Should Americans start stockpiling food?

by **DaGip** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:55 am

Should America start stockpiling food?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zyx4oKe ... re=related

by **HapSmo19** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:05 am

Ha, funny. I just bought 100lbs of rice and ten cases of canned goods yesterday. If I'm wrong, I'll be able to donate it to the homeless in 6 months. If I'm right, I need at least ten times that. Costco here I come.
Christmas has been cancelled.

by **Spuzzell** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:10 am

No. Most Americans can survive on their accumulated body fat for months, much like camels.

by **HapSmo19** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:21 am

Spuzzell wrote:No. Most Americans can survive on their accumulated body fat for months, much like camels.

True turkeyneck but, what if it goes on for years?

by **heavycola** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:43 pm

HapSmo19 wrote:
Spuzzell wrote:No. Most Americans can survive on their accumulated body fat for months, much like camels.

True turkeyneck but, what if it goes on for years?

then the obesity crisis will be solved.

by **DaGip** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:02 pm

heavycola wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:
Spuzzell wrote:No. Most Americans can survive on their accumulated body fat for months, much like camels.

True turkeyneck but, what if it goes on for years?

then the obesity crisis will be solved.

Thank GOD!

by **Grooveman2007** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:33 pm

Start? I just bought four sides of beef.

by **Pedronicus** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:03 pm

thats just a light lunch for your average American

by **Grooveman2007** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:39 pm

second breakfast, actually

by **DaGip** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:52 pm

This is what I bought today:

Two cans of DAK canned ham
One can Hormel Tamales
One jar Hormel White Chicken Chili
Two jars Bertolli's Spaghetti sauce
Large jar of Jiff brand Peanut Butter
Three cases of Raman noodles
six cans of campbell's sirloin soup
two cans of Pregresso New England Clam Chowder White
Two BIG cans of Dinty Moore stew
two large cans of sardines in tomato sauce
two cans of smoked oysters
two cans of Alaskan Salmon
two packs Charlie the Tuna
Giant ten pound bag of red potatoes
two boxes of precooked bacon
Huge bag of rice
Huge bag of beans
1 loaf of bread
2 big cans of Ravioli stuffed with meat

I think that was about it...I will have to reload next week. The video that I showed you guys, that guy is documenting his food prices every week for the same products to tell us how much stuff went up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Co8nv7ZGms

I like this guys videos, I am a subscriber.

by **PLAYER57832** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:01 pm

I haven't kept track weekly, but I do know that sale prices now are more than the regular prices were just 6 months ago on most things. (a few things, strangly enough have actually gone down). What concerns me more is that now I end up having to go to the manager for a refund about every other time I shop because the clerks "forget" to give me sale prices (supposedly automatic with our buyer card).

My response?

This year, 1/8 my yard went to veggies. Next year ... 1/2 my yard.
I bought a cow from a local farmer... and ordered one for next year.
I already know how to can, but need a pressure canner (if I want to do anything but fruit, a few other things).

I know where the best blueberries are in the forest ... and leeks ... and ....

My husband gets the venison, my son turkey, etc ....

My herbs are in the ground or in pots that come inside in the winter.

by **mpjh** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:05 pm

Sure, just like in the 50's so we can have stale crackers to munch on 20 years later.

Get real.

by **Grooveman2007** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:07 pm

Well, hunting season will be starting soon and I hope to get a pair of deer and some pheasants and ducks, so that should take care of meat for most of the winter. I grew potatos and beans in my yard this year along with a bit of corn, but that wont last very long. I got the beef I bought today from my butcher and I have some bread frozen in my basement but other than that I'm reliant on my supermarket.

by **PLAYER57832** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:07 pm

mpjh wrote:Sure, just like in the 50's so we can have stale crackers to munch on 20 years later.

Get real.

I think we are ...

by **PLAYER57832** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:10 pm

Grooveman2007 wrote:Well, hunting season will be starting soon and I hope to get a pair of deer and some pheasants and ducks, so that should take care of meat for most of the winter. I grew potatos and beans in my yard this year along with a bit of corn, but that wont last very long. I got the beef I bought today from my butcher and I have some bread frozen in my basement but other than that I'm reliant on my supermarket.

