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static_ice wrote:My personal favorite among the series is Elric (because its the only one I read, and it seems to be everyone else's favorite). That's one badass albino with strengths and problems. The sixth book (last in the series) was incredible, as the author focused more on plot and symbolism rather than fantasy-action (<--which is what makes the first 5 books so awesome).
CrazyAnglican wrote:static_ice wrote:My personal favorite among the series is Elric (because its the only one I read, and it seems to be everyone else's favorite). That's one badass albino with strengths and problems. The sixth book (last in the series) was incredible, as the author focused more on plot and symbolism rather than fantasy-action (<--which is what makes the first 5 books so awesome).
I liked Elric as well. The books themselves are quick, you can read one in an afternoon. I was intrigued by Elric's slip into becoming an anti-hero. Stormbringer is cool as well. It's the thing that gives him strength, but it is also having a negative effect on him psychologically. There are some surprisingly deep themes in this series of short fantasy novels. Some great gratutitous violence too!
heavycola wrote:qeee1 wrote:btownmeggy wrote:qeee1 wrote:I think Catcher speaks a certain truth, that has not found such beautiful or genuine expression anywhere else in literature, and to dismiss it because the main character is too angsty is a great tragedy. It's like dismissing Don Quixote for being too detatched from reality. Salinger's other works are also great, but Catcher is truly his master piece.
The angstyness is not my main gripe with Catcher in the Rye. I DON'T find Holden relateable, likeable, or even compelling. He's not written as a character whose distance from the reader improves the story. It seems to me that he's meant to resonate within you, withstanding his foibles and goofs, but he certainly does not resonate within me.
if you can't relate to holden in any sense, then I guess you're not going to like the book, but if you can't relate to Holden, I dunno, that reflects badly upon you in my opinion. Em yeah, hate me or dismiss me for saying that if you like, but it's what I think.
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LOL i thought the anti-CITR sentiment would be controversial
btownmeggy wrote:*shrug* If disliking a sexist, classist, egotistical brat of a fictional character means I'm a bad person, I guess that's just something I'll have to learn live with.
Frigidus wrote:but now that it's become relatively popular it's suffered the usual downturn in coolness.
qwert wrote:Can i ask you something?What is porpose for you to open these Political topic in ConquerClub? Why you mix politic with Risk? Why you not open topic like HOT AND SEXY,or something like that.
qeee1 wrote:btownmeggy wrote:*shrug* If disliking a sexist, classist, egotistical brat of a fictional character means I'm a bad person, I guess that's just something I'll have to learn live with.
You've rather missed the point in your description there, but so be it.
Besides I didn't call you a bad person, I just said that failing to relate to Holden at all reflects badly on you.
heavycola wrote:qeee1 wrote:btownmeggy wrote:*shrug* If disliking a sexist, classist, egotistical brat of a fictional character means I'm a bad person, I guess that's just something I'll have to learn live with.
You've rather missed the point in your description there, but so be it.
Besides I didn't call you a bad person, I just said that failing to relate to Holden at all reflects badly on you.
Come on man, I loved the book too, and i don't share btwonmeggy's opinions, but it's refreshing to hear from someone who doesn't "identify with holden soooo much", which is how most conversations about CITR seem to go (not that I have had one in over a decade, well except this post). I met someone at a party the other day who doesn't like Fawlty Towers. I nearly kissed him.
The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen and The Line of Beauty by Alan Hollinghurst are the two best novels I have read recently.
Favourites of all time are probably London Fields by Martin Amis, Moby Dick, The Grapes of Wrath and Lucky Jim.
Frigidus wrote:but now that it's become relatively popular it's suffered the usual downturn in coolness.
Aries wrote:Right now I'm reading the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Trilogy (of 5 books lol). I'ts freakin' hilariousI don't know if you've seen the movie but the book is about 20 times funnier.
Mylittlepuddykat wrote:My favourite books /series .... I am 14 tho an like some light reads! (childrens books) so I put a * by them lol I do think they are refeshing tho and Charlotte Sometimes is a good read if a little simple.
Bartimeus Trilogy
Harry Potter
Wind on Fire
Apocalypse
Thief Lord by Cornelia Fudge
Warrior Series* by Erin Hunter
Chalet School*
Charlotte Sometimes*
The Magical Maze by Ian Stewart
The Bronze Bow by Elizabeth Speare
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