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Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby AslanTheKing on Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:53 pm

What do you think?

The Europeans wish that Obama stays in Power, the Russians too, but what do the Americans want.

I personally think he is doing a good job and it would serve the USA if he stays President.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby Frigidus on Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:01 pm

If I had to bet on it I'd say Obama remains president. It's basically impossible to say what Americans want at this point, as our country is so divided over Red Team/Blue Team fervor that the two groups have almost developed their own separate cultures.
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Postby 2dimes on Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:02 pm

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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:05 pm

AslanTheKing wrote:What do you think?

The Europeans wish that Obama stays in Power, the Russians too....


You left out the Muslim Brotherhood

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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby Timminz on Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:07 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:What do you think?

The Europeans wish that Obama stays in Power, the Russians too....


You left out the Muslim Brotherhood


And Canada.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:15 pm

AslanTheKing wrote:The Europeans wish that Obama stays in Power, the Russians too


a billion Arabs disagree with lily white Europe
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:27 pm

But you're probably right. As long as he can keep two oceans and ten thousand tanks between himself and the families of his victims, he should be able to cling to power for a couple more years. His biggest worry at this point appears the threat of his own Army deposing him in a military coup but he was able to handle last month's coup attempt pretty well.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby Ray Rider on Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:28 pm

"It has become a cliché: the new normal. Indeed, so accustomed have Americans become to slow economic growth and stubbornly high unemployment, more than three years into the 'recovery,' that it may not even seriously threaten Barack Obama’s re-election prospects. No one thinks the economy would be doing much better with someone else in the White House. They are probably right. It is telling that neither Obama nor his Republican opponent has offered much of a plan to spur the economy, at least in the short term."

No matter who's elected, you guys are screwed. The only question is how bad you'll be screwed.

Seriously, your two-party system will always result in disaster as long as you keep selecting the two worst options as candidates.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby Frigidus on Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:31 pm

Ray Rider wrote:"It has become a cliché: the new normal. Indeed, so accustomed have Americans become to slow economic growth and stubbornly high unemployment, more than three years into the 'recovery,' that it may not even seriously threaten Barack Obama’s re-election prospects. No one thinks the economy would be doing much better with someone else in the White House. They are probably right. It is telling that neither Obama nor his Republican opponent has offered much of a plan to spur the economy, at least in the short term."

No matter who's elected, you guys are screwed. The only question is how bad you'll be screwed.

Seriously, your two-party system will always result in disaster as long as you keep selecting the two worst options as candidates.


Yup. Pity no major news networks are willing to point this out or maybe people would start pulling their heads out of their asses.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby jay_a2j on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:28 pm

Ray Rider wrote:Seriously, your two-party system will always result in disaster as long as you keep selecting the two worst options as candidates.



The problem is we don't select them. The question is, who does?



We are given a choice between 2 candidates. Why are the pools of primary choices always similar to the previous election? Romney ran in 08. He lost to McCain who also ran in 2000. Gingrich ran in 08 and 12, Paul same, We are getting rehashed choices!!!! Too bad, because America needs a leader like Paul and the results of the goons we keep "electing" are on the way.



If we had elected Paul in '88 and like minded presidents thereafter we wouldn't be in the mess we are now
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby Woodruff on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:49 pm

jay_a2j wrote:If we had elected Paul in '88 and like minded presidents thereafter we wouldn't be in the mess we are now


We have the opportunity to elect someone like-minded THIS election. I don't expect that it will happen, but the opportunity is there.

As to the question in the subject, I do think he will remain as President. I say that not thinking that he's done a very good job either...I simply think that Romney is looking worse the longer this goes.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby Mageplunka69 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:55 pm

Yes we are screwed....And I believe we are really a ONE party system, they just let us feel like we have a choice...I think the race has been decided even before Obama took office the 1st time...They are all placed there strategically way in advance
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:24 pm

i want to go live on an island in Micronesia with 50 people, eat coconuts and fish then die from some unknown disease when I'm 46.

i don't care who's president anymore.

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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:34 pm

Ray Rider wrote:"It has become a cliché: the new normal. Indeed, so accustomed have Americans become to slow economic growth and stubbornly high unemployment, more than three years into the 'recovery,' that it may not even seriously threaten Barack Obama’s re-election prospects. No one thinks the economy would be doing much better with someone else in the White House. They are probably right. It is telling that neither Obama nor his Republican opponent has offered much of a plan to spur the economy, at least in the short term."

No matter who's elected, you guys are screwed. The only question is how bad you'll be screwed.

Seriously, your two-party system will always result in disaster as long as you keep selecting the two worst options as candidates.