Deer management in our area has ensured that most here have empty freezers ... and dream of moving to Montana... enjoy!

(my husband is one of the few who still get at least one most years, at least one of the few who do it legally!)

by **Japs** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:17 pm

time to look for black market connections.....

by **mpjh** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:20 pm

OK, to stockpile meat you need either to freeze it or cure it. If the food supply becomes unreliable, electricity will also and fule supplies with wither, thus freezing it is not a reliable option.

Curing meat is a complicated process, and a misstep will result in rancid meat or food poisoning.

Growing vegetables requires a root cellar or lard to preserve over the winter, and this is only reliable in colder climates. Throughout the south and west, vegetables must be eaten fresh or preserved with chile. Of course there is always home canning, a process that regularly produced food poisoning in the past.

All these are lost skills in the urban world we have created for ourselves.

On the other hand, we could band together and organize food and shelter for ourselves in urban areas, where 90% of us live. We could call on the expertise of medical and nutritional personnel and organize food collection and preservation locally. In other words, we could rely on our collective efforts.

Those that run to the woods will not survive, except in a few cases. Most will die at the hands of locals, piss off at the invations of city folks, and those that remain will find themselves isolated and defenseless.

by **Grooveman2007** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:24 pm

mpjh wrote:OK, to stockpile meat you need either to freeze it or cure it. If the food supply becomes unreliable, electricity will also and fule supplies with wither, thus freezing it is not a reliable option.

Curing meat is a complicated process, and a misstep will result in rancid meat or food poisoning.

Growing vegetables requires a root cellar or lard to preserve over the winter, and this is only reliable in colder climates. Throughout the south and west, vegetables must be eaten fresh or preserved with chile. Of course there is always home canning, a process that regularly produced food poisoning in the past.

All these are lost skills in the urban world we have created for ourselves.

On the other hand, we could band together and organize food and shelter for ourselves in urban areas, where 90% of us live. We could call on the expertise of medical and nutritional personnel and organize food collection and preservation locally. In other words, we could rely on our collective efforts.

Those that run to the woods will not survive, except in a few cases. Most will die at the hands of locals, piss off at the invations of city folks, and those that remain will find themselves isolated and defenseless.

What are you talking about? This is about saving a few bucks, not surviving nuclear holocaust.

by **Japs** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:26 pm

Ill contradict you. I like to hunt, grow my own vegetables, know how to salt food(preserving),and know how to can.

by **mpjh** on Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:27 pm

Good for you.

by **b.k. barunt** on Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:49 am

I'm just buying ammo.

Honibaz

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:04 am

Big pack of steaks....$40

Large bag of rice.... $25

b.k. barunt wrote:I'm just buying ammo.

...Priceless 8-)

by **heavycola** on Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:34 am

mpjh wrote:
On the other hand, we could band together and organize food and shelter for ourselves in urban areas, where 90% of us live. We could call on the expertise of medical and nutritional personnel and organize food collection and preservation locally. In other words, we could rely on our collective efforts.

Yes! We could call it... a city!

by **comic boy** on Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:41 am

Dont worry about meat as there will be a constant supply of fresh corpses at the bottom of tall buildings, anyway food is a secondary concern behind more guns and bibles :lol:

by **Juan_Bottom** on Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:02 am

I'm with Player. I get a cow every fall (used to get a pig but geez $$$), I'm looking at getting a pressure canner this winter too. My yard isn't that big, but it's big enough for a victory garden. Plus I live out in the country, so I have a thousand other options. Though my bogus step dad cut down my raspberry bushes before my mother gave him the boot. But I recommend getting grandfather/heritage seeds. The power hour had giant multi-packs of grandfather seeds at one point in time.... Now for $80 you get half of what you once did. But you'll never have to buy seeds again... so you pretty much have to pay it. So long as you plan on continuing the garden.
Unfortunitly counting the sea, humans are eating more food than the we are producing. And if the UN is correct, it'll be untill at least 2010 before we can start to remidy that... so doing anything is helpful.
Not to mention just growing your own herbs and spices is better for your health(insert weed joke). Most spices and a few herbs are radiated, and during this curing process they lose a bit of their helpful properties. Not much mind you, but there is a difference.
Country folk can survive!