For those of you who still doubt......

[jay_a2j]

Watch this 3 minute video from CSPAN.


Its right on our doorstep people, now is not the time to be lazy! Research this stuff!

[Ditocoaf]

No really, this is fascinating. Please, go on.

[Hologram]

Lost total credibility at the national ID/radio chip part.

I have my driver's permit at the moment and no national ID, and no radio chip, and it's much later than the year 2000


It's obviously an old video, and while I'm sure he might know a few things about secret elitist organizations, I think he heard some rumors on Capitol Hill and speculated everything that he just said.


Sorry, jay, but you're going to have to do better than that.


Though I ask you, what's your big deal with the NWO if it is being implemented? I mean, it can't be all that bad, and it's certainly not going to a terrible government, or the populace after living for hundreds of years in liberty wouldn't allow it.

[jay_a2j]

Lost total credibility at the national ID/radio chip part.

I have my driver's permit at the moment and no national ID, and no radio chip, and it's much later than the year 2000


It's obviously an old video, and while I'm sure he might know a few things about secret elitist organizations, I think he heard some rumors on Capitol Hill and speculated everything that he just said.


Sorry, jay, but you're going to have to do better than that.


Though I ask you, what's your big deal with the NWO if it is being implemented? I mean, it can't be all that bad, and it's certainly not going to a terrible government, or the populace after living for hundreds of years in liberty wouldn't allow it.

He misspoke it was 2008 (if you look in the corner of the screen it says, "CSPAN 2006" so obviously he misspoke. It has been postponed again and starting in 2010 when you renew your drivers license, you will be reuired to go into the DMV and get the new card with the RFID chip in it.

What's wrong with it? What's right with it? It will be complete dictatorship. Zero freedom. You guys really should study Revelation. The powers are evil, not human.

[Hologram]

Lost total credibility at the national ID/radio chip part.

I have my driver's permit at the moment and no national ID, and no radio chip, and it's much later than the year 2000


It's obviously an old video, and while I'm sure he might know a few things about secret elitist organizations, I think he heard some rumors on Capitol Hill and speculated everything that he just said.


Sorry, jay, but you're going to have to do better than that.


Though I ask you, what's your big deal with the NWO if it is being implemented? I mean, it can't be all that bad, and it's certainly not going to a terrible government, or the populace after living for hundreds of years in liberty wouldn't allow it.

He misspoke it was 2008 (if you look in the corner of the screen it says, "CSPAN 2006" so obviously he misspoke. It has been postponed again and starting in 2010 when you renew your drivers license, you will be reuired to go into the DMV and get the new card with the RFID chip in it.

What's wrong with it? What's right with it? It will be complete dictatorship. Zero freedom. You guys really should study Revelation. The powers are evil, not human.

Who says it's going to be an evil dictatorship? Sure if it's truly part of the end times it will be, but what if it's not? What if it's just another shift in the balance of power and instead of having 200 countries, we only have 6 or 7? What's wrong with that. I've personally thought that it would be in the world's best interest if the entire world operated in a kind of federal system like the United States, just with the extra tier of world government?

[FabledIntegral]

You guys are idiots. As if that's limiting your freedom in ANY way.

[jay_a2j]

Trust me, it is part of the end times. Bible prophesy is happening right before our eyes!

and FabledIntegral, you will one day soon eat your words.

[InkL0sed]

Trust me, ...

Why?

[jay_a2j]

Trust me, ...

Why?

Not me per say, the Bible. (I'm just relaying the message)

[Juan_Bottom]

VeraChips are real. I'll support Jay here. 1% of the U.S. military has them. Plus all special forces(for satellite tracking). And pets....
Wal*Mart uses a company called Alien Technologies(something like that) to chip their shippings. Chips aren't a lie, we just don't all have them, and never will. Christians consider it the mark of the beast.
What bothers me more is the blood that they take from babies for eugenics expiriments(like race-specific viruses).


Wasn't there an announcement recently about a social experiment being done in the UK? Where they are going to chip a handful of schoolboys?

[Iliad]

*facepalm*

The entire thread
*facepalm*

[Juan_Bottom]

*footduckbill*

Senseless reply
*footduckbill*

[heavycola]

The powers are evil, not human.

TEH LIZARDMEN! BOW BEFORE YOUR REPTILIAN OVERLORDZZ!!1!!

[MeDeFe]

I don't think much of international conspiracies and overlords owning the world, but RFID chips everywhere on the other hand... those are a real threat to personal freedom and privacy, whether they are intended as such or not.

[DaGip]

The South Dakota Republican Party opposes the REAL ID, as it threatens to take away the sovereignty of the state.

[Pedronicus]

Is it just me, or does anyone else see the absurdity of Jay's sig?

"I think the main reason people choose to believe the government's version of events despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, is because it's easier, and safer. If you ignore most of the evidence your life remains simple."

This is the sig of the person who gave us the 'Logic dictates that there is a god' thread.

Jay, please edit your sig to read as follows:

"I think the main reason people choose to believe religion and/or the government's version of events despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, is because it's easier, and safer. If you ignore most of the evidence your life remains simple."

also could you edit the Logic dictates there is a god thread title?
I think 'Logic dictates that Jays head is stuffed up his arse' would make far more sense.

Thanks

[Juan_Bottom]

"I think the main reason people choose to believe the government's version of events despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, is because it's easier, and safer. If you ignore most of the evidence your life remains simple."

I AGREE WITH JAY ON THIS. YOU'VE GOT YOUR HEAD UP YOUR "ARSE."

[Pedronicus]

I AGREE WITH JAY ON THIS. YOU'VE GOT YOUR HEAD UP YOUR "ARSE."

This comes from someone with his location as 'USA RULES Whoooohoooo!'
One more person with his head up his arse

[Juan_Bottom]

I AGREE WITH JAY ON THIS. YOU'VE GOT YOUR HEAD UP YOUR "ARSE."

This comes from someone with his location as 'USA RULES Whoooohoooo!'
One more person with his head up his arse

You are acting like a jackass. You haven't said anything conducive.

Prove Jay, and myself wrong. What is your explination for why people always listen to their government(s), even knowing how much all of them lie? And what, pray tell, does Jay's sig have to do with anything worthy of attack? Since your rebuttal was so off-base. Seems like you just wanted to behave like a jackass.

[Pedronicus]

if Jay were to apply the same sort of thinking in his new sig as his belief in religion..... he would question god and come to the conclusion that there is more evidence to support a governement than there is an all powerful creator with a white beard sitting on a cloud.

"I think the main reason people choose to believe the government's version of events despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, is because it's easier, and safer. If you ignore most of the evidence your life remains simple."

It's double standards. Nincompoop.

I'm not disputing his thoughts of this thread (I can't comment on this thread because I've not got speakers on my work computer, so i'll have a look when I get home) it's just his new signature flies in the face of his religious beliefs.

[Juan_Bottom]

OH! Well, that makes much more sense.

[Backglass]

"At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist". Why would he say that? He sounds nothing like one?

Sigh. And normal thinking humans actually voted for this guy? No, of course not. Jay likes him.


Jay also confuses RFID with Real-ID and "Optional" with "Mandatory".

Real-ID is real. RFID is optional. New York, where Jay lives, is already 100% Real-ID compliant. Thats the huge barcode on the bottom rear of your license jay. OH NO!!!!! (he has yet to comment on this fact in numerous threads). Have you shredded your license yet jay?

The law simply states that states MAY use RFID if they choose, but to date NONE have due to the cost, not only of the tags but of equipping every police officer with readers, every DMV office, etc. You should actually take the time to READ the actual law which you fear so much.

EVEN IF THEY DID, those who know and understand WHAT RFID is and how it works are not terrified. RFID is a short range device. It is not and never has been a "tracking device" that can be watched from secret government satellites.

Your Amoco SpeedPass is RFID. Your New York State Thru-Way EZ-PASS is RFID. The security badge I have to "buzz" me in at work is RFID. I have all three and sleep very well at night. Also, no one has stolen gas from my account or passed through a toll lane on my dime. Do you know why? Because these devices are extremely short ranged.

The caveman fears that which he does not understand.

The "Amero" has been proven over & over again as a publicity stunt for a fantasy coin company and you bought it, hook line & sinker. No surprise really...you also believe there are magical gods & fairies living in the clouds. You are soooooo easily swayed into believe such fantastic stories, why not this one too.

[Dancing Mustard]

Its right on our doorstep people, now is not the time to be lazy!

Yeah!!!1

We can't just be sitting here on teh internetz ranting and raving about Lizardmen any more! We have to get out there and do something about this shiat!!! We need to take the power back and stick it to the man and stuff!!! the time for inane ravings and futile youtube videos iz over!!!1


So tell us Jay. What are you actually going to do? Or are you just a bit of an armchair revolutionary?

[jay_a2j]

Its right on our doorstep people, now is not the time to be lazy!

Yeah!!!1

We can't just be sitting here on teh internetz ranting and raving about Lizardmen any more! We have to get out there and do something about this shiat!!! We need to take the power back and stick it to the man and stuff!!! the time for inane ravings and futile youtube videos iz over!!!1


So tell us Jay. What are you actually going to do? Or are you just a bit of an armchair revolutionary?

(ignoring backglass's "I'm fine with my blinders on, leave me alone" post)



I'm doing the only thing I can do, telling family and friends about this stuff and everyone at CC.(you should feel honored)

We can't stop it but we can be informed about it.

You will give up your liberties. The only question is, will you give up your soul as well?

[MeDeFe]

Backglass, it doesn't have to be long range for identity theft and the like. 20cm is easily enough for that in a crowded place, just walk close to someone and be off, and considering that the range can be up to "a few meters" (Wiki is a little unclear there, but 3 or 4m should be a conservative guesstimate), keeping track of who's in a certain building (like a bank, or a train station) at any given moment should be a breeze.

Then add customer friendliness, yes, you won't need to pay any more, just take the stuff and leave the store, you'll be automatically billed. /sarcasm Of course that data will be handled confidentially by the company. /end sarcasm

I don't believe in lizardmen overlords, but I do believe that any sort of tracking device can pose a serious threat to personal freedoms and the private sphere.