENT!!!

Postby mookiemcgee on Sun Sep 07, 2025 10:43 am

War = Not Peace
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Re: TRUMP/RENAMES WAR DEPARTMENT!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Sep 07, 2025 4:09 pm

Perhaps it should be called the Department of Soldiers Lives Matter.
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Re: TRUMP/RENAMES WAR DEPARTMENT!!!

Postby mookiemcgee on Sun Sep 07, 2025 5:20 pm

Or maybe Department of War against States That Disagree With Me
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Re: TRUMP/RENAMES WAR DEPARTMENT!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Sep 07, 2025 7:59 pm

The Department of We Want Strong Soldiers.

The Department of We Want You (to Fight and Defend 'Mericuh).

Or, to get serious, let's examine History:

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The U.S. Department of Defense was called the Department of Defense because the 1947 National Security Act merged the branches of the military, including the previous Department of War, under a single civilian-led entity called the National Military Establishment, which was renamed the Department of Defense in 1949. This name was chosen to emphasize defense and preventing war rather than warfare itself, a shift in focus after World War II and with the advent of nuclear weapons.


as I posted previously, Defense = Deterrence

I think this "debate" and desire to switch the name to "War" is silly and unneeded; the emphasis is WRONG.
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Re: TRUMP/RENAMES WAR DEPARTMENT!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sun Sep 07, 2025 11:20 pm

-----------It should of never been changed from The Department of War.........The USA was Undefeated and still is under that name...
----------------Only got an ass kicking in Vietnam , under a woke,p*ssy name......WAR STRIKES FEAR IN OUR ENEMIES.....Defense .....Little piss-ant countries spit in The USA's face.....When the Dems. are in charge...They get away with it.....
... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
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Re: TRUMP/RENAMES WAR DEPARTMENT!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Sep 08, 2025 12:43 am

ConfederateSS wrote:-----------
It should of never been changed from The Department of War.........The USA was Undefeated and still is under that name...
----------------Only got an ass kicking in Vietnam , under a woke,p*ssy name......WAR STRIKES FEAR IN OUR ENEMIES.....Defense .....Little piss-ant countries spit in The USA's face.....When the Dems. are in charge...They get away with it........ O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)


A name change is not that important, not really. When an American soldier tells an enemy fighter that I can call down destruction out of the SKY NOW to this spot/vehicle/building and then a laser guided missile/rocket HITS that very SPOT, THAT gets the attention of the fighter, NOT a name change. The weapons, the discipline, the fighting skills, and the effectiveness of American tactics and strategies impress the enemy, NOT a name change and/or a new uniform color.

Yes, this name CHANGE may change the ETHOS of the American Fighters/Soldiers and Sailors. BUT in the greater scheme of things, it is NOT that important. If I work for ESSO or EXXON, so what? If I work for or even simply BUY a Coke or Coca-Cola, so what? If I work for or buy from Dunkin or Dunkin Donuts, so what?

I think your analysis is too shallow, ConfedSS.

Chinese invaders to Japan were not impressed by the elaborate show put on Japanese Warriors:

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During the Mongol invasions of Japan, the Mongol soldiers were not impressed by the Japanese samurai's traditional and highly ritualistic approach to warfare. The rigid, individualistic samurai code of combat was disastrously mismatched against the Mongols' disciplined, coordinated, and brutal tactics.

The Mongols' unimpressed reaction stemmed from the following differences in battle tactics:
Formal challenges versus group charges: Japanese battles traditionally began with a single warrior stepping forward to announce his name and challenge a worthy opponent to a one-on-one duel. When a samurai did this, the Mongols would not observe the custom but instead laugh and attack him en masse, overwhelming the single warrior. (...)

Japanese adaptations and lessons learned
The samurai were initially baffled by these foreign tactics but eventually adapted for the second Mongol invasion in 1281.
The Japanese built extensive coastal walls to prevent the Mongols from establishing a beachhead. They also began using small boats for nighttime raids to attack and burn the Mongol ships, disrupting their forces.
While the Japanese eventually repelled both invasions with the help of typhoons ("divine winds" or kamikaze) that devastated the Mongol fleet, the initial encounters were a rude awakening for the samurai's traditional view of combat. The invasions forced the Japanese to reconsider their martial approach, influencing tactical changes and leading to the eventual design of more resilient swords like the katana.


As far as Vietnam, there were no real clear military objectives. The enemy fought a guerilla war against an American military not used to fighting such an enemy or against such tactics. The American mindset, in the military and at Home, was for a WWII scheme. The enemy in Vietnam was not Germany or Japan in 1944. This battle/war reminds me of the ragtag Continental Army fighting the mighty British Redcoats in 1777. The Americans were not going to defeat the British Army in a traditional battle of the times, so resorted to basically guerilla warfare.

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Basics of Guerilla Warfare | TacticalGear.com
Guerrilla warfare is a form of irregular conflict conducted by small, independent forces using tactics such as ambushes, sabotage, and raids to harass, delay, and disrupt larger, conventional military forces. The goal is often to achieve political objectives by making the war too costly for the opponent to sustain, rather than winning on the battlefield through direct confrontation. It typically involves partisan forces or rebels, but regular military units cut off behind enemy lines can also use these tactics.


You might try to read and recall a bit of History.
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Re: TRUMP/RENAMES WAR DEPARTMENT!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Sep 08, 2025 12:53 am

ConfederateSS wrote:-------------------- TRUMP signed an Executive Order...Putting the name DEPARTMENT of WAR back... :!: =D> =D> =D> ...The USA isn't running from anyone......THE WORLD KNOWS ONCE AGAIN(Since WW2)...DON'T F*CK WITH THE USA... :!: =D> =D> =D> ...Defense means you're sitting back, waiting......"WAR"...YOU ARE ON THE OFFENSE...THE USA ...LEADER of THE FREE WORLD...CAN ONCE AGAIN...BE THE LEADER, ALWAYS ON OFFENSE... =D> =D> =D> ...NOT SLEEPING ,LIKE 9/11...OPEN BORDERS(COUNTLESS DEAD AMERICANS)...
------------------TRUMP'S MAKING AMERICA #1 AGAIN...MORE CAMPAIGN PROMISES KEPT...[/size]... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:).....


The USA does not need its military "on the Offense" all the time. The projection of Military Power is NOT always how many asses they can kick, but more importand is how many wars and battles one can win WITHOUT firing a shot.

Sun Tzu's famous quote about winning without fighting is: "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting". This principle, from his influential work The Art of War, emphasizes that the most skillful victories are achieved not through direct conflict, but through strategy, wisdom, patience, and manipulating circumstances to make the opponent yield before a battle even begins.

Here's a breakdown of the quote's meaning:
Not about brute force:
The greatest triumphs don't come from raw power or confrontation.


Strategic victory:
It highlights the supremacy of intellect, foresight, and meticulous planning over physical strength.

Achieved before combat:
The ideal scenario is one where the opponent is strategically outmaneuvered or their will to fight is broken, making further conflict unnecessary.


Applicable beyond war:
This concept can be applied to various aspects of life, such as business and personal challenges, where strategic thinking and patience lead to success.


Again, ConfedSS, try to read and recall a bit of History and writings on the Art of War. I have.
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