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My views on homosexuals

Postby brooksieb on Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:39 pm

Just a short topic here. I have no problems with homosexuals at all. However considering i am a Anglican, i don't believe gay people should have any part in church ruling though i do not mind any gay people in the church at all, i do not like gay people flaunting their' homosexuality. Because it is wrong to be gay in christianity i am trying to be as leniant as my religion takes me.

I will post my views as me as a christian soon, but i wanted to get this done first.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby suggs on Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:40 pm

So you're against gay priests?
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Backglass on Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:12 pm

brooksieb wrote:Ji do not like gay people flaunting their' homosexuality.


What about Heterosexuals flaunting their Heterosexuality? Is that OK?
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Nickbaldwin on Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:59 pm

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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Curmudgeonx on Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:02 pm

Nickbaldwin wrote:I LIKE FANNY.



So your view on homosexuals is looking back over your shoulder?
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Snorri1234 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:22 pm

suggs wrote:So you're against gay priests?


I bet he isn't catholic then.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby suggs on Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:24 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
suggs wrote:So you're against gay priests?


I bet he isn't catholic then.


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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby william18 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:40 pm

I don't mind gays if they're quiet, when the announce it with happiness then it's too far. I mean this year at my school a lady was walking her kid to school while wearing a gay pride hat. I felt sorry for that kid.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Dancing Mustard on Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:43 pm

william18 wrote:I don't mind gays if they're quiet, when the announce it with happiness then it's too far.
That's sarcasm... right?
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby william18 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:45 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:
william18 wrote:I don't mind gays if they're quiet, when the announce it with happiness then it's too far.
That's sarcasm... right?


Which part?
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Gypsys Kiss on Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:48 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
suggs wrote:So you're against gay priests?


I bet he isn't catholic then.



He already said he's an Anglican :roll:
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby suggs on Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:51 pm

william18 wrote:I don't mind gays if they're quiet, when the announce it with happiness then it's too far. I mean this year at my school a lady was walking her kid to school while wearing a gay pride hat. I felt sorry for that kid.


I can see what you mean from the kids point of view -he'll prob get bullied etc cos his mum's "different" "weird" etc. But its up to people like you, who are intelligent, to take a lead, make a stand, and say to that kid "Yeah, you're one of us, no worries" (or something less cringe worthy -you have to remember I'm an old fart who still thinks Space Invaders is the last word in cool :P )
But Will, if you can't celebrate who you are with happiness, then something is wrong.

ps I appreciate its difficult to do what i said, cos you might get bullied etc -but the way to start is to be rational, think it through, and get comfortable with the idea that some people are " different" -thats how it has always been, and thank Random Chance for that.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby sam_levi_11 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:55 pm

i think the last bit is the hardest, accepting it and such is the hardest bit, who cares what other think, its what you think that matters.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby william18 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:08 pm

suggs wrote:
william18 wrote:I don't mind gays if they're quiet, when the announce it with happiness then it's too far. I mean this year at my school a lady was walking her kid to school while wearing a gay pride hat. I felt sorry for that kid.


I can see what you mean from the kids point of view -he'll prob get bullied etc cos his mum's "different" "weird" etc. But its up to people like you, who are intelligent, to take a lead, make a stand, and say to that kid "Yeah, you're one of us, no worries" (or something less cringe worthy -you have to remember I'm an old fart who still thinks Space Invaders is the last word in cool :P )
But Will, if you can't celebrate who you are with happiness, then something is wrong.

ps I appreciate its difficult to do what i said, cos you might get bullied etc -but the way to start is to be rational, think it through, and get comfortable with the idea that some people are " different" -thats how it has always been, and thank Random Chance for that.


The kid was in grade 1. His peers are too young to know what that means so I guess he's not bullied.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Snorri1234 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:13 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:i think the last bit is the hardest, accepting it and such is the hardest bit, who cares what other think, its what you think that matters.


I don't know. For some people I guess the acceptance is pretty natural. Being gay should be okay, but sometimes the environment is so against it it's very hard to admit anything.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby pimpdave on Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:30 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:i think the last bit is the hardest, accepting it and such is the hardest bit, who cares what other think, its what you think that matters.


I don't know. For some people I guess the acceptance is pretty natural. Being gay should be okay, but sometimes the environment is so against it it's very hard to admit anything.


At the same time, however, I do not think it is unreasonable for a heterosexual male to be made to feel uncomfortable by an individual homosexual. The same way no one blinks if a woman feels uncomfortable around an individual heterosexual man, there are times when an individual homosexual can make a situation uncomfortable for a heterosexual man through unwanted advances.

So it is important for homosexuals to not be too aggressive, the same way it is important for a heterosexual male to "play it cool" with the ladies, and not use a blanket statement of "That guy's homophobic!" to explain why his advances were refused or made the receiving party uncomfortable.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby heavycola on Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:32 pm

william18 wrote:I don't mind gays if they're quiet, when the announce it with happiness then it's too far. I mean this year at my school a lady was walking her kid to school while wearing a gay pride hat. I felt sorry for that kid.


Yes, it's the loud happy gays you need to watch out for. The quiet miserable ones tend to be OK - at least you know they're suffering.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby william18 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:06 pm

heavycola wrote:
william18 wrote:I don't mind gays if they're quiet, when the announce it with happiness then it's too far. I mean this year at my school a lady was walking her kid to school while wearing a gay pride hat. I felt sorry for that kid.


Yes, it's the loud happy gays you need to watch out for. The quiet miserable ones tend to be OK - at least you know they're suffering.