The two party system does suck.

That being said, our two-party system will alwyas result in disaster? Yeah, because the US is so sucky and not good at stuff.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby jay_a2j on Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:38 pm

This guy is either extremely arrogant or he knows something we (the public) don't.


Lisen to Obama's FIRST sentence!
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby notyou2 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:05 pm

I could be wrong, but I don't think Italy's multi-party system has helped that country. It seems that governments change like the seasons there and nothing gets accomplished due to partisan politics. Americas current problem is total lack of cooperation between the 2 parties when America (and the world) needed cooperation the most.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:32 pm

Of all the democratic countries of similar wealth or GDP to the US, how many have an extremely dominant two-party political system?
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby notyou2 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:40 pm

Canada is roughly 10% of the US and has had a predominately 2 party system for as long as I can remember, but in the last election, a third party actually surged and has become the second most popular party. I think the people have had enough of the other 2, especially the one that was relegated to third place.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby john9blue on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:06 pm

romney might win if he kicks ass in the debates (which is possible), otherwise it's probably gonna go to obama
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:14 pm

john9blue wrote:romney might win if he kicks ass in the debates (which is possible), otherwise it's probably gonna go to obama


After watching both candidates speak and after watching Romney in the primary debates, there is no question in my mind that Obama is going to wipe the floor with Romney in the presidential debates. Obama is a more charismatic speaker and seems, at least right now, to have more substance (i.e. concrete ideas) than Romney. Maybe that will change. But Romney sucked in the debates and the Republicans tried hard to find someone other than him (Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Chris Christie, etc.).
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby john9blue on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:20 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
john9blue wrote:romney might win if he kicks ass in the debates (which is possible), otherwise it's probably gonna go to obama


After watching both candidates speak and after watching Romney in the primary debates, there is no question in my mind that Obama is going to wipe the floor with Romney in the presidential debates. Obama is a more charismatic speaker and seems, at least right now, to have more substance (i.e. concrete ideas) than Romney. Maybe that will change. But Romney sucked in the debates and the Republicans tried hard to find someone other than him (Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Chris Christie, etc.).


i've learned from watching romney that he can be whatever people want him to be.

i don't think it's out of the question that he could "remake" himself to be more aggressive and substantial than obama, if there's enough pressure on him to do so. unlikely, but possible.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby notyou2 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:32 pm

john9blue wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
john9blue wrote:romney might win if he kicks ass in the debates (which is possible), otherwise it's probably gonna go to obama


After watching both candidates speak and after watching Romney in the primary debates, there is no question in my mind that Obama is going to wipe the floor with Romney in the presidential debates. Obama is a more charismatic speaker and seems, at least right now, to have more substance (i.e. concrete ideas) than Romney. Maybe that will change. But Romney sucked in the debates and the Republicans tried hard to find someone other than him (Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Chris Christie, etc.).


i've learned from watching romney that he can be whatever people want him to be.

i don't think it's out of the question that he could "remake" himself to be more aggressive and substantial than obama, if there's enough pressure on him to do so. unlikely, but possible.


His party has alienated women...50%+ of the vote.

Perhaps his male supporters are going to forbid their wives from voting.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:32 pm

john9blue wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
john9blue wrote:romney might win if he kicks ass in the debates (which is possible), otherwise it's probably gonna go to obama


After watching both candidates speak and after watching Romney in the primary debates, there is no question in my mind that Obama is going to wipe the floor with Romney in the presidential debates. Obama is a more charismatic speaker and seems, at least right now, to have more substance (i.e. concrete ideas) than Romney. Maybe that will change. But Romney sucked in the debates and the Republicans tried hard to find someone other than him (Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Chris Christie, etc.).


i've learned from watching romney that he can be whatever people want him to be.

i don't think it's out of the question that he could "remake" himself to be more aggressive and substantial than obama, if there's enough pressure on him to do so. unlikely, but possible.


Hmm... fair point and I would like to see it.
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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:39 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:Of all the democratic countries of similar wealth or GDP to the US, how many have an extremely dominant two-party political system?

The U.S. seems to be the most extreme example. In every other country I can think of, even those that are far along the path towards a two-party system, there is a third party that regularly get more than 10% of the vote and more than 5% of the seats in Parliament.

This may not, however, indicate any particular malevolance among American politicians. It could be that all democracies will eventually decay to that state, and the U.S. has simply gotten there first. It is one of the world's oldest democracies, after all.

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Re: Is Obama going to stay President?

Postby Army of GOD on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:40 pm

If I were a betting man I'd put my money on Obama. Romney seems way too disconnected with the public.
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