By quiet I don't mean secret life. It's ok for the homosexual to tell the people he wants but they shouldn't broadcast it. The world isn't ready for homosexuals, and where I live the prejudice against them is pretty bad.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Ditocoaf on Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:36 pm

This will sound weird, but I figure gay men are like women that you're not attracted to. You can be friends with them, but it would be awkward if they're attracted to you.

Anyway, I've heard differing views on what religion has to say about them. At my catholic school, I heard that since they should never marry, they are supposed to either live single for life, or become a priest and live their life for God. That's right, gays are supposed to become priests, because Catholic priests aren't supposed to marry. :roll:
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Snorri1234 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:36 pm

william18 wrote:
heavycola wrote:
william18 wrote:I don't mind gays if they're quiet, when the announce it with happiness then it's too far. I mean this year at my school a lady was walking her kid to school while wearing a gay pride hat. I felt sorry for that kid.


Yes, it's the loud happy gays you need to watch out for. The quiet miserable ones tend to be OK - at least you know they're suffering.


By quiet I don't mean secret life. It's ok for the homosexual to tell the people he wants but they shouldn't broadcast it. The world isn't ready for homosexuals, and where I live the prejudice against them is pretty bad.


The world is soooooooooooo ready for homosexuals. You don't watch MTV?
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Nobunaga on Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:55 pm

brooksieb wrote:Just a short topic here. I have no problems with homosexuals at all. However considering i am a Anglican, i don't believe gay people should have any part in church ruling though i do not mind any gay people in the church at all, i do not like gay people flaunting their' homosexuality. Because it is wrong to be gay in christianity i am trying to be as leniant as my religion takes me.

I will post my views as me as a christian soon, but i wanted to get this done first.


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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Grooveman2007 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:35 pm

Live and let live folks. It's that simple. Nobody of any race, sexuality or creed has any right to impose their lifestyle or beliefs on anyone else, or to discriminate on others who are different. You would have thought that the 20th century taught us those lessons, but evidently not. People are just too bigoted, intolerant, self-centered and otherwise asinine to rember history. Our mindset has allowed the past to slip into just that, the past. Not the potential future, not reasons to change our ways. Just sections in history books that our grandchildren will look back upon. Maybe some day in the not too distant future, visitors from beyond the stars will stumble upon the charred remains of our barbaric civilizations. Hopefully they will discover how we anihilated ourselves and learn from our mistakes so another tragedy can be avoided. Come on people, the alarm's been ringing for a while now, but we keep on hitting snooze.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Ditocoaf on Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:09 pm

Grooveman2007 wrote:Live and let live folks. It's that simple. Nobody of any race, sexuality or creed has any right to impose their lifestyle or beliefs on anyone else, or to discriminate on others who are different. You would have thought that the 20th century taught us those lessons, but evidently not. People are just too bigoted, intolerant, self-centered and otherwise asinine to rember history. Our mindset has allowed the past to slip into just that, the past. Not the potential future, not reasons to change our ways. Just sections in history books that our grandchildren will look back upon. Maybe some day in the not too distant future, visitors from beyond the stars will stumble upon the charred remains of our barbaric civilizations. Hopefully they will discover how we anihilated ourselves and learn from our mistakes so another tragedy can be avoided. Come on people, the alarm's been ringing for a while now, but we keep on hitting snooze.

But... if we allow men to fall in love with other men, the next step is being "tolerant" of Murder!!! Where will it end??!‽ At some point we have to draw the line for the Good of Society!!!!!!! Next we'll have people claiming that it's their "right" to kidnap my daughter and rape her because it's their "alternate lifestyle"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby Grooveman2007 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:32 pm

Ditocoaf wrote:
Grooveman2007 wrote:Live and let live folks. It's that simple. Nobody of any race, sexuality or creed has any right to impose their lifestyle or beliefs on anyone else, or to discriminate on others who are different. You would have thought that the 20th century taught us those lessons, but evidently not. People are just too bigoted, intolerant, self-centered and otherwise asinine to rember history. Our mindset has allowed the past to slip into just that, the past. Not the potential future, not reasons to change our ways. Just sections in history books that our grandchildren will look back upon. Maybe some day in the not too distant future, visitors from beyond the stars will stumble upon the charred remains of our barbaric civilizations. Hopefully they will discover how we anihilated ourselves and learn from our mistakes so another tragedy can be avoided. Come on people, the alarm's been ringing for a while now, but we keep on hitting snooze.

But... if we allow men to fall in love with other men, the next step is being "tolerant" of Murder!!! Where will it end??!‽ At some point we have to draw the line for the Good of Society!!!!!!! Next we'll have people claiming that it's their "right" to kidnap my daughter and rape her because it's their "alternate lifestyle"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Well a line would obviously be drawn somewhere, but your comparison of Homosexuals to Murder is ridiculous, nonsensical, and above all else, rather stupid.
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Re: My views on homosexuals

Postby william18 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:33 pm

Grooveman2007 wrote:Live and let live folks. It's that simple. Nobody of any race, sexuality or creed has any right to impose their lifestyle or beliefs on anyone else, or to discriminate on others who are different. You would have thought that the 20th century taught us those lessons, but evidently not. People are just too bigoted, intolerant, self-centered and otherwise asinine to rember history. Our mindset has allowed the past to slip into just that, the past. Not the potential future, not reasons to change our ways. Just sections in history books that our grandchildren will look back upon. Maybe some day in the not too distant future, visitors from beyond the stars will stumble upon the charred remains of our barbaric civilizations. Hopefully they will discover how we anihilated ourselves and learn from our mistakes so another tragedy can be avoided. Come on people, the alarm's been ringing for a while now, but we keep on hitting snooze.


I doubt this would happen from homosexuality.
